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[RatedRRachel]

Full support!!!

A thousand voices, a single dream...

[Emptypockets319]

I support this, keep it going.

[goose2989]

 I absolutely support this threat. I genuinely hope more users on the BSN use this. And I encourage everyone to add the link to this thread on your signature box. Delete something else if you need too; this thread it too darn important.

[Scitenik]

Definitely support this. You worded it all far more eloquently than I ever could.

[RubiconI7]

We fully respect that some liked the endings.

I just can't emphasize enough that what we are calling for here is that we at least want the ending clarified, there are so much confusion around it, if we harness the confusion it can kill a Reaper.

[deathscythe517]

I officially endorse this thread not that my endorsement means a damn thing, still though, I'm going to sight this in every single one of those bloody 'you're just ****ing because it's not happy' topics. Hell, I kind of wish we could have this replace the megathread since it's got a much better opener.

[LazarusMP]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Also, my major grievance with the ending isn't mentioned here. As I've been telling anyone who'll listen, Commander Shepard is essentially the personification of defiance. He scoffs at the mere notion of laying down and dying when confronted by Sovereign on Virmire and then proceeds to blow Sovereign from the sky.

He dies and is resurected and, instead of spending the remainder of his years getting over PTSD from the event, he picks up his gun and destroys the Reapers' minions the Collectors. He's threatened time and again by mercs, The Shadow Broker, and the Reapers' forces and he simply refuses to give up and refuses to see any other option than fighting with every fiber of his being.

On the asteroid plummeting for the Alpha Relay he tells Harbinger what he intends to do: "Maybe we can't win this. But we will fight you regardless."

Throughout ME3 Shepard is told peace between the Turians and Krogan is impossible and he proves the naysayers wrong. He singlehandedly ends a 300 year old war and forms an alliance with a race of synthetic beings in spite of every claim that it was impossible.

When shown defeat at the hands of Kai Leng on Thessia, Shepard rallies and devastates Cerberus in their base of operations. He refuses to allow a rogue human group compromise his plans.

Finally, when he almost reaches the conduit that leads to the Citadel, he is nearly killed by a Reaper but he defiantly forces himself on.

Everything Shepard has done in 3 games has been in direct defiance of the Reapers. He doesn't pale at the sight of their fleets, he doesn't tire in his effort to stop their inexorable march across the galaxy, he fights and fights until he is at the brink of defeating them.

And then he accepts the Guardian's false dilemma as his only options, ignoring all other possibilities right when it matters.

That is what bothers me about this ending. Not the fact that there is very little difference between endings, not the fact that there are plot holes, not the fact that it's dark and Shepard dies/is separated from his crew, and not the fact that all Dextro DNA species in orbit around Earth would die of starvation.

My Shepard fights until he dies, and Bioware's gave up right when it mattered most.

So much this. Shepard does not give up. Ever. She keeps on fighting through whatever the odds. She argues with anyone and anything to defend what's right. And yet right there at the end of everything... She gives up and gives in. That's just not right.

Modifié par LazarusMP, 13 mars 2012 - 07:11 .

[Dorko525]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Also, my major grievance with the ending isn't mentioned here. As I've been telling anyone who'll listen, Commander Shepard is essentially the personification of defiance. He scoffs at the mere notion of laying down and dying when confronted by Sovereign on Virmire and then proceeds to blow Sovereign from the sky.

He dies and is resurected and, instead of spending the remainder of his years getting over PTSD from the event, he picks up his gun and destroys the Reapers' minions the Collectors. He's threatened time and again by mercs, The Shadow Broker, and the Reapers' forces and he simply refuses to give up and refuses to see any other option than fighting with every fiber of his being.

On the asteroid plummeting for the Alpha Relay he tells Harbinger what he intends to do: "Maybe we can't win this. But we will fight you regardless."

Throughout ME3 Shepard is told peace between the Turians and Krogan is impossible and he proves the naysayers wrong. He singlehandedly ends a 300 year old war and forms an alliance with a race of synthetic beings in spite of every claim that it was impossible.

When shown defeat at the hands of Kai Leng on Thessia, Shepard rallies and devastates Cerberus in their base of operations. He refuses to allow a rogue human group compromise his plans.

Finally, when he almost reaches the conduit that leads to the Citadel, he is nearly killed by a Reaper but he defiantly forces himself on.

Everything Shepard has done in 3 games has been in direct defiance of the Reapers. He doesn't pale at the sight of their fleets, he doesn't tire in his effort to stop their inexorable march across the galaxy, he fights and fights until he is at the brink of defeating them.

And then he accepts the Guardian's false dilemma as his only options, ignoring all other possibilities right when it matters.

That is what bothers me about this ending. Not the fact that there is very little difference between endings, not the fact that there are plot holes, not the fact that it's dark and Shepard dies/is separated from his crew, and not the fact that all Dextro DNA species in orbit around Earth would die of starvation.

My Shepard fights until he dies, and Bioware's gave up right when it mattered most.

I couldn't have said it any better

[cinderburster]

Signal boosting.

EDITING TO ADD:

If the theory I've seen on YouTube is true and Shep dreamed the last portion of the game, DLC to explain what ACTUALLY HAPPENED.  If the theory isn't true, gdi Bioware I defend you all over the place.  Stop making me regret that.

Modifié par cinderburster, 13 mars 2012 - 07:16 .

[brp1410]

Regarding “wildly divergent endings”, they lied to make money, they did it with Dragon Age 2 saying the DA franchise was a "spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate," and now EAWare has suckered us into it again with promises of seeing the story end in various way and going on about how decisions matter.

Where do we go from here?

Story can take place before the reaper arc, there's plenty of lore, none as compelling but enough to make several games.

I'll throw in my support with the rest but I won't hold my breath for DLC with more endings, especially one for free, and I, like many others I'm sure, will not pay for it, no matter how much closure is provided.

Modifié par brp1410, 13 mars 2012 - 07:12 .

[xcomcmdr]

Bump to hold the line.

[RubiconI7]

I just want to rant about he ending being so un-Shepherd like. The resounding theme throughout is that we can hope and have faith in each-other.

The entire premise of the three choices are based on that no matter what we do the creator and the created cannot co-exist...I find that mind-boggling-ly incomprehensible.

Back in the 18th century, black men were slaves, white men didn't even allow them to eat at the same table. Now? We have a black man in the white-house. Yes, we paid for it with blood, but we learned! That's how we "organics" function. We (more or less) learn from our mistakes! The wizard child takes that away from us...that makes me sadface

Modifié par RubiconI7, 13 mars 2012 - 07:17 .

[hector7rau]

I absolutely support this thread.
I was Commander Shepard and if i didn't sacrifice myself because i chose the blue color this would be my favorite thread on the BSN!!!

[Tequila Man]

I will forever bump this.

Holding the line.

[cinderburster]

RubiconI7 wrote...

I just want to rant about he ending being so un-Shepherd like. The resounding theme throughout is that we can hope and have faith in each-other.

The entire premise of the three choices are based on that no matter what we do the creator and the created cannot co-exist...I find that mind-boggling-ly incomprehensible.

Back in the 18th century, black men were slaves, white men didn't even allow them to eat at the same table. Now? We have a black man in the white-house. Yes, we paid for it with blood, but we learned! That's how we "organics" function. We (more or less) learn from our mistakes! The wizard child takes that away from us...that makes me sadface

Agreed.  I got the Geth and the Quarians to cooperate.  Why the hell couldn't Shep at least say to the kid "well hold on a tick, synthetics and organics CAN coexist, they're doing it right NOW.  JUST MAYBE your people were wrong and this cycle got it right.  Ta-DAH."  

...Because even wounded my Shep would be snarky about it.

[goose2989]

Scitenik wrote...

Definitely support this. You worded it all far more eloquently than I ever could.

But you can spell eloquent, ha!

[twhunter]

For those of you who may not have come across this yet take two minutes to read this. It has been getting a ton of attention and would make an incredible ending that would display all of your hard choices and give Shepard back a voice. WHICH IS ALL MOST PEOPLE ARE REALLY ASKING FOR. Best part is that BioWare might actually go for it since they wouldn't be required to rewrite EVERYTHING. Could it use a few adjustments, sure...but as a jumping off point....YES PLEASE!! It seriously can pull at the heart strings and make you FEEL something again, other than disappointment. Don't just take my word for it read it yourself....

http://arkis.deviant...dings-SPOILERS-
289902125?moodonly=1#/

someone even started a thread on here in support of it:
http://social.biowar...index/9833130/1

I came across another thread that is "on fire" with a very similar concept just not in the script format that Arkis wrote, it includes a poll:
http://social.biowar...72/polls/29101/

Lastly, for those who haven't joined up yet and want to support this "movement" join up at:
http://www.facebook....ngToMassEffect3

~Proud #retakemasseffect supporter

[Aedan276]

I can endorse this. 

[cinderburster]

Since we're linking things, this video was interesting and points out a couple things that make a kind of logical sense out of the endings. I'm going with this for my head-canon if Bioware declines to change them:

Note:
--Illusive Man makes the Paragon choice (arguably, I.M. is not entirely evil and exists in a morally grey area.)
--Anderson makes the Renegade choice (again, it could be argued that he made that decision because, as I.M. said, he's a soldier that only sees down the barrel of his gun.)
--Readiness above 5k, as I understand it, and making the Renegade choice gets you the fragment of ending shown in the video, where Shepard wakes up with a gasp.

Not perfect. I'd still prefer to see an ending that actually takes my decisions into account. But better than nothing, even if it hasn't officially been stated that this theory is correct.

[goose2989]

Keep spreading the word on this thread, people

[CDRSkyShepard]

Okay, I'm going to bed for real this time. XD I won't be checking back in on this thread until I wake up.

If you need anything from me, shoot me a PM. Good night, good people!

[HighSpecter]

Great Thread! You definitely have my support.

[B.Shep]

I endorse your words too CDRSkyShepard.

Holding the line...

[HeavenStar]

I support this. Additional endings for ME3!