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[shepskisaac]

Forgetting about all the plotholes why did the Normandy ended up on the jungle planet, I'm REALLY liking the synthesis ending. it requires Shep to sacrifice himself completely (in control ending it's just the body), yet seeing EDI and Joker smile and how life got trasformed was just beautiful.

[Nefelius]

ye, but why couldn't i just toss dead Anderson in the beam? And what stops new robohumans from creating new AIs which will wage war on their creators?

[Umbrellamage]

And for some reason I found a green glowing liara with glowing eyes and circuitry to be oddly more attractive than regular liara.

[shepskisaac]

Nefelius wrote...

ye, but why couldn't i just toss dead Anderson in the beam?

Because he wasn't a partially synthetic like Shep was, thought it was clear.

[Megachaz]

I thought the synthesis option was pure evil. You just essentially altered the intrinsic nature of every living being. You took away the free will of every being in the galaxy.

[GoblinSapper]

Yes, the doom of man is very beautiful.

[d-boy15]

It my opinion 'synthasis' ending is not solve any problem.

Still prefer to 'yippie ki yay' ending anyway

[Lmaoboat]

I thought it was the second best ending, but that hopeful tone of Tracer Tong's voice when you start the dark age is better.

[lasertank]

Take a loot what Saren said in ME1 
www.youtube.com/watch


What changed you????

[The Angry One]

Congratulations, you've become Saren.

[StefanBW]

Yeah, it's great that the guy who abandoned me gets to be with his robo-girlfriend.

Destroy, destroooy!

[lasertank]

IsaacShep wrote...

Nefelius wrote...

ye, but why couldn't i just toss dead Anderson in the beam?

Because he wasn't a partially synthetic like Shep was, thought it was clear.

So? Any one with implants can be dumped into the beam? Please note you just rationalize it in your mind. The whole ME2 and 3 plot did not give one little explanation toward this.

[TheSneric]

Megachaz wrote...

I thought the synthesis option was pure evil. You just essentially altered the intrinsic nature of every living being. You took away the free will of every being in the galaxy.

yep, this is how i view that ending too

[Karrie788]

Actually, seeing Joker with glowing eyes freaked me out.

[Furluge]

Megachaz wrote...

I thought the synthesis option was pure evil. You just essentially altered the intrinsic nature of every living being. You took away the free will of every being in the galaxy.

What exactly makes you think you took the free will away from everyone?  Yes you did alter the intrinsic nature of every being organic and synthetic into some kind of wierd, unknown, new kind of framework but that doesn't take away everyone's free will. Not exactly the ending I wanted, but better than the other two. And also the only one where see any of the crew remotely happy afterwards.

Modifié par Furluge, 13 mars 2012 - 09:29 .

[Gowienczyk]

Furluge wrote...

Megachaz wrote...

I thought the synthesis option was pure evil. You just essentially altered the intrinsic nature of every living being. You took away the free will of every being in the galaxy.

What exactly makes you think you took the free will away from everyone?  Yes you did alter the intrinsic nature of every being organic and synthetic into some kind of wierd, unknown, new kind of framework but that doesn't take away everyone's free will.

You just changed every organic's makeup in the galaxy without their will. 

...so it IS pure evil and everything against Shepard's ideals.

[Stalker]

lasertank wrote...

Take a loot what Saren said in ME1 
www.youtube.com/watch


What changed you????

Great to hear that again. Made me more convinced that it's indoctrination.
The kid ("Master of the Reapers" btw) convinced Shepard to believe him. Convinced him that the options given are the only opportunity.
Sounded exactly like Saren.

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 13 mars 2012 - 09:35 .

[Karrie788]

Furluge wrote...

Megachaz wrote...

I thought the synthesis option was pure evil. You just essentially altered the intrinsic nature of every living being. You took away the free will of every being in the galaxy.

What exactly makes you think you took the free will away from everyone?  Yes you did alter the intrinsic nature of every being organic and synthetic into some kind of wierd, unknown, new kind of framework but that doesn't take away everyone's free will. Not exactly the ending I wanted, but better than the other two. And also the only one where see any of the crew remotely happy afterwards.

You changed their very nature without their consent. How are you not taking away their free will?

Besides, they look happy in every ending. Even the LI, who usually looks like he/she's about to burst into tears at the prospect of leaving Shep forever.

[HKR148]

Does the sentient being's natural right extends to right to keep his/her body as it is down to the molecular level? Similar dillema to whether the individuals have a full right to harm his/her own body. Need to answer this fundamental ethical problem.

Modifié par HKR148, 13 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[Furluge]

Gowienczyk wrote...
You just changed every organic's makeup in the galaxy without their will. 

...so it IS pure evil and everything against Shepard's ideals.

I'm pretty sure EDI and the Geth, and every other form of synthetic life wouldn't will themselves to be anhilated. Also apparently you'd have the same problem on your hands soon enough given what the Spacebaby says.



And as for control, I'm pretty sure Shepard can't stay uncorrupted by the reapers forever.

[turian_rage]

For me, the synthesis ending was mearly a "what if" scenario. There was no way it could have been canon in my book, so it was cool seeing what happened. The problem with that was that the other 2 endings were very similar, minus the green stuff.

[Furluge]

Karrie788 wrote...

Besides, they look happy in every ending. Even the LI, who usually looks like he/she's about to burst into tears at the prospect of leaving Shep forever.

Have you seen the EDI and Joker in the Synthesis ending? You're really comparing /that/ to that stunned walk out you get with the other two?

[toots1221]

Megachaz wrote...

I thought the synthesis option was pure evil. You just essentially altered the intrinsic nature of every living being. You took away the free will of every being in the galaxy.

Yeah this is why I hated synthesis. Shepard just became Saren. Yipee.

[shepskisaac]

lasertank wrote...

So? Any one with implants can be dumped into the beam?

Probably yes? Is there anyone with implants standing there? Shep's not THAT special. He's special in that he's the one who managed to reach the point where he can make decisions, but TIM most likely could've picked all 3 endings as well. Not sure where the problem here is. Shep already is almost God-like, people want him to be even more special?

[Ieldra]

IsaacShep wrote...
Forgetting about all the plotholes why did the Normandy ended up on the jungle planet, I'm REALLY liking the synthesis ending. it requires Shep to sacrifice himself completely (in control ending it's just the body), yet seeing EDI and Joker smile and how life got trasformed was just beautiful.

I agree completely. The presentation shows that this is supposed to be a good ending. The salvation theme is clearly visible here. Why people refuse to see that is beyond my comprehension.

Too many people have knee-jerk responses to this, associating bad things with no evidence whatsoever. That's their prerogative I guess, but it should be noted that nothing in the ending sequence actually suggests them.