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[Vasarkian]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Vasarkian wrote...

I will not buy DA3, I will borrow it from a friend with their account or rent it or borrow it from a renter.

I will not buy ME4.

You do not release an ILLEGAL PRODUCT and then expect me to go buying more ILLEGALLY INCOMPLETE PRODUCTS.

What the h*ll? What was illegal about DAII or ME3?

ME3 was marketed as complete, it is not complete because it does not do what the interviewers and marketing promised, it does not factor in the assets in the final mission in any capacity and completely ignores them in the end, it is because of this that the ending is not complete in any capacity.

This is like selling a product without a part, and then realizing that the part doesn't exist in any capacity at any place in the world.

It would be worse if the community actually bought this part as it was made months later to make their product complete because that is ALSO illegal.

[furryrage59]

If you sit quietly and accept disasters such as this, they will be repeated in ignorance.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Allers took the prize out of my cereal box.

That <BLEEP> is going out the airlock.

[Volus Warlord]

furryrage59 wrote...

If you sit quietly and accept disasters such as this, they will be repeated in ignorance.

If you cry in outrage over everything, your shouts will soon be ignored.

[LeBurns]

AK318 wrote...

Listen this is the internet when ME4 comes out WHICH IT WILL (guaranteed) everyone complaining will most likely by it as with DA3 it is the way life for us gamers is, we sign petitions, write angry letters but we will all but the next one, look at the internet and the modern warfare games. I just burnned myself didn't I...Yeah I just did. We so SILLLLY

Um ... no.

TBH I have not seen anything official about a ME4 and what rumors I have seen tell of it being a CoD pleaser only.

I did not buy DA2 because (thank goodness) I played the demo first and saw that my realistic humans were turned into Super Flying Space Monkey Ninjas.  I didn't even have to get into all the other problems the game has (waves, ending, maps, etc.).  So DA2 and DA3 will never be bought by me personally.  You can buy it if you so choose.  BioWare effectively killed the DA franchise for me.

As far as the ME franchise, BioWare didn't troll us until the very end of the trilogy.  Personally I am currently out $5 on the ME franchise.  I bought ME1 on sale on STEAM.  I have played ME2 (borrowed my brothers) but have been waiting for the ME2 Ultimate edition to come out before purchasing it (as I just can't stand being nickle and dimed to death on DLC's).  I had no intention of buying ME3 until maybe sometime next year, again if an Ultimate edition came out.  But as it is I am now hesitate to even buy ME2 since I know the ending.

ps - Yes I ruined the ending for myself, but after DA2 that is the only way I can judge a BioWare game anymore so I just let that go.

[Bishop Runcy]

Vasarkian wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Vasarkian wrote...

I will not buy DA3, I will borrow it from a friend with their account or rent it or borrow it from a renter.

I will not buy ME4.

You do not release an ILLEGAL PRODUCT and then expect me to go buying more ILLEGALLY INCOMPLETE PRODUCTS.

What the h*ll? What was illegal about DAII or ME3?

ME3 was marketed as complete, it is not complete because it does not do what the interviewers and marketing promised, it does not factor in the assets in the final mission in any capacity and completely ignores them in the end, it is because of this that the ending is not complete in any capacity.

This is like selling a product without a part, and then realizing that the part doesn't exist in any capacity at any place in the world.

It would be worse if the community actually bought this part as it was made months later to make their product complete because that is ALSO illegal.

Utter BS. That's like saying Avatar was illegal because it didn't change cinema as Mr Cameron said it would. I think you need to read up on your law, son. Link to the law or do please be quiet.

Modifié par Bishop Runcy, 13 mars 2012 - 05:00 .

[skulker1507]

First off.
I am really satisfied with the overall experience of mass effect 3 and its trilogy
as a the complete package.

I am a
programmer and write fiction in my free time. So I do have a idea about how
much work goes into making a massive project like this.

Throwing a
tantrum against the people who put hard work in to this is really not respectful.
You can give positive critic on a respectful manner.

As for the
people who demand the ending should be changed, I have a suggestion for their
complaints.

Take a
piece of paper or open a word processor. Write down the ending you want. Not
just the general idea. Everything. Every scene, every word of dialog, all the
camera angles, the backgrounds, music to be used and all other details you probably
didn’t even noticed.

Write everything
down and when you are finished put it away for a day or two. Then read it again
and ask yourself. Still as good as the first time you wrote it ?

No, then
rewrite it again until you are satisfied and repeat the hole process. Yes, then
you start programming that ending your want. Can’t program ? Learn it or find
people who want to program it for you.

If at any
point during this process you find, it is not worth the trouble. Then you
should not complain because it is not that much worth as you might have thought
in the first place. This is the same process Bioware has to go through after
all.

Endings are
always a big challenge for every storyteller. But ask yourself. Does the ending
really destroy the overall experience you had for the 3 games ?    

[kbct]

furryrage59 wrote...

If you sit quietly and accept disasters such as this, they will be repeated in ignorance.

I like that. Gotta make our opinions known.

[HiddenKING]

Vasarkian wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Vasarkian wrote...

I will not buy DA3, I will borrow it from a friend with their account or rent it or borrow it from a renter.

I will not buy ME4.

You do not release an ILLEGAL PRODUCT and then expect me to go buying more ILLEGALLY INCOMPLETE PRODUCTS.

What the h*ll? What was illegal about DAII or ME3?

ME3 was marketed as complete, it is not complete because it does not do what the interviewers and marketing promised, it does not factor in the assets in the final mission in any capacity and completely ignores them in the end, it is because of this that the ending is not complete in any capacity.

This is like selling a product without a part, and then realizing that the part doesn't exist in any capacity at any place in the world.

It would be worse if the community actually bought this part as it was made months later to make their product complete because that is ALSO illegal.

It's called marketin. I don't believe when Capcom says they won't re-release a "complete" version of a game, and I didn't believe the your choices affect the end game. You know game limitations and all that junk, let's be realistic choice or the illusion of choice in a game is difficult to do. Also in any  story , even one with "choices" the beginnin, and end is always the same.

[MattFini]

Ben Shep wrote...

To everyone out there complaining about the ending and posting your bitter posts like the world has come to an end.

LET IT GO!

Just move on to something else.

... and the horse you rode in here on, too. 

[LeBurns]

skulker1507 wrote...




First off.
I am really satisfied with the overall experience of mass effect 3 and its trilogy
as a the complete package.

I am a
programmer and write fiction in my free time. So I do have a idea about how
much work goes into making a massive project like this.

Throwing a
tantrum against the people who put hard work in to this is really not respectful.
You can give positive critic on a respectful manner.

As for the
people who demand the ending should be changed, I have a suggestion for their
complaints.

Take a
piece of paper or open a word processor. Write down the ending you want. Not
just the general idea. Everything. Every scene, every word of dialog, all the
camera angles, the backgrounds, music to be used and all other details you probably
didn’t even noticed.

Write everything
down and when you are finished put it away for a day or two. Then read it again
and ask yourself. Still as good as the first time you wrote it ?

No, then
rewrite it again until you are satisfied and repeat the hole process. Yes, then
you start programming that ending your want. Can’t program ? Learn it or find
people who want to program it for you.

If at any
point during this process you find, it is not worth the trouble. Then you
should not complain because it is not that much worth as you might have thought
in the first place. This is the same process Bioware has to go through after
all.

Endings are
always a big challenge for every storyteller. But ask yourself. Does the ending
really destroy the overall experience you had for the 3 games ?    

Will I be paid to do this?  Like BioWare was paid to do this?  If not then I think I'll pass thank you.

[Vasarkian]

HiddenKING wrote...

Vasarkian wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Vasarkian wrote...

I will not buy DA3, I will borrow it from a friend with their account or rent it or borrow it from a renter.

I will not buy ME4.

You do not release an ILLEGAL PRODUCT and then expect me to go buying more ILLEGALLY INCOMPLETE PRODUCTS.

What the h*ll? What was illegal about DAII or ME3?

ME3 was marketed as complete, it is not complete because it does not do what the interviewers and marketing promised, it does not factor in the assets in the final mission in any capacity and completely ignores them in the end, it is because of this that the ending is not complete in any capacity.

This is like selling a product without a part, and then realizing that the part doesn't exist in any capacity at any place in the world.

It would be worse if the community actually bought this part as it was made months later to make their product complete because that is ALSO illegal.

It's called marketin. I don't believe when Capcom says they won't re-release a "complete" version of a game, and I didn't believe the your choices affect the end game. You know game limitations and all that junk, let's be realistic choice or the illusion of choice in a game is difficult to do. Also in any  story , even one with "choices" the beginnin, and end is always the same.

If Capcom changes the game enough to consider it a new product in some capacity even by vague terms then it is not illegal or false advertising as horrible a practice as that is, but if in marketing they say you can change the color of your tunic and you can't that is false advertising, granted this is a bit more serious.

[sorentoft]

No.<_<

[Sangheili_1337]

The vast majority of the criticism has been posted in a constructive manner. Telling people to not voice their opinions would only lead to worse games in the feature. A true fan would want the very best out of Bioware, if it wasnt for complaints we would still have the Mako sequences from Mass effect 1 and planet scanning from Mass effect 2.

[squee365]

Nope. Too busy holding the line.

[Persephone]

Vasarkian wrote...

AK318 wrote...

Listen this is the internet when ME4 comes out everyone complaining will most likely by it as with DA3 it is the way life for us gamers is, we sign petitions, write angry letters but we will all but the next one, look at the internet and the modern warfare games. I just burnned myself didn't I...Yeah I just did. We so SILLLLY

I will not buy DA3, I will borrow it from a friend with their account or rent it or borrow it from a renter.

I will not buy ME4.

You do not release an ILLEGAL PRODUCT and then expect me to go buying more ILLEGALLY INCOMPLETE PRODUCTS.

ME3 is a lot of things but definitely NOT illegal. Nope, Day 1 DLC aren't illegal either.

[Il Divo]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Vasarkian, please link us to this law you're claiming makes ME3 illegal.

Please don't encourage him.

[Heather Cline]

Bioware also said that we'd get closure and all loose ends and threads would be tied up. None of that happened. Again a lie.