KoorahUK wrote...
urazoktay wrote...
People who believe Shepard is dead at the end of ME 3 better be ready for a surprise...
Even if we are not to be him again, he will be remembered via destroying Reapers and staying alive that day.
You'll see...
You have no idea how important is Shepard to ME universe. He will never be made remembered through turning into a Reaper Aİ or dooming the Galaxy with choosing Synthesize...
Either we will continue his story or remember him for being the conquerer of Reapers.
Other two options are just an insult to the trilogy. They deny the whole idea of it, essence of it. Only one way to continue the story, if this is Bioware's intention.
Try to grasp it, there were no paragon renegade ending, there were no real choice but to destroy the reapers no matter the cost. Edi, LEGİON, Anderson, GARRUS, Hackett, and every other being ( with the exception of İM man and so called Starchild - he was no starchild as a new character, he was Harbinger dammit- of course ) tried to tell you this in last game.
Just remember EDİ's words, Geth's opinion on Reapers, what Garrus hinted you by his choice of Turian Fleets FULL RETREAT in order to protect the Crucible.
You really still do consider Synthesize or Control as an option to continue Mass Effect's story...
Every story which the way Mass Effect's being told, only has one ending to it... No matter if you screwed it up at the end or not.
Seriously, do you think there is a way to continue the story via Sytnthesize or Control. Sythesize just makes it impossible to tell a new story, every being in the Galaxy essentially being the same... No difference really between a Krogan and a Turian, they all have the same perception of things, essentially they are all the same half organic half sythetic reaper kind a beings...
Control? Yes make Shepard the new Harbinger, in time he will lose his perspective of life, grasping the value of life and eventually decides to continue the cycle. The same story over again lol?
Oh and no one wants their hero to become their villain at the end. No way a new reaper story will happen next with Shepard being the new Harbinger.
"Shepard? Who was this 'Shepard'?"
"He was this great human hero centuries ago who averted the destruction of the Galaxy by giant machines"
"I see"
There, all three endings referenced in one sentence without contradicting one another. Also...
Destroy: Synthetics rise again as predicted. Universe back to normal.
Control: The Reapers vanished decades ago and no one knows where they went. Universe back to normal.
Synthesis: After a few generations the underlying genetic code reasserted itself and self engineered out the synthetic matrix / reverse for Synthetics. Universe returns to normal.
All of these have not been thought about for longer than 30 seconds but a half competant script writer could do a much better job; it won't be nearly as hard as some people think.
Bioware have said more than once, that a new story need have nothing at all to do with the events of Shepards time and that Shepards story IS OVER. He doesn't need to be dead or alive because he is irrelevant to what will come other than a codex entry,
In fact, not referencing Shepard at all would probably be better.
I'm sorry my friend I think it is you who are in for a big surprise.
You didn't get what i meant.
İt's not like the way you put it.
All three endings has nothing to do with each other in fact. You read my posts? You all people so focused on the ending of the game you're missing the point.
You have the take the whole journey we had been through into consideration.
You just give so little credit to writers of ME. You see it like it's all about the ending.
You just do some predictions about control and synthesize which only can be fantasized.
Why i say that, if you happen to read all my posts you'll see why those so called predictions about what would happen after control and synth endings makes no sense.
İ'm not gonna go through them all over again, it's all written here and there in my posts.
People who think all the three endings are the same just missed so much hints and clues given to them through their journeys.
Mark my words, if Shepard will ever be remembered or become main character again it can only be done through high ems destroy.
That's my point. Well if Shepard won't be recognized at all then it's off the topic already.
You all people just give too much credit what Bioware had to say about Shepard's future or his legacy.
İ evidenced my points right from in game given clues, hints and information not just on some statements about how Shepard will never return, How do you know it's not about for spicing things up a little eh?
İ am not saying that Shepard will surely return, i am saying control and synth endings can't be made canon for his return.
So i am pretty sure that there won't be any kind a surprise for me at all. But i can't say the same for lots of folks here.
İ even read some posts here on forums referencing about how Master Chief will never return... Solid Snake's story is over, yep we all know how those two ended up like...
Do you even come to think about synth or control at all. There are tons of hints that denies your predictions GİVEN İN GAME via diologs, codex's, making senseless to think Shepard going far away from the Galaxy in the future with the reapers via control ending. And do you REALLY think synthesize can be undone, seriously, than lol...
You never made any arguments against what i said really, just fantasized control and synth endings. İ tell all these from in game experiences.
Don't bother replying if you are not going to read my posts and do not oppose them without some valid points rather than fantasizing. Give me in game clues of WHY control or Synthesize can be made canon for starters.
Grasp this, i am not looking for some excuses how control or synth can be made canon by talking about aftermath. Show me the signs in ME 1,2,3. that leads to synth or control, nope all the signs opposes them, denies them, and all the way, you, as being Shepard always opposed them, never accepting them. İt was never a matter of choice really. Do you remember being able do side with Saren or İM and with their perspectives? Nope, you just had the option of how you reject them, paragon or renegade style...
Give me the directions, hints, clues İN GAME ( all in three games ) that leads to make one believe those two endings are fitting for being canon.
You just can't, because there are none, deal with it.
How the hell on earth DNA structures of all life in the galaxy can wear off? İt's pure nonsense and illogical. Synth changes DNA structures dammit, they are not drugged or something, it just not gonna wear off.
Control: You clearly did not realize that Shepard was no more Shepard anymore. He won't take Reapers away or else. Would Harbinger ever do that, well Shepard was no different then him at the end in a way. He was giving in to machine logic already..
He lost his organic perspective, he lost his perception of life and began to think like Reapers. His logic will be the same as Harbinger's. Just replay the last section and choose control in EC ending. Then listen to Shepard for god's sake.
Do you realize how many times he says "to save the many" MANY.
Dou you remember how Sovereign referred to Reapers in the first game?
We are MANY...
Shepard says this word in such a way and tone just like Sovereign did.
He says " i won't forget the ones who sacrificed themselves to save MANY" he repeats that afterwards.
Who the hell do you think he is referring to really. MANY are REAPERS. Shepard tricked by Reapers and turned into a Reaper kind a being, that's all about it.
Have you ever realized that there was a slide in control ending. Where it shows Miranda and Oriana curiously studying the Reapers?
Don't you remember Starchild ( Harbinger in fact ) saying by choosing control SHEPARD will lose his humanity also ( in anyway ) and not just his body?
How on earth can one say that a soulles Shepard, a Shepard without the things what made him the one who he is in the first place, a Shepard without his morals, without his perception of things, without his logic is different than Harbinger, is more than a machine?
Shepard will and already was talking, acting, perceiving things like a machine in the end.
Do you really think Reapers was repairing those damaged MAss Relays for any good?
Lol, they were repairing them for the next cycle...
Do you remember what Shepard said in EC firstly. He acts like a god, feels like a god, and talks in a way normally he would never do.
He was all in a power trip. İ am eternal, infinite! kind a words what he used.
Do you really think he would care for life in the Galaxy like the way he used to... He will care like how a Reaper would do so... Those were all given in game, if you can manage to understand them.
So maybe now you can understand why your fantesies regarding control and synth endings have no real ground.
Take care...
Modifié par urazoktay, 03 avril 2013 - 09:26 .