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[CDRSkyShepard]

Cupcakes? CUPCAKES!

Red, Blue, and Green frosted cupcakes for the devs!

I thought this was ingenious, so I had to share. Hold the line, people! *Runs off to do other things*

[Paparob]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Cupcakes? CUPCAKES!

Red, Blue, and Green frosted cupcakes for the devs!

I thought this was ingenious, so I had to share. Hold the line, people! *Runs off to do other things*

Damn it! How did I miss this?

[Reptilian Rob]

*Hugs thread*

[Apathy1989]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Cupcakes? CUPCAKES!

Red, Blue, and Green frosted cupcakes for the devs!

I thought this was ingenious, so I had to share. Hold the line, people! *Runs off to do other things*

Amazing.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Oh, and thanks to Reptilian Rob for the heads up on this little gem:

"*Fill in the blank* deserves a better ending" banners!

I'll be adding this to the OP toute de suite.

[Reptilian Rob]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Oh, and thanks to Reptilian Rob for the heads up on this little gem:

"*Fill in the blank* deserves a better ending" banners!

I'll be adding this to the OP toute de suite.

I PMed him because some of the banners are missing! Hopefully he can get this awesome back up and running!

[CDRSkyShepard]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Oh, and thanks to Reptilian Rob for the heads up on this little gem:

"*Fill in the blank* deserves a better ending" banners!

I'll be adding this to the OP toute de suite.

I PMed him because some of the banners are missing! Hopefully he can get this awesome back up and running!

I linked tot he photobucket ones in the OP. They're all working there!

[Reptilian Rob]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Oh, and thanks to Reptilian Rob for the heads up on this little gem:

"*Fill in the blank* deserves a better ending" banners!

I'll be adding this to the OP toute de suite.

I PMed him because some of the banners are missing! Hopefully he can get this awesome back up and running!

I linked tot he photobucket ones in the OP. They're all working there!

Sweet!

[Taboo]

We need that Marauder Shields cake.

[Daruwind]

Hold the Line!:-)

[CDRSkyShepard]

I've added the Cupcake Campaign to the War Assets section! So awesome. Lol.

[LittleTito]

This thread must be bumped for righteousness!

Hold the line!

[DrowNoble]

A poster on G4 said it best:

T_Dawg135

Two things. First, Dr. Muzyka's post does not claim that they will be changing the ending. What he said is that the endings "will help answer the questions, (and) provide(ing) more clarity". Further tweets from the Mass Effect twitter account have also stated that the endings will not be changed. This is, of course, not what the Retake Mass Effect movement is after. For starters, there isn't any plausible way to answer our questions without completely changing the ending.

Second, to answer your question of "how does this affect the idea of games as an art form?", it doesn't. Video games are not some painting that the artist did and then hung in a gallery somewhere. This is a commercial endeavor. Making your customers happy is GOOD for business. Besides, not only have games like InFamous 2 "caved" to pressure from fans and made artistic changes (albeit before release) receiving praise from people on G4TV.com, but Bioware has always said that they are actively looking at fan responses. Entire portions of DLC have been created due to fan response in the past. Why is taking fan feedback into concern now somehow "violating" their artistic integrity, when that's the same thing they've been doing all along?

Remember people: HOLD THE LINE

[Sanrei]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Cupcakes? CUPCAKES!

Red, Blue, and Green frosted cupcakes for the devs!

I thought this was ingenious, so I had to share. Hold the line, people! *Runs off to do other things*

My favorite part was where they all taste like vanilla.

[Seph0n]

"This is Commander Shepard, and this is my favourite thread on the Citadel."

[Lupus Canivus]

Great thread!




Hold the line!

[Moirai]

I've just posted the following as a example, for me, of player reward and satisfaction:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10690077

I would be interested in peoples thoughts.

[MarcusFrost88]

Xero Reynolds offered an insightful (and balanced) four-part critique of the end of Mass Effect 3 on his blog "The Clockwork Geek." He touches on key issues that plague the final moments of the game, including the abandonment of thematic, tonal and narrative consistency. In his own words:

"The ending to ME3 was a GOOD ending. ME3 is a FANTASTIC game. The problem is that, when taken as a whole, the ending is an oversized titanium-coated square peg that's suddenly, and unnecessarily, forced into a tinier, rounder hole made of a completely different material." (Mass Effect 3: The Greatest Game I've Ever Hated Part 1)

"This is Mass Effect, not Inception. The finale should be at least concise enough to let us sit back and enjoy it. If there are any lingering questions, NONE of them should ever be 'wait, was that real or not?' . . . Mass Effect delivered a Sci-Fi war epic, not an allegory or a metaphor or strange thought experiment, so why does the ending need to? It doesn't." (Mass Effect 3: The Greatest Game I've Ever Hated Part 2)

"If I had to peg down thematic elements, again as they were conveyed and as I understood them, it would run like this: ME1 is about discovery, willpower, and perseverance. ME2 is about Morality, Hard Choices, and Standing Up for a Belief. ME3 is about Faith (more references to faith, spiritual and abstract then any of the previous titles) Hope (same) and True Unity. Threaded throughout it all . . . is the idea that the cycle has always been about the ultimate in Darwin's handbook: the weak will be conquered by the strong . . . What we had as a message, in Shepard, is that there is this one hero-this iconoclast with an omni-tool, that stood AGAINST that bleak cycle . . . Renegade, Paragon, altruism or revenge- it doesn't matter. In Shepard we have the message of “enough is enough. I will fight against this. The galaxy is not ruled by the law of the jungle”. When the ultimate expression of that defiance is finally reached, the message is utterly ignored. We're told that it's not even a matter of the Reapers being higher on the food chain. We're told that they're simply a widget in a greater construction that has one purpose, and one purpose only: Spring Cleaning the Galaxy, so the synthetics don't get uppity." (Mass Effect 3: The Greatest Game I've Ever Hated Part 3)

"No matter what angle I approach it from . . . the Catalyst thing is an unnecessary sledgehammer taken to the otherwise beautiful sculpture that is the MEU's mythology. It's paradoxical, it's random in the implementation, it's cryptic in its reasoning, and it's completely nonsensical against the established lore." (Mass Effect 3: The Greatest Game I've Ever Hated Part 3)

It's definitely worth a read (see links below)

Mass Effect 3: The Greatest Game I've Ever Hated Part 1
Mass Effect 3: The Greatest Game I've Ever Hated Part 2
Mass Effect 3: The Greatest Game I've Ever Hated Part 3
Mass Effect 3: The Greatest Game I've Ever Hated Part 4

*Edited 10:50 PM 03/27/12*

Modifié par MarcusFrost88, 28 mars 2012 - 02:52 .

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

Essentially the only thing the ending does is resolve the plot (we stopped the Reapers!). There's no closure on what happens to any of the characters or even to the entire galaxy for that matter since the destruction of the relays is a very drastic change all of a sudden.

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

I noticed that this is not located in the OP:
Daniel Kahneman: The riddle of experience vs. memory

Using examples from vacations to colonoscopies, Nobel laureate and founder of behavioral economics Daniel Kahneman reveals how our "experiencing selves" and our "remembering selves" perceive happiness differently. This new insight has profound implications for economics, public policy -- and our own self-awareness.

Widely regarded as the world's most influential living psychologist, Daniel Kahneman won the Nobel in Economics for his pioneering work in behavioral economics -- exploring the irrational ways we make decisions about risk. Full bio »

"We don’t choose between experiences, we choose between memories of experiences. Even when we think about the future, we don’t think of our future normally as experiences. We think of our future as anticipated memories.” (Daniel Kahneman)"

[txmn1016]

How on earth have I been missing out on this thread??? Anywho, great work!

Bump for being amazing.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Thanks for all the tips, guys!

That Nobel laureate one I've seen before, and it's for sure going into the OP this weekend. OH WHY does holding the line have to come AFTER homework??? WHY??? Lol.

The rest of the thread overhaul will have to wait for the weekend, but it'll be awesome, I promise. ;D

Keep holding the line, people!

[Norrax]

good post OP. holding the line.

[Apathy1989]

Mighty_BOB_cnc wrote...

Essentially the only thing the ending does is resolve the plot (we stopped the Reapers!). There's no closure on what happens to any of the characters or even to the entire galaxy for that matter since the destruction of the relays is a very drastic change all of a sudden.

Yeah some long blog post basically said "The reaper plot is over, but no one cared about the plot - we care about the characters".

ME3s ending is terrible in this regard, you are presented with 3 options:
A) Red explosion. You die. EDI and Geth die. Mass effect gates die. All fleets stuck and likely to die. Normandy with crew magically lost.
Blue explosion. You die. Mass effect gates die. All fleets stuck and likely to die. Normandy with crew magically lost.
Green explosion. You die. Mass effect gates die. All fleets stuck and likely to die. Normandy with crew magically lost. All racial diversity celebrated in series lost.


What we were expecting
A) Reapers win. Everyone dies. Epilogue of harbinger taunting the player.
Shepard wins through sacrifice of himself or friends. Fleet suffers heavy losses. Epilogue of characters morning his death, or death of friends.
C) Shepard survives. Fleet suffers some losses. Epilogue of characters celebrating while remembering the lost.

[Apatche69]

Bookmarked so I can share this with others. Nice compilation OP