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[wolfenstein410]

something else that might be worth pointing out is the fact that the game creates an autosave file right after you get hit by harbinger's beam on earth. most people would look at that and say this save feature was included so you can try all of the different endings without replaying the entire earth mission. however, to me one of the most prominent features of the ME series is how it forces you into tough decisions, and makes you live with the consequences. under this line of thinking, i find it very hard to believe you would be allowed to shop around and experiment with the most paramount of all decisions and try them all out until you find one suitable to close your ME canon with.  i might be grasping at straws here, but it just seems strange that you can change the future of the entire galaxy over and over again, making the culminating point of my 100 hour/3-game campaign seem so trivial.  not that the differences between the red, green and blue endings aren't trivial in the first place;)

in my wishful thinking, this autosave point is where your game will restart once you download the finale DLC, and that this was all an elaborate marketing plan in which bioware reveals all of the players have themselves been "indoctrinated" into thinking the citadel ending was reality when instead it was just a glorified dream sequence.

Modifié par wolfenstein410, 14 mars 2012 - 09:42 .

[jackalope38]

I'd like to point out that though there is only one way in, Anderson tells you that he appeared somewhere else, which is impossible since you never see him and he supposedly came in behind Shep. Also, they state that the human bodies must have been sent for "processing" but there is no evidence of that going on, bodies are seemingly placed at random and no reaper presence is in fact processing them.

Also, where did TIM come from? He wasn't with you either....

Modifié par jackalope38, 15 mars 2012 - 12:49 .

[ARW_0309]

Hitler's Reaction to Mass Effect 3 Endings:


More funny but so true pictures:
http://www.quarterto...d.php?p=3074777
http://i.imgur.com/KbrMI.jpg

[ARW_0309]

Very true, about Anderson look on page 3 for my post about Anderson in particular. TIM just appears to follow you as well my theory is for the player to believe this actually the "true" ending. Like they convinced an important enemy to change sides, while we all know the true enemy is Harbinger.

[x0 Misfit 0x]

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense, my friend hasn't even finished the game and actually asked me whether Shepard was becoming Indoctrinated or not.

[Tachio]

pprrff wrote...

I'm sorry to say this but the only thing worse than what we have for an ending is that Shepard gets indoctrinated at the end. [...] So yea, I don't see why people who are upset over the current ending will put their hopes in a even worse one.

If Shepard gets indoctrinated or not depends on your choice. According to this theory, the part after Shepard gets hit by the laser is his mental struggle against indoctrination and if you choose to destroy the reapers you brake free.



Also regarding the denial: of course it is denial. For me it is just nearly impossible to believe, that the current ending is supposed to be serious. But not because of happy or unhappy ending stuff, but because nothing that happens or is said in this sequence makes any sense at all. It is not just bad writing, it is such incredibly bad writing, I can't even find words to describe it.

For example think of the star child's explanation for the second choice:
"You will die. You will control us, but you will lose anything you have" -- "But the reapers will obey me?" -- "Yes."
I mean what the hell? How is Shepard supposed to control the reapers if he dies? And even if they meant he will die as a human, but remain some kind of awesome element zero cloud with the power to control the reapers, he would not have known that. And if he is able to give them one command before he dies, what keeps them from attacking again after he died? Will they just follow an order from some random dead guy until the universe ends? Right... Why didn't he question that horrendously stupid line?
This basically sums up my problem with the ending, because one actually has to make an effort for something to make such little sense. If it was just bad writing, at least something would be accidentally right.

Modifié par Tachio, 15 mars 2012 - 05:01 .

[ARW_0309]

I know and agree with you. The Catalyst's response for reason by destroying organics is Ludicrous as well.
Shepard: Solution? To what?
Catalyst: Chaos. You Bring it on yourselves. The created will always rebel against their creators. But we found a way to stop that from happening. A way to restore order for the next cycle.
Shepard: By wiping out organic life?
Catalyst: No. We harvest advanced civilizations, leaving the younger ones alone. Just as we left your people alive the last time we were here.
Shepard: But you killed the rest.
Catalyst: We helped them ascend so they could make way for new life, storing the old life in Reaper form.
Shepard: I think we would rather keep our own form.
Catalyst: No, you can't... Without us to stop it, synthetics would destroy all organics. We've created this cycle so that never happens. That's the solution.
Shepard: So let me get this straight the Reapers, an advanced synthetic species if you will destroy other less advanced civilizations every 50,000 years so synthetics don't destroy us?
Catalyst: Precisely, our solution is the perfect way to keep the peace for all species throughout the galaxy.
Shepard: You must take great pride in what your people do.
Catalyst: Oh yes, the Reapers must take this horrible burden for the greater good, you see.
Shepard: Ohhhh, that all makes perfect sense now, what would this galaxy do without out you.
Catalyst: I don't know, possible grow and flourish. You know bad boring stuff like that.

[Croakamancer]

As a note, the catalyst not only disagrees with Shepard on the subject of hope, there're two little quotes that I like to read in combination

"A new Solution is needed"

"The Final Evolution"

Normally, I'd call co-incidence, but those two lines are not that fine apart. Coupled with everything else.

[Sailears]

I believe.
Maybe not in the specifics of this theory , but gradual indoctrination throughout the game is going to lead to a twist of the likes of (even greater than that of) KotOR.

Modifié par Curunen, 16 mars 2012 - 01:53 .

[DarkLordDravin]

I'm impressed with your post. Well done. I hope for the same, and more to come in April for us all.

[FellishBeast]

/rez