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[Sanrei]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

PedEgg wrote...

Turn it on/off campaign to show Bioware how many support them as well as the potential for customer loss..

PedEgg, there ya go stealin' mah thunder. LOL. Jk, jk.

I definitely, definitely would love it if everyone involved with this movement participated. I think it would be a wake-up call to BioWare/EA if their numbers surged, then all of a sudden dropped the next day. 

I also put a section up for it in the War Assets section. Check it out, y'all! (Oh ya, I did updates today! *Feels accomplished*)

Woo updates!!

And let's face it, I just got lucky. xD

Bump!

[CDRSkyShepard]

MrAtomica wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

3) Only a sillyhead would ally with the Reapers

Before the Catalyst mosied onto the scene, I'd have been inclined to agree with you.

*Snip*

My quote is in reference to Drew's version of the ending (his version of the whole last half of ME3, actually), where the Catalyst doesn't exist. In Drew's version, yes...allying with the Reapers is not only silly, but halfway suicidal.

Then there's my take on the Reapers as they are explained in the version we got (*gags*): I don't care what the Catalyst's intentions were, or if the Reapers were tools. They were intelligent, willing tools that used the most heinous ways of achieving their ends. We don't even treat bugs like that (assuming we could indoctrinate them and turn them against their own anthills). To me, that's the epitome of evil. Also, to assume oneself so superior that they know what is best for everything else is so incredibly arrogant it borders on evil, if not crosses the line entirely. In fact, I think an option to ally with the Reapers in the version we have is even more suicidal than it would be in Drew's version. At least in Drew's version they were genuinely convinced they were saving people...but it's still not a good idea to try and make nice with beings that are convinced the only way to save you is to kill you.

[Gyspy Jive]

bump.

[Sanrei]

If I ever need to question whether the reapers are evil or not I just have to remember Thessia.

[Joroelcapo]

bump

[a.m.p]

I was going to suggest drayfish's post be linked separately with a must read sign on it, but it's already linked separately with a must read sign on it. Great job.

[MRadway]

I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favourite thread on the forums.

[bcdmn1989]

nice job! I am so happy to join in u.

[Sanrei]

Bump for a better ending!

[Madecologist]

Everyime I see CDRSkyShepard's avatar I get the mental image she is on a mission.. a mission for a better ending. Flying towards where ever she needs to get to, that or trying to outrun the bad ending.

[Reptilian Rob]

Madecologist wrote...

Everyime I see CDRSkyShepard's avatar I get the mental image she is on a mission.. a mission for a better ending. Flying towards where ever she needs to get to, that or trying to outrun the bad ending.

That really giggled my Garrus. 

[Spyre2001]

Madecologist wrote...

Everyime I see CDRSkyShepard's avatar I get the mental image she is on a mission.. a mission for a better ending. Flying towards where ever she needs to get to, that or trying to outrun the bad ending.

And yet sadly as more time passes I feel she will be about as successful as all those other races that faced the reapers before us.

[unoriginalname1133]

Spyre2001 wrote...

Madecologist wrote...

Everyime I see CDRSkyShepard's avatar I get the mental image she is on a mission.. a mission for a better ending. Flying towards where ever she needs to get to, that or trying to outrun the bad ending.

And yet sadly as more time passes I feel she will be about as successful as all those other races that faced the reapers before us.

Maybe, but this isn't over yet

[CDRSkyShepard]

unoriginalname1133 wrote...

Spyre2001 wrote...

Madecologist wrote...

Everyime I see CDRSkyShepard's avatar I get the mental image she is on a mission.. a mission for a better ending. Flying towards where ever she needs to get to, that or trying to outrun the bad ending.

And yet sadly as more time passes I feel she will be about as successful as all those other races that faced the reapers before us.

Maybe, but this isn't over yet

I'm really tempted to change my avatar to this: 
 

You think it'll have the same effect? Riding off on the Normandy to save the ending trailing a red, green, and blue rainbow? Lol.

You know, I realized something today. Even if we lose in the end and BioWare is too stubborn to see past their "artistic vision" shenanigans, we truly won't lose. I look at the sheer number of anti-ending YouTube video and blog posts, and I know that BioWare will never be able to outrun this. For better or for worse, but they won't be able to hide from it forever. It will catch up to them in one way or another, because the ending of this game has become the butt of an extensive list of jokes all over the internet. I haven't seen the same kind of passion and support in favor of the ending as I have against it. I think, eventually, we'll win a war of attrition. It might not save the Mass Effect trilogy as we know it now, but in the end, Mass Effect 3 will be infamous for it's crappy ending. That may not sound like much of a consolation prize but at least those who say, "I liked the ending, it was good" will be laughed at for all eternity for being ridiculous.

As much as I don't want my favorite sci-fi IP to die like this, if it's going to die, I'd rather it dies here than being p*mped out by EA as some online MMO horsehooey or Halo clone. In the end, I'm fighting to ensure BioWare and EA pay for what they've done...so that they can reap the seeds of discontent they sowed.

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 24 avril 2012 - 11:01 .

[SpeedDevil89]

I've been thinking, this whole deal reminds of something I heard somewhere, sometime... Bad press is better than none (substitute press with: advertising, fame, reputation, whatever else you think is more appropriate, end result is the same). I doubt that if ME3 was a superb game in all its aspects it wouldn't have made such a ruckus over the internet. I'm not really going anywhere with this, nor am I implying anything about BW/EA for their marketing tactics, I'm just voicing a thought that came to my mind at some point, that this had a significant (and hopefully unintentional) side effect to the game's/franchise's reputation.

[MrGone]

Don't know if you guys saw, but the California Literary Review has another article put up more recently about the ending, and how not having a final boss hurt it.

[im commander shep]

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[DamonD7]

Wow, talk about comprehensive! Very impressed at you gathering so much together (and with a lot of the reactions, of course).

[CDRSkyShepard]

MrGone wrote...

Don't know if you guys saw, but the California Literary Review has another article put up more recently about the ending, and how not having a final boss hurt it.

This is pretty much perfectly in line with my assertion that the game has no climax to speak of. I couldn't really put my finger on it before, but now I can:

There is no narrative climax, and there is no game climax. No definite rise in the action in the narrative (I disagree with the author of the article that this is the confrontation with TIM, because TIM should not be that important, I believe one of the commenters correctly referred to him as a "bridge character" like Saruman or Ryan from BioShock), and no definite boss battle to satisfy the gameplay aspect. ME1 had this with the player fighting Saren for the gameplay/boss aspect and with the fleets fighting Sovereign for the narrative aspect. ME2 had this with the player having the boss battle with babyReaper then immediately escaping the station with a big narrative hoorah. No such thing happened in ME3.

I'll add this to the OP as soon as I can. It's becoming a bit of a pain in the arse to maintain, so I'm trying to do consolidate updates. I'm probably just going to adopt the approach of taking the pure BBCode format of it I have saved in Googledocs and just updating that, then copy/pasting over the whole thing. That seems to be the path of least resistence. Lol.

"Boss Battle Blue Balls" for the win. I was laughing so hard at that. 

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 24 avril 2012 - 12:24 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

DamonD7 wrote...

Wow, talk about comprehensive! Very impressed at you gathering so much together (and with a lot of the reactions, of course).

Thank you! I've seen the "Pro-Ending" version of this thread...they ain't got nothin' on me. Lol. One of these days I might just write a Googledoc picking apart their OP, but it would have to wait until after finals. ;D They tried to use the Foundation series (Asimov) to back up their claims...I can use Foundation to rip them to shreds if I wanted. Hehehe.

[CDRSkyShepard]

HOLY TRIPLE POSTS, BATMAN!

This was too exciting for me NOT to post: my DLC poll has over 200 votes now! I'd love to see it hit 300 by the end of the week! /shamelessselfpromotion

Wait...is there such a thing as self-promotion when it's my own thread? XD

[Madecologist]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

As much as I don't want my favorite sci-fi IP to die like this, if it's going to die, I'd rather it dies here than being p*mped out by EA as some online MMO horsehooey or Halo clone. In the end, I'm fighting to ensure BioWare and EA pay for what they've done...so that they can reap the seeds of discontent they sowed.

I think I am in love...

I kid I kid. There I go thinking I am being witty again.

But I agree. I do not want to see Mass Effect die and I rather see it saved or at the very least salvaged. However if we are to 'lose' I rather the splash we make send out a clear message: "NO!" The ME we loved is gone and that any shell they may make afterwards will be lost to us. That EA and Bioware realises the mistakes they made and that the franchise won't get to live as some 'husk' of its former self, but die when it still had some dignity left.

Also for those behind the fall to realise and perhaps if we are lucky face the consequences of what they done.

[ed87]

Well if Mass Effect is going to die from a slow decline in fanbase, let it be a reminder to all not to repeat its mistakes.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Madecologist wrote...
I think I am in love...

I kid I kid. There I go thinking I am being witty again.

But I agree. I do not want to see Mass Effect die and I rather see it saved or at the very least salvaged. However if we are to 'lose' I rather the splash we make send out a clear message: "NO!" The ME we loved is gone and that any shell they may make afterwards will be lost to us. That EA and Bioware realises the mistakes they made and that the franchise won't get to live as some 'husk' of its former self, but die when it still had some dignity left.

Also for those behind the fall to realise and perhaps if we are lucky face the consequences of what they done.

Oh come on, you know you love me. XD

This is why I stopped playing MP, really. I love playing it with my friends and it is pretty addicting, but I hate what it represents as far as where the game appears to be headed. I also hate that it's necessary to get a piece of the ending that's important to many players. I won't let things like shiny reinforcement packs deter my resolve. I didn't even download the Resurgence Pack. Lol.

I figure the more numbers they have on the MP servers, the more evidence they have to justify taking Mass Effect in an online direction. This franchise isn't Halo. It's not built on that. It's built on an RPG foundation and a fantastic story all on its own even if you ignore the other media tie-ins. No offense to Halo fans, but it doesn't deserve to become a carbon-copy of Halo. It doesn't deserve an MMO treatment, either. (God forbid if the name "Mass Effect" ever had a monthly subscription, I might have to request it honorably commit seppaku. I abhor monthly subscription games with the fire of a thousand suns.)

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 24 avril 2012 - 07:14 .

[Madecologist]

As a Halo fan and a Gears of War fan, I will swear I do not want ME to become a clone of either of those games. Why do I want them to, I got them already, don't I? It is like people who played WoW saying, "I don't need a WoW clone when I got WoW."

I just wish game developers come to understand this. We don't need DA to be like Skyrim, and we don't need Mass Effect to be like some TPS or FPS.

As a Halo fan I can see, ME3 is like our version of their Halo: ODST. The game itself was not bad, it was just too short, way too short, offered nothing new from Halo 3 and still used the same MP engine. It was an expansion pack turned full priced new game but still being an expansion pack in length and content. It angered the Halo fans.

ME 3 is obviously not an expansion pack, but that was not the metaphor I was fishing for. It is that ME3 was suppose to be an epic conclusion to the story of our Shepard. What we got was a 'complete' game that lacked a real ending. We are left with something that is more of a cliffhanger at the end of a trilogy, no closure, and no sense of individuality at the ending. The entire experience of the series should have culminated at the ending, instead we got generic videogame ending number 23, in 3 shades of colour. Also #23 wasn't such a great ending to begin with.

In short Bioware failed to deliver on what they promised us and on what they built it up to. Just like how ODST was a dissapointment to the Halo community. Basically they tried to sneak one by the fans.

Modifié par Madecologist, 25 avril 2012 - 05:25 .