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[clarkusdarkus]

sad to read but important to digest. bump

[Sanrei]

bump.

[Sanrei]

Another little comic about what the ending did to many of the fans. And a bump.

This thread was of great help to me when I first stumbled into these forums, distraught and looking for answers. Hopefully it can help others too.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Yougottawanna wrote...

If you're looking for even more videos, the guy that made the video review of the ending (me) made a video about the indoctrination theory, and it's here: www.youtube.com/watch

Now I've got both of them up, including the one you just linked. Thank you! So glad you've found my thread. I really liked both videos, they are a great contribution to the effort!

Edit: I have updated the Articles section with all the articles and tips I've been given so far. If I run into any more, I'll add them, too.

I have the content for the Grievances section done now, but it's still in my backup Google doc. I'll get it transferred over tomorrow.

Oh, and I have a new battle cry:

"Semper vigilans, semper fidelis, serviam." ("Always vigilant, always faithful, I will serve.")

Hold the line!

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 04 avril 2012 - 01:22 .

[Sybafairy]

Bumpity Bump

[CDRSkyShepard]

Lookit!

Kotaku: Mass Effect 3's Ending Disrespects Its Most Invested Players

Funny part? I'm friends with Chris Priestly on Facebook, and he "likes" this article. Hm...

[Sanrei]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Lookit!

Kotaku: Mass Effect 3's Ending Disrespects Its Most Invested Players

Funny part? I'm friends with Chris Priestly on Facebook, and he "likes" this article. Hm...

Yeah?

Ooh, this past month has been a rollercoaster, it has.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Oh herro there...

International Business Times: "Mass Effect 3" Ending: Did Fan Protests Cause EA Stock Price To Drop?

Thanks to Reptilian Rob for this.

[CDRSkyShepard]

The first "blue" Forbes article I've seen:

Forbes: Mass Effect, Web Campaigns and the Five Stages of Bereapment

Great analysis, definitely read this one.

[Reptilian Rob]

Bump.

[Ticondurus]

Just want to mention that a lot of people complained (including me) that BW didn't show our war assets in action at the end: Hello, RACHNI QUEEN, I'm looking at you. Or Jack and her biotic squad, etc.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Ticondurus wrote...

Just want to mention that a lot of people complained (including me) that BW didn't show our war assets in action at the end: Hello, RACHNI QUEEN, I'm looking at you. Or Jack and her biotic squad, etc.

I'm including that in my massive edit. I'm quite perturbed that didn't show up, either.

[UniqueName001]

First of all, thank you for compiling all of these.

I have to say I'm not sure I consider the Rock Paper Shotgun article as a "green". He states that he thinks the endings are a bad, but then goes on to say why people who want the endings changed are wrong.

I do love the part where he goes through the four points I put on the charity drive petition and says "This is true, but if you ignore something significant, it's not true anymore, so ha ha!".

Does not provide the wide range of possible outcomes that we have come to expect from a Mass Effect game

For the actual endings, this is largely true. The endings consist of three different coloured explosions, with the main variance being a couple of seconds of extra animation.

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Ignoring that lapse though, Mass Effect 3 offers more than enough variation for any story-driven RPG to be proud of, and nothing has come close to making years old decisions still feel relevant in the finale.

So, yes, if you ignore the ending, it's a great game. Yes, we agree. But I am not willing to ignore the ending.

Does not provide a sense of closure with regard to the universe and characters we have become attached to

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As for all this being ruined by the destruction of the Mass Relay network… well, it’s science fiction. There’s always a new way to fly, up to and doing it the old fashioned way and simply having it take much, much longer. The universe is still out there, just less convenient.

Well, sure, if you ignore, like he does, the whole Normandy fleeing thing.

And, incidentally, ignore the entire Stargazer sequence which makes it pretty clear that space travel is very restricted if not entirely absent in the future.

Does not provide a sense of succeeding against impossible odds

Up to that point, the only reason to think of the Reapers as anything
other than an unstoppable threat is that this is a game, and you’re
Commander Shepard.

Oh, and here I thought we were playing a game.  Sure, if you decide the game should be unwinnable, his argument makes sense.  But in a game, people strangely expect to be able to win.

Does not provide an explanation of events up to the ending which maintains consistency with the overall story

Yet again, this only really affects the Catalyst nonsense – which,
yes, is foreshadowed earlier in the game, but not to the point that it
matters – and to some extent why the Reapers are focusing on London.
Remove that stupid plot point and everything else becomes much stronger.

Yes, if you remove the catalyst, the game does make a lot more sense... which is pretty much exactly what we are arguing.

Sorry, had to get that off my chest It's not much of a rebuttal if you have to agree with everything that is said and then change the rules to be able to claim it's wrong.

Modifié par UniqueName001, 04 avril 2012 - 04:41 .

[Ticondurus]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Ticondurus wrote...

Just want to mention that a lot of people complained (including me) that BW didn't show our war assets in action at the end: Hello, RACHNI QUEEN, I'm looking at you. Or Jack and her biotic squad, etc.

I'm including that in my massive edit. I'm quite perturbed that didn't show up, either.

Great, thanks!  Terrific list, btw.

[Liber320]

This should be added to the OP somewhere

http://social.biowar...ndex/10473356/1

Another thread compiling all the unfufilled promises the devs made, organised into pre-gold and post-gold

[CDRSkyShepard]

@UniqueName001 - Good to see you in here! I think the Rock, Paper, Shotgun article was the one I wasn't sure if I should label it red or green...it's an odd one. Your rant is very welcome. I enjoyed reading your post and agree wholeheartedly with every point you made.

@Liber320 - This looks good, but I'm wary of the thread title. The mods are coming down hard on anything saying "PR" or "false advertising." Looks like this thread is going well, and if it continues to do so, I'll add it. I just don't want the mods to have any reason at all to shut this thread down. Right now, it's a delicate balancing act.

@Everyone - Again, thanks for the kind words! It motivates me! Well, the haters do, too...one of my favorite sayings is, "I love my haters. They motivate me." Lol!

[Liber320]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

@Liber320 - This looks good, but I'm wary of the thread title. The mods are coming down hard on anything saying "PR" or "false advertising." Looks like this thread is going well, and if it continues to do so, I'll add it. I just don't want the mods to have any reason at all to shut this thread down. Right now, it's a delicate balancing act.

Fair enough.

If it makes a difference, a mod appearently gave the OP of that thread permission to create it and commented in the thread that as long as everyone stayed civil, there wouldn't be a problem.

Modifié par Liber320, 04 avril 2012 - 05:55 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

Liber320 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

@Liber320 - This looks good, but I'm wary of the thread title. The mods are coming down hard on anything saying "PR" or "false advertising." Looks like this thread is going well, and if it continues to do so, I'll add it. I just don't want the mods to have any reason at all to shut this thread down. Right now, it's a delicate balancing act.

Fair enough.

If it makes a difference, a mod appearently gave the OP of that thread permission to create it and commented in the thread that as long as everyone stayed civil, there wouldn't be a problem.

Yeah, I saw that, that's why I'm gonna think on it. I just don't want the mods to go on a thread-killing spree like they did a couple weeks ago, see something like that, them BAM! Lol. But I will keep an eye on it, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

[MikeC99]

^^

[Apathy1989]

 Someone made an alternate ending which was quite good I thought.

Read comment on it, last few seconds turn it bittersweet. He thinks high EMS, stop before then. Lower then you get the sadder ending.

Link

[Plummy]

test

[sammysoso]

 Another Gamefront article to add-

http://www.gamefront...n-get-it-right/ 

[Apathy1989]

sammysoso wrote...

 Another Gamefront article to add-

http://www.gamefront...n-get-it-right/ 

Good article. Forums are still so angry because we are all scared of what 'clarification' and 'closure' means. <_<

[SpeedDevil89]

Quick bump