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[Sanrei]

Destructiod article on why Bioware should change the ending.

Most of the people commenting on the article leave something to be desired... yeesh.

Modifié par PedEgg, 13 avril 2012 - 08:45 .

[Ieldra]

PedEgg wrote...
Destructiod article on why Bioware should change the ending.

Most of the people commenting on the article leave something to be desired... yeesh.

Interesting article, though admittedly these points had been covered before. Still good the topic doesn't die down because it keeps the pressure up.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Hey guys! Wanted to let you know I've been lurking since I made my big edit. I'm probably not going to be touching the OP again until Sunday, so hang tight. I know I've gotten several requests for fan analyses to be put in, so I'll be taking care of those this weekend.

I also found that Destructoid article, PedEgg, I really like it. I'll probably put that in real quick tomorrow after I'm done with class. Comments sections are usually overwhelmingly in favor of us, so I'm not worried about that. Lol. I also like how many of the media outlets have changed their tune a bit regarding the endings, It's very interesting to see the trends...I'm glad I started collecting articles when I did.

I am also bouncing around ideas in my head regarding a section to address the Extended Cut DLC. I'll let you guys know when I put something in the OP relating to it.

Hold the line!!!

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

I think people are being really weird about this.

also the relays dont explode in the control ending someone who picks blue would never think that they did you're only saying that because you've seen the other endings where the scene is longer. Bioware wanted the relays to survive in blue but they were under the wire and had to make the ending as cheaply as possible because EA wasnt gonna let them delay it till summer because thats a dead zone according to earnings reports and paperwork and file cabinets and three letter word documents that guys in ties put into piles to give to guys to put into other piles in a cubicle thats what gaming is now just abunch of office management databases. 

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 13 avril 2012 - 10:04 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

I think people are being really weird about this.

also the relays dont explode in the control ending someone who picks blue would never think that they did you're only saying that because you've seen the other endings where the scene is longer. Bioware wanted the relays to survive in blue but they were under the wire and had to make the ending as cheaply as possible because EA wasnt gonna let them delay it till summer because thats a dead zone according to earnings reports and paperwork and file cabinets and three letter word documents that guys in ties put into piles to give to guys to put into other piles in a cubicle thats what gaming is now just abunch of office management databases. 

That has never been officially confirmed, it's all speculation at this point.

Then again, according to Mac Walters, speculation at the end is a good thing.

[Reptilian Rob]

Bump!

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

That has never been officially confirmed, it's all speculation at this point.

Then again, according to Mac Walters, speculation at the end is a good thing.

I'm pretty sure mac walters has confirmed the relays surviving in control.

Anyways what you said can be taken and turned the other way.  Its speculation that the relays are destroyed in blue.  The only reason you'd think the relays explode is because it happens in the other endings.  So that only applies to people who have seen the other endings.

Anyways I really think it was budgetary concerns that lead to this misunderstanding of the end result. 

[CDRSkyShepard]

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

That has never been officially confirmed, it's all speculation at this point.

Then again, according to Mac Walters, speculation at the end is a good thing.

I'm pretty sure mac walters has confirmed the relays surviving in control.

Anyways what you said can be taken and turned the other way.  Its speculation that the relays are destroyed in blue.  The only reason you'd think the relays explode is because it happens in the other endings.  So that only applies to people who have seen the other endings.

Anyways I really think it was budgetary concerns that lead to this misunderstanding of the end result. 

Mac also "confirmed" everyone on the Citadel dies on Twitter, but hints from the devs about the Extended Cut DLC debunk that claim. Also, StarChild definitively says, "Releasing the energy of the Crucible will end the cycle, but it will also destroy the mass relays." That means all the choices will destroy the relays, because all the choices will have to use the Crucible's energy to implement Shepard's choice.

I think budgetary reasons are probably also a huge contributing factor to why these endings are so similar and suck so much, but also probably a time crunch factor, too. That doesn't excuse their quality, though...because the rest of the game was pretty amazing. It just proves they can't be creative under pressure.

[Sanrei]

Bump.

[SpeedDevil89]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I think budgetary reasons are probably also a huge contributing factor to why these endings are so similar and suck so much, but also probably a time crunch factor, too. That doesn't excuse their quality, though...because the rest of the game was pretty amazing. It just proves they can't be creative under pressure.

I think I said it before at some point (if not here, then on another forum), but I would have been perfectly happy to wait a little while to play the game if it meant it would be perfect. Also, if that's the case, I find it rather hypocritical that they defend the artistic team's creative vision and artistic integrity when the ones they should be telling that to are the suits.

Edit: just dawned on me the word I was looking for

Modifié par SpeedDevil89, 14 avril 2012 - 11:51 .

[Sanrei]

They're using the bad fan reaction to the ending as clever marketing now.

[CDRSkyShepard]

PedEgg wrote...

They're using the bad fan reaction to the ending as clever marketing now.

Nice try, BioWare. That only works if people are reacting to it in a good way.

[CDRSkyShepard]

SpeedDevil89 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I think budgetary reasons are probably also a huge contributing factor to why these endings are so similar and suck so much, but also probably a time crunch factor, too. That doesn't excuse their quality, though...because the rest of the game was pretty amazing. It just proves they can't be creative under pressure.

I think I said it before at some point (if not here, then on another forum), but I would have been perfectly happy to wait a little while to play the game if it meant it would be perfect. Also, if that's the case, I find it rather hypocritical that they defend the artistic team's creative vision and artistic integrity when the ones they should be telling that to are the suits.

Edit: just dawned on me the word I was looking for

*Sigh* If only EA were willing to do the same. But no, they need their money NAO! XD

[usmack5]

This sums up the majority of my problems with the ending pretty well, although the abandoning of themes might have been my biggest issue with the ending, as well as the most obvious reason it doesn't make sense in context of the rest of the series at all.

[HurricaneGinger]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

SpeedDevil89 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I think budgetary reasons are probably also a huge contributing factor to why these endings are so similar and suck so much, but also probably a time crunch factor, too. That doesn't excuse their quality, though...because the rest of the game was pretty amazing. It just proves they can't be creative under pressure.

I think I said it before at some point (if not here, then on another forum), but I would have been perfectly happy to wait a little while to play the game if it meant it would be perfect. Also, if that's the case, I find it rather hypocritical that they defend the artistic team's creative vision and artistic integrity when the ones they should be telling that to are the suits.

Edit: just dawned on me the word I was looking for

*Sigh* If only EA were willing to do the same. But no, they need their money NAO! XD

YES. I would have been willing to wait too. I would have waited and donated my bottom dollar to their budget.

And the "artistic vision" excuse is getting old, in my opinion. It's only making them sound egotistical. :\\

[CDRSkyShepard]

Posting for great justice:

[jinxter69]

Bump and good article at Destructoid

[unoriginalname1133]

Good stuff. Hopefully they can still make this right

[Reptilian Rob]

unoriginalname1133 wrote...

Good stuff. Hopefully they can still make this right

LOL probably not.

[VibrantYacht]

Is the GameInformer cover story article on here? Everything in there ended up the literal opposite.
Apologies if it is... it's a large post.

Modifié par VibrantYacht, 15 avril 2012 - 02:54 .

[pikey1969]

Bump, because this is one of few threads on the front page that really warrants attention from the Devs, who I can only PRAY are still occasionally browsing here for fan feedbacks during this critical time (no VA being contacted yet means they're still on the drawing board for the EC patch).

[Reptilian Rob]

pikey1969 wrote...

Bump, because this is one of few threads on the front page that really warrants attention from the Devs, who I can only PRAY are still occasionally browsing here for fan feedbacks during this critical time (no VA being contacted yet means they're still on the drawing board for the EC patch).

I think the ME team is long gone from the forums.

The only devs that are here are the DA team.

[Jagri]

I am sure ME team is quite busy at the moment. That the DA guys are trying keep things cool.

[Reptilian Rob]

Jagri wrote...

I am sure ME team is quite busy at the moment. That the DA guys are trying keep things cool.

I can see them now, in that huge swimming pool filled with money...

[Omega Torsk]

PedEgg wrote...

They're using the bad fan reaction to the ending as clever marketing now.