Steam ripping people off in the UK?
#51
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 05:48
And we defo get the Eurpoean treatment...
iow We pay more than americans *****ty that* but apart from that I've had NO problems with steam, not with this game or any others...
And Yes Steam is owned by Valve... But is a Digital Distributor for many other companies' games *for whoever didn't know*
I'd never again use D2drive though... Not a friggin' chance in hell!
Well I guess they *not Steam, but EA* are ripping You Brit guys/gals off... Since they made it GAME uk only.... Tsssk... The rest of us seem to have gotten what we should...
#52
Guest_eisberg77_*
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 05:55
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DaeFaron wrote...
well, yeah games wouldn't update if your in offline mode. I still don't get why anybody wouldn't want to just go to the store and buy it physically, so if something goes wrong you can reinstall quickly without having to spend awhile downloading the install file again.
I use Steam's back up utility to put the files on some DvDs. I do this on the first day when I buy a game, just in that rare chance that a patch did mess up the game for me.
Also, the physical stuff comes with a bunch of junk that I end up throwing away anyways, like the box, the DvD case, the junk advertisments, usually the manual is junk as well. Not to mention I have to pay for the gas to get it at the store, and have to play sales tax.
Modifié par eisberg77, 28 novembre 2009 - 05:58 .
#53
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 05:58
#54
Guest_eisberg77_*
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 06:02
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Jolly Teaparty wrote...
Incidentally, don't EA limit how much you can redownload a game unless you pay extra? Or did that ditch that rubbish?
I think they got rid of it. I got Mirror's Edge not to long ago, and they didn't offer me the Digital River extended download fee, and I saw nothing about having 30 days to download it as much as I want.
#55
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 06:07
#56
Guest_eisberg77_*
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 06:12
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DaeFaron wrote...
Still, I don't have to worry about the physical disk, manual, and anything else becoming corrupted or destroyed if something happens to the harddrive.
I don't have to worry about:
1- Loosing the DvD
2- Loosing the CD key
3- Accidently spilling something on the CDkey to make it not readable
4- Breaking the DvD
5- DvD becoming scratched and unreadable
6- Being robbed, and have all my games gone
#57
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 06:15
About being robbed, theft is pretty low in this place, mainly because attempting to rob somebodys house can get the would-be thief shot.
#58
Guest_eisberg77_*
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 06:22
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DaeFaron wrote...
Funny thing, neither do I. All the CD/DvDs are kept in one place, very hard to loose them since if they aren't being played they are in the case, Can't lose the CD-key when all the game manuals with the keys are also stored together.
About being robbed, theft is pretty low in this place, mainly because attempting to rob somebodys house can get the would-be thief shot.
And I have never lost anything due to corruption.
#59
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 06:29
I general dislike having to wait a day or two to download any game install files/large programs. Takes forever, lags the rest of the network and sometimes crashes right before it finishes.
#60
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 06:32
But robbing Brits is kinda low...
I mean their Island might already sink as it is, with all that rain, don't steal their free*actually paid for* DLC's...
#61
Posté 28 novembre 2009 - 09:57
Jolly Teaparty wrote...
I find myself fascinated with Steam because it's just such a clever concept. I have strong opinions on the subject of DRM and Steam is, as far as I'm concerned, the first workable model I've seen for PC game DRM. It lets the publisher protect their product in a way that also gives something back to the consumer. To me, not having to worry about storing a game disc is a big deal because I am lazy and have lost discs in the past. I also love the Steam community interface, though admittedly you can use this with boxed versions of the games too. Throw in auto-updating and unlimited re-downloading, great stuff!
You sound like steam invented it. I don't know the history of digital distribution platforms, but I do know that Stardock were tying your software and games purchases to an account and using a single piece of software (stardock central) to redownload them from a couple of years before steam.
I don't know if steam came up with the overlay/steam community thing first. It may have been Xfire, or they may both have copied another source.
DaeFaron wrote...
I still don't get why anybody wouldn't want to just go to the store and buy it physically, so if something goes wrong you can reinstall quickly without having to spend awhile downloading the install file again.
That's no reason not to buy it online. I've never investigated steam's reinstall mechanism but most services download and installer, store it somewhere and run it so if you need to rerun it there's no redownload anything. GamersGate is probably the most straightforward one as there's no silly clients at all, you just download the installer from the website, save it where you like and then run it yourself.
eisberg77 wrote...
I am unaware of any Steam game that doesn't need Steam to launch. I have 50+ games, and all of them need Steam running to play, all my single player one can be played offline mode though.
Company of Heroes for example. Of course, steam's options all create a shortcut that launches steam first. You have to create a shortcut from the executable.
eisberg77 wrote...
If you look to the right on this page below the meta score, you'll see "3rd party DRM"
http://store.steampo....com/app/22700/
If there is a 3rd party DRM, then it will list it, otherwise it uses Steam as its DRM.
Again, taking company of heroes as an example it needs to connect to the THQ server yet there's no mention of that on it's page. I prefer to avoid steam where I can now so I only have a dozen or so games on it so it's possible this is an odd exception.
eisberg77 wrote...
I know that most of my games I can play them unpatched, cause I have played them at least 1 time without being patched.
I'll have to investigate further then, I know when I tried the option it was refusing to let me play until I updated. Of course, that doesn't excuse the lack of a button to cancel updating. (actually, those cancel buttons steam has often don't work anyway - try cancelling startup next time you launch steam.)
eisberg77 wrote...
As far as download size, you go to install the game is says before you start downloading how much disk space is required, and how long it will take to download based on your average download speed from downloading stuff in the past.
I meant before you buy it. I don't know where the download limits are like where you live but they can be pretty strict here and knowing that's Steam's Dragon Age is (apparently) nearly 20GB instead of the 8GB elsewhere is really important information.
eisberg77 wrote...
I don't have to worry about:
1- Loosing the DvD
2- Loosing the CD key
3- Accidently spilling something on the CDkey to make it not readable
4- Breaking the DvD
5- DvD becoming scratched and unreadable
6- Being robbed, and have all my games gone
There's this miraculous invention called a shelf, it's really useful for storing games safely and they're far better there than sprawled about a desk.
Personally I'd rather have a disk as I find it a lot harder to lose than a username and password. Unfortunately I can't stand DVD checks so those games that refuse to offer an online authentication option in the boxed version (e.g. Dragon Age) I'll end up buying through a Digital Distribution service.





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