I encourage everybody to call me anal and accuse me of overthinking to get it out of your system, and then try to help me answer a few questions that arise during the final cutscene of the game.
The essential question here is: Where is the jungle planet, and how far away from earth is it?
Firstly, I don't know how fast the Normandy is, but so far as I'm aware, there's only one Mass Effect relay in the Sol system, and there's obviously no jungle planets here.
So either Joker is heading to another star close by on the Normandy's own mass effect drive, or he went through the Charon relay. The charon relay connects to arcturus, but so far as I know, it's a secondary mass effect relay - arcturus is very close to earth, so it doesn't make a lot of sense for it to be a primary relay...but on the other hand, there's no jungle planet between the charon and arcturus relays either.
It seems highly improbable that the burst thing would catch up to the normandy between star systems and it would then crash onto a jungle planet, considering how fast the normandy would've had to be going, and how empty space is.
Anyway, so assuming the Normandy is within a mass effect relay corridor, the question then becomes, which one? The burst is clearly moving faster than light - otherwise it couldn't catch up with the normandy, within a corridor or not - so presumably, joker was already moving away from the burst at ftl speeds, and somehow that allows him to register the burst is coming to get the normandy, and so he tries to escape via the mass effect relays.
If he's currently within a corridor from the charon relay, he could be up to, I guess, 1k lightyears away from earth - if he managed more jumps, then he could be further away, particularly if he went via a primary relay. Presumably, getting yanked out of the corridor places the normany in a star system far away from everything, but still reasonably close to where the corridor would be. I think it's probably safe to assume the jungle planet is within 50k lightyears of earth; the normandy would have had to jump 3 primary relays to get that far though, and that really doesn't seem reasonable. It seems he might've gone through the charon and then through a secondary, and then through a primary, and then work out that he couldn't outrun the burst via the relays.
It also seems to me that there would be plenty of time to be in contact with alliance command during such a trek, that Edi would find out the signal had stopped the reapers but destroyed the mass effect relays, and then simply would ask Joker to stop.
So if a primary relay shifted them 10k lightyears, then, that's probably the distance from earth they're at.
Now I don't know what the normandy's speed is, exactly, because I don't know the distances between the stars in the various systems it's travelled through - but it's probably pretty quick. Is anyone aware of the stellar distance between some of the stars the normandy travelled between in the game? because the entire campaign in the third game cannot have taken more than a year, so that would give us a rough estimate of the time it would take to get to the jungle planet without the mass relays.
The best estimate I have is that the charon relay is 2 hours out, but Joker must've made it there in no more than 10 minutes, unless he was already trying to leave the system (because he was being chased), to realize what the exact ramifications of the burst was as he was leaving. Assuming a certain level of consistency between the endings, the blue burst would've made him stop trying to run if he found out what it was doing via the quantum entanglement communication and Edi. In fact, Edi would probably try to raise everyone and their mom about the beam as soon as they spotted it, and would probably surmise it's effect in a matter of just 2 minutes...so I figure the Normandy can fly at least 50 times the speed of light.
Assuming Shepard was able to find out where the Normandy crashed...assuming Edi left a record...and assuming the ability to fly the entire way at normandy march speeds and looking at the worst case scenario for the planets location...we're probably talking no more than 500 years to go and fetch the crew.
In other words, at least Liara would still have a chance of being alive if Shepard launched a rescue mission and entered either a dormant sleep state, or he was put into a time dilation field...
The location of the jungle planet, and how long it would take to get to it
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MadsTejlgaard
, mars 13 2012 11:41
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Posté 13 mars 2012 - 11:41





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