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[didymos1120]

seph22 wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

No, the endings are awful and both a logical and emotional disconnect from the rest of the trilogy.

Nevermind the fact that they invalidate EVERY SINGLE CHOICE made across all three games.

War assets want to talk with you, if you did everything wrong in ME1/ME2 you wont get enough support and the earth will be burned, what you did in me1/me2 matters you saved the earth

Yeah, that's what the game is trying to push, but the fact is, Earth is @#$%ed no matter what you choose.  You simply have to spend half a second pondering the implications of any of the magical colored light options. 

[yukon fire]

"They can expand upon that in DLC which is hinted at after you finish the game where that data box pops, my problem is with people who want to change the ending and want to force another ending that the writers didn't want to write."

Seems apparent they were hesitant to write any ending (using the same for all three but with different space magic colors) and wrapping it in an over used cliche of an old man telling a story. Also where was the normandy going? answer that one and you can be the next child/god/thing/lazy writer.

[Humakt83]

I agree with the poster. The endings are epic. Especially the one where Shepard lives.

Anyone who thinks the last part of the game isn't some kind of indoctrination process is simply wrong.

[seph22]

Citizen Q wrote...

seph22 wrote...

Caz Neerg wrote...

seph22 wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

No, the endings are awful and both a logical and emotional disconnect from the rest of the trilogy.

Nevermind the fact that they invalidate EVERY SINGLE CHOICE made across all three games.

War assets want to talk with you, if you did everything wrong in ME1/ME2 you wont get enough support and the earth will be burned, what you did in me1/me2 matters you saved the earth

So what? Who cares whether earth didn't finish burning, when there is no way that with the condition it is in it has enough food (if all of the species can even digest) to feed the militaries of every single species in the galaxy who are now permanently or semi-permanently stranded in the Sol system.  Who cares that the Reapers are gone or dead when your squad is crashed on the Mass Effect equivalent of a deserted island?  If you bother to think about the logical consequences of the endings they gave us for so much as two seconds, you figure out that everybody who didn't die is still screwed for the forseeable future.  A couple generations after the end of the game, things might *start* to substantially improve, but in the short term life for most people in the galaxy will probably be nasty, brutish, and short.

So what? they screwed people aka not happy ending, again they are not forced to change it, you can dislike an ending but if you say it's not valid ending and should be changed that's an issue, this idea of screwing people/etc should not be allowed is what i don't like, developers are free to do whatever they want if you like it or dislike it the ending should be accepted and as many others have already voiced in this topic the endings were fine to them and liked them.

I just hope bioware does not alter/change everything in order to please the people who don't want anything bad happens because they are attached to characters who guess what? will die at the end no matter what, no one lives forever, dying with honor knowning they stopped the reapers is good enough for them.

You seem to be ignoring all the responses talking about why the ending sucked outside of the ones that fit your view of everyone hating it because it's not 'happy'.

At this point you are either trolling, or incapable of informed debate. Either way, I'm through bashing my head against a wall. Simply know that you are in the vast minority with regards to liking the ending.

You are the one who refuse to get informed, I'm aware that some people have legit reasons
But if you bothered to read the thread and posts i replied to most are either

1-Where is my happy ending with my romance etc?
2-They did screw people over, not looking for "happy ending" but they don't want people screwed
3-I want more answers about that and this, i want everything explained/every plothole explained i want no room to imagine what happend or mystry in my games !

got it? these are the loudest in voices too, if you have a solid argument present it instead of the usual "you don't get it, you are troll etc"

[ChaosMarky]

NAWhisperBlade wrote...

Those endings aren't final. Something's coming. Wait 3 days.

What's in 3 days? :0

[seph22]

ChaosMarky wrote...

NAWhisperBlade wrote...

Those endings aren't final. Something's coming. Wait 3 days.

What's in 3 days? :0

What is in 3 days talk? was their someone announced that i missed :/?

[mohdhm]

Command and Conquer 4 is a great game! please don't change it! I loved the ending!

[CroGamer002]

Well, this thread exploded.

[Caz Neerg]

seph22 wrote...

So what? they screwed people aka not happy ending, again they are not forced to change it, you can dislike an ending but if you say it's not valid ending and should be changed that's an issue, this idea of screwing people/etc should not be allowed is what i don't like, developers are free to do whatever they want if you like it or dislike it the ending should be accepted and as many others have already voiced in this topic the endings were fine to them and liked them.

I just hope bioware does not alter/change everything in order to please the people who don't want anything bad happens because they are attached to characters who guess what? will die at the end no matter what, no one lives forever, dying with honor knowning they stopped the reapers is good enough for them.

Let me break it down for you, in case you aren't just a troll.  They gave us a set of endings which did two things; it angered/frustrated/disappointed the *vast* majority of people who have finished the game and care enough about it to express an opinion, to the point where most of them are no longer playing, and plan not to buy any DLC.  That is just bad business.  The second thing they did was copy/paste a set of endings from a fine game which is from an entirely different genre of narrative, which is not consistent IN. ANY. WAY. with what Mass Effect had been for the previous 2 and 19/20 of it's existence.  

They took a Space Opera which was primarily about choice and character relationships, centered on a larger than life character who when he made the right choices could *always* beat the odds, and then they tacked on what is functionally three flavors of one nihilistic dystopian ending ripped straight out of Deus Ex.  It would have worked wonderfully in a different game.  It has done so.  It doesn't fit any better here than randomly splicing the end of Alien 3 onto Independence Day would have.  

[Suraxis]

NAWhisperBlade wrote...

Those endings aren't final. Something's coming. Wait 3 days.

The hell you say?

[ChaosMarky]

seph22 wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

seph22 wrote...

Caz Neerg wrote...

seph22 wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

No, the endings are awful and both a logical and emotional disconnect from the rest of the trilogy.

Nevermind the fact that they invalidate EVERY SINGLE CHOICE made across all three games.

War assets want to talk with you, if you did everything wrong in ME1/ME2 you wont get enough support and the earth will be burned, what you did in me1/me2 matters you saved the earth

So what? Who cares whether earth didn't finish burning, when there is no way that with the condition it is in it has enough food (if all of the species can even digest) to feed the militaries of every single species in the galaxy who are now permanently or semi-permanently stranded in the Sol system.  Who cares that the Reapers are gone or dead when your squad is crashed on the Mass Effect equivalent of a deserted island?  If you bother to think about the logical consequences of the endings they gave us for so much as two seconds, you figure out that everybody who didn't die is still screwed for the forseeable future.  A couple generations after the end of the game, things might *start* to substantially improve, but in the short term life for most people in the galaxy will probably be nasty, brutish, and short.

So what? they screwed people aka not happy ending, again they are not forced to change it, you can dislike an ending but if you say it's not valid ending and should be changed that's an issue, this idea of screwing people/etc should not be allowed is what i don't like, developers are free to do whatever they want if you like it or dislike it the ending should be accepted and as many others have already voiced in this topic the endings were fine to them and liked them.

I just hope bioware does not alter/change everything in order to please the people who don't want anything bad happens because they are attached to characters who guess what? will die at the end no matter what, no one lives forever, dying with honor knowning they stopped the reapers is good enough for them.

You seem to be ignoring all the responses talking about why the ending sucked outside of the ones that fit your view of everyone hating it because it's not 'happy'.

At this point you are either trolling, or incapable of informed debate. Either way, I'm through bashing my head against a wall. Simply know that you are in the vast minority with regards to liking the ending.

You are the one who refuse to get informed, I'm aware that some people have legit reasons
But if you bothered to read the thread and posts i replied to most are either

1-Where is my happy ending with my romance etc?
2-They did screw people over, not looking for "happy ending" but they don't want people screwed
3-I want more answers about that and this, i want everything explained/every plothole explained i want no room to imagine what happend or mystry in my games !

got it? these are the loudest in voices too, if you have a solid argument present it instead of the usual "you don't get it, you are troll etc"

Please dont fuel the conflict anymore.  Me and a couple of friends here in the forums have been calming them down. So far we've been able to supress them...

But this...

you're only going to refuel the chaos...

[avmf8]

seph22 wrote...

Caz Neerg wrote...

seph22 wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

No, the endings are awful and both a logical and emotional disconnect from the rest of the trilogy.

Nevermind the fact that they invalidate EVERY SINGLE CHOICE made across all three games.

War assets want to talk with you, if you did everything wrong in ME1/ME2 you wont get enough support and the earth will be burned, what you did in me1/me2 matters you saved the earth

So what? Who cares whether earth didn't finish burning, when there is no way that with the condition it is in it has enough food (if all of the species can even digest) to feed the militaries of every single species in the galaxy who are now permanently or semi-permanently stranded in the Sol system.  Who cares that the Reapers are gone or dead when your squad is crashed on the Mass Effect equivalent of a deserted island?  If you bother to think about the logical consequences of the endings they gave us for so much as two seconds, you figure out that everybody who didn't die is still screwed for the forseeable future.  A couple generations after the end of the game, things might *start* to substantially improve, but in the short term life for most people in the galaxy will probably be nasty, brutish, and short.

So what? they screwed people aka not happy ending, again they are not forced to change it, you can dislike an ending but if you say it's not valid ending and should be changed that's an issue, this idea of screwing people/etc should not be allowed is what i don't like, developers are free to do whatever they want if you like it or dislike it the ending should be accepted and as many others have already voiced in this topic the endings were fine to them and liked them.

I just hope bioware does not alter/change everything in order to please the people who don't want anything bad happens because they are attached to characters who guess what? will die at the end no matter what, no one lives forever, dying with honor knowning they stopped the reapers is good enough for them.

The ending is not valid and I go as far as to say its false advertising. It was every fan of the game was promissed all the actions off all 3 games mattered. They did'nt matter even a bit. No matter what you did in the 1st and second game or even the 3rd mattered. All that mattered was the final "choice".

What they did destroys my replay value. I wanted to play the first game the second and the 3rd as one big game and I won't do that now whats the point?  Hardly anyone has said the existing "endings" are good. Just google "mass effect 3 ending" you will see you are part of a small minority.

If the ending was OK to you then you were not that big of a fan. You would have to take a meh attitude towwards mass effect to like the "endings".

[ChaosMarky]

WAIT! what's in 3 days?? :0 did I miss something too? :0

[aDuck]

seph22 wrote...

Caz Neerg wrote...

So what? Who cares whether earth didn't finish burning, when there is no way that with the condition it is in it has enough food (if all of the species can even digest) to feed the militaries of every single species in the galaxy who are now permanently or semi-permanently stranded in the Sol system.  Who cares that the Reapers are gone or dead when your squad is crashed on the Mass Effect equivalent of a deserted island?  If you bother to think about the logical consequences of the endings they gave us for so much as two seconds, you figure out that everybody who didn't die is still screwed for the forseeable future.  A couple generations after the end of the game, things might *start* to substantially improve, but in the short term life for most people in the galaxy will probably be nasty, brutish, and short.

So what? they screwed people aka not happy ending, again they are not forced to change it, you can dislike an ending but if you say it's not valid ending and should be changed that's an issue, this idea of screwing people/etc should not be allowed is what i don't like, developers are free to do whatever they want if you like it or dislike it the ending should be accepted and as many others have already voiced in this topic the endings were fine to them and liked them.

I just hope bioware does not alter/change everything in order to please the people who don't want anything bad happens because they are attached to characters who guess what? will die at the end no matter what, no one lives forever, dying with honor knowning they stopped the reapers is good enough for them.

In relation to your war assets... the destruction of a mass relay destroys the system its in (see Arrival DLC in ME2), thus Earth has been destroyed no matter what.  In the end, what I said earlier (as in 10 minutes ish ago) applies.  The devs were lazy, and didnt want to show anything post-Reaper-destruction because it would be too time-consuming.  Destroying the relays were the quickest way to end it, and the easiest.  Thats not to say the best, though.
I wouldnt have minded Shepard dying no matter what, its just I would have loved to see mourning over the savior of the galaxy, after-action politics brewing (Wreav starting war with salarians, etc.).  These would have been the things that wouldn't have invalidated our choices at the end, and made the conclusion of the war that much sweeter.

[Balmung31]

NAWhisperBlade wrote...

Those endings aren't final. Something's coming. Wait 3 days.

[KainrycKarr]

Do people just NOT understand that we don't give a flying eff about the happyness, we care about the damn plotholes?

[yukon fire]

Holes sink ships, ME3 is just a Titanic. I don't want happy. I wanna know WTH is wrong the rEApers for thinking THAT was an ENDing. but as we all can tell you are clearly in the rEApers camp their word is your child/god.

[TheKingofRedLions]

Oh hey, another person who calls out a group of people with valid concerns, doesn't attempt to refute those concerns at all, and then - wait for it - is confused.

If you like the ending - good for you. I'm glad someone does.

Don't insult me because you refuse to acknowledge the elephant in the room.

[Jackal7713]

NAWhisperBlade wrote...

Those endings aren't final. Something's coming. Wait 3 days.

How do you know bud?

[Suraxis]

Balmung31 wrote...

NAWhisperBlade wrote...

Those endings aren't final. Something's coming. Wait 3 days.

Seems legit.

[AdrynBliss]

didymos1120 wrote...

seph22 wrote...

Citizen Q wrote...

No, the endings are awful and both a logical and emotional disconnect from the rest of the trilogy.

Nevermind the fact that they invalidate EVERY SINGLE CHOICE made across all three games.

War assets want to talk with you, if you did everything wrong in ME1/ME2 you wont get enough support and the earth will be burned, what you did in me1/me2 matters you saved the earth

Yeah, that's what the game is trying to push, but the fact is, Earth is @#$%ed no matter what you choose.  You simply have to spend half a second pondering the implications of any of the magical colored light options. 

yeah..no.
People seems to be under the misconception that the relays blew even if you chose red, and the sol relay going up destroyed earth.
If that happend and every thing in the sol system was wiped out then why is shep still alive?
The fact is the relays did not blow, the red lines on the galaxy map was just showing the energy spreading through the relays, not blowing them up. undeniable evidence being sheps still alive.
Earth is in one peice, the normandy can be found with its distress beacon and last known location and shep is alive. It is actually a happy ending.
The ****ing about the ending comes from people not able to see the obvious. faith in humanity -1
Though personally I am holding on to the believe that there's some loop hole that means edi and the geth suvived.

Modifié par AdrynBliss, 13 mars 2012 - 07:14 .

[Ja5ck]

Ulmont wrote...

Seph, I took the liberty of writing this, in the hopes you are at least vaguely familiar with the Star Wars Original Trilogy.

Here's why we hate the endings - if the endings were Star Wars:

After the Emperor is killed, Luke passes out and is teleported to the surface of the Death Star. There, the blue ghost of one of the Jawas who was killed at the start of Episode IV explains to you that the Empire was founded on the principle of keeping droids of of cantinas, and that droids will inevitably enter cantinas, so the Death Star was built to destroy all cantinas. The jawa then presents Luke with three options: Blow up the Death Star, Destroy All Droids, or to Let Droids into Cantinas.

We don't hate them because Shepard dies, and they're not happy. We hate them because some writer pulled them out of his ass at the last minute, and they make no sense with respect to the series as a whole.

this

[TheKomandant]

You know, its not even the lack of choice that bugged me. I had no choice in defeating Sovergn, and that ending was pretty boss.

The problem I have is the fact that the deicions I am forced to make, are based around erroneous conclusions made by a Reaper-Child, who my character listens to... cuz yea. The reasons behind the ending are nonsensical.

If the ending was no choice at all, but MADE SENSE, I'd probably be nowhere near as annoyed or disappointed.

[s.nebulous]

Why is it a problem to ask Bioware to add new endings?

[saturos2]

Morrden wrote...

Oh look, another post about how people only hate the ending because it's not happy.

I sure am glad it had nothing to do with lack of closure, huge plot holes, and a complete change in theme and tone. Otherwise you'd look pretty silly right now.