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[Syfoor]

guys i dont really know if its just stating the obvious or you figured out it too, but if that dream/halucination theory is true and real endings will be in DLC, or if BW listens and will make fixed ending DLC in future, IF its not free, DONT buy it. i know we all want to see this huge problem fixed, and some would even pay for it, but I saw this as some marketing test. if BW will succeed in ,lets say, 15 USD ending DLC, soon every company will start selling games in pieces. get us hooked to game and then BAM - "please pay 15 bucks to see how this amazing game ends". thank you for reading this

[Veggiesofmanycolors]

Why should it be free? Developing a product requires time and resources which in turn require money. Gaming is not charity, this is a business and they're entitled to sell what they work for.

Just because you were not satisfied with the product you purchased before does not entitle you to get their next product for free. You don't like it, don't buy it but don't think anyone is somehow entitled to a free service now.

[nupfi]

I would defenitely buy it. Just to give the series the end it deserves!

[StabGuy]

'If' they were smart, they would have split Mass Effect 3 into episodes like Valve did with Halflife 2.

But no, they were stupid. This is the outcome of that decision.

[Planeforger]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

Why should it be free? Developing a product requires time and resources which in turn require money. Gaming is not charity, this is a business and they're entitled to sell what they work for.

I'm wondering the same thing.
Ideally it would be free to win back some of the fanbase, but realistically they'd have to cover the costs of rehiring all of the voice actors, programming a different ending for several weeks/months, possibly composing new music, playtesting, preparing it all for Xbox patches (which cost money), etc etc.

If they went ahead and just did a Fallout-esque '...and the Krogans went on to become the best ballerinas in the galaxy' slideshow, people would probably be still underwhelmed by that ending too - so if they going to revise it, they'd probably want to go the whole way, and I doubt that they're too willing to dip into their profits for that.

Modifié par Planeforger, 13 mars 2012 - 02:22 .

[Veggiesofmanycolors]

I think that if Bioware ends up making a quality DLC product then a true fan should not have an issue with buying it.

If it's crap, don't buy it. Simple as that. Bioware doesn't owe you anything though. I work as a personal trainer and every now and then a client won't like the session I give them but like Hell am I going to give them a free session just because they complain.

[sackyhack]

If they had developed the ending dlc alongside the main game and held it back, then sure it should be free. But if they spend further time and resources after release why on Earth should it be free? If it's good I will gladly pay for it.

[Front604]

I#d buy it...no matter what they charge for it. Sorry can't resist.

[brfritos]

Really? Most people will not agree with me, but if this is the end they choosed to the game, that's the end the game should have.

[Syfoor]

Im just stating my opinion that DLC with endings COULD (just a possibility) have impact on future meaning of DLC. I mean some time ago this additional continent was free, until publishers/developers figured out that we want it enough so we would buy it. What if next year games will be sold totally torn apart,in me3 case beginning/middle/end for like 2 $, then each squadmate for 2 $ and then weapons/upgrades in packs for 1-2 $. sounds like some crazy-ass-evil-EA theory, but damn, after these controversies with ME3 day-one DLC and basically stuff surrounding ME3, i dont know what to think anymore.

[benlg]

I'd Buy it just so i can stand the ending.

[Front604]

Syfoor wrote...

Im just stating my opinion that DLC with endings COULD (just a possibility) have impact on future meaning of DLC. I mean some time ago this additional continent was free, until publishers/developers figured out that we want it enough so we would buy it. What if next year games will be sold totally torn apart,in me3 case beginning/middle/end for like 2 $, then each squadmate for 2 $ and then weapons/upgrades in packs for 1-2 $. sounds like some crazy-ass-evil-EA theory, but damn, after these controversies with ME3 day-one DLC and basically stuff surrounding ME3, i dont know what to think anymore.

Don't think that that much effort would be worth the additional turnover.

[knightnblu]

While I can certainly appreciate your concerns, if BioWare offers to repair the mess at the end of ME3 I would be more than willing to pay for it. I want an ending that that makes sense and one that honors the sacrifices that Shepard has made throughout the series. To me, Shepard represents the will of humanity and the nobility and exceptionalism that can be found amongst us. I therefore believe that the current endings do him an injustice by making him an extension of the Reaper's will and a tool. In short, I see little difference between the creepy kid/AI and TIM. They are two sides of the same coin.

[suprhumn7]

Gaming websites: ...games to be shipped in pieces...mass effect 3 ushers in a new age of DLC...game companies following suit...gamers outraged!

EA: Dammit, they found out. Reaper voice - Assuming Control!

[AlexMBrennan]

Why should it be free?

Simples. Customers are angry, and if it takes free DLC to placate fans then that's what they'll do (and bill it to the PR account)

Note that BW also makes free iPad apps, free BW pulse videos and free desktop backgrounds. Further, they run these forums for free - none of this will result in extra ME3 sales but will keep the fans interested.

[Wolf]

Time, money and resources will have been spent on them. I think the endings are unsatisfactory as well but I would pay for new ones because adding these extra endings would mean more work for the team.
It doesn't matter if you're a "true fan" or whatever. What matters is if you are willing to spend money for something you consider to be better. Same principle applies to sequels or new IP's.

Modifié par Gaiden96, 13 mars 2012 - 02:56 .

[Katsumi Liqueur]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

Why should it be free? Developing a product requires time and resources which in turn require money. Gaming is not charity, this is a business and they're entitled to sell what they work for.

Because is the ****ing end. How could they sell the end apart?

[Front604]

As I mentioned in another thread: depending on how big the DLC is going to be BW will have to charge money for it or otherwise MS will not approve it for XBox Live.

[cyborg2501]

My guess is that the Ending DLC will be cheap or free for people who actually purchased the game new. Reasons? Discouraging the used game market... Also, the tweet by producer @gamblemike:
"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever."

[Doctoglethorpe]

Why should it be free? Because Bioware stand to lose A LOT of fans over this. If they charged for a better ending, that would be like putting salt in the wounds. More money temporarily? Yes. Long run? It could do serious damage.

That's not good business. Good business does not just look at todays profits, it looks towards tomorrow.

But its EA, so bad business is the expectation. Bring it on, I'll buy it. $10? $20? $100? After 5 years of investment they can destroy my wallet as much as they want if it means I get closure. Then I'll really put my money where my mouth is by cutting myself of from their loyal fanbase. For good. Never give them another dime. This is coming from somebody who has been the utmost Bioware loyalist since Kotor. I even defended them after DA2 when most did not. But this would just be too much. The final strike that takes them out of the game for me.

Or, they can give us a real epilogue with satisfying closure free of additional charge as we all expected and paid for when we bought the game in the first place, and then look forward to continue doing business with me in the future.

Now heres your big final choice Bioware, the franchise has all come down to this moment, this one decision that succeeds all others you've made. Through the door to your right, you can mend this wound. Fix what you broke and set things right again. The door to your left, you can take this opportunity to take more money out of our pockets, dangling what we want the most in front of our noses. Looks appealing, doesn't it?  You can control us, but for how long? Will the deceit and the greed last forever? Do you know? Now... there is a third option. Do what you have always done, do what you do best, ignore us. Walk straight on ahead without wavering, without even nodding our way. If we stand in front of you, hand us a convenient lie to make us step aside. It always worked before. With worried looks upon our faces we put our trust that you will do whats right despite the lies and the silence. Do you take that gamble and try it one more time with the largest stakes you've ever played?

Modifié par Doctor Moustache, 13 mars 2012 - 03:08 .

[philippe willaume]

nupfi wrote...

I would defenitely buy it. Just to give the series the end it deserves!

Dito

[Shinwolverine]

I wanted to smash my tv during the last 5 minutes of the game. Seriously its like they put a few minuted of thought into the ending and just put it out there.

And I definitly wouldnt buy ending dlc. That **** needs to be free. They really really really messed up mass effect with that one. Also if bioware wants to lose the whole "im going to nickle and dime you for ****ing everything" perception that they have nowadays they better release this for free. They may have a bigger backlash if it comes out and it isnt free then they do right now. 

Modifié par Shinwolverine, 13 mars 2012 - 03:13 .

[Snow Wolf677]

No doubt the ending DLC will be free. Why? They finished before launch, as part of Mass Effect 3.
Why was it not included in the maingame?
Because right now, we're all sitting ducks here, creating any kind of theories, just because there was no real "ending". Waiting for this end will be a completely different experience when playing it, instead of having that end outright.

One point that's against all this theory though- We can't save after we destroyed the conduit, so we'd have to play it again. (though it would also give -everyone- the chance to get the real ending)

[rabidsmurf]

 
After looking at the evidence on youtube, and my first impression of the ending, I think the dream-indoctrination theory is true. And I think that DLC is coming to verify it.  If we are correct, and an explanation is coming in the release of DLC to clarify things… this makes me feel like I paid $60 for an incomplete game.  I won’t be paying for DLC that should have been in the game.