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[kaykayhyde]

Please forgive me if this idea is way old, but I just had this epiphany.  Something caught my attention while I was playing, and I think I've got it.
Assume
they were going to release a Thane DLC.  He most likely wouldn't be a
squadmate, because of reasons.  Because he's so well-loved, chances are
he'd just hang around the ship like Traynor (and all the LIs), as
opposed to being on a planet.
Where would he go in the ship?  Well, in ME2, he hung out in Life Support.  Looking at the map of the Normandy in ME3, Life Support is the only room that's "not a room" (not numbered on the map, nor in anyone ever in there).  There's also a mug on the table, which was there in ME2.
I just find this Life Support non-room thing way too conspicuous.
Again, forgive me if I'm a week slow on this idea.

Modifié par kaykayhyde, 13 mars 2012 - 04:25 .

[thejoyrider]

It's a nice thought and I think it would make a lot of people (myself included) very happy, but I'm not holding my breath. I think the writers unfortunately forgot about Thane. (Well, I should say I KNOW they did, considering the comments one of them made about 'dropping the ball' regarding how his death was handled.)

But they certainly did give a lot of hints before ME3 that Thane had a bigger part to play and more of a story to develop (the LOTSB hints, one writer tweeting about a mission on Kahje, Hanar medigel for lungs, etc.) so here's hoping!

[Saberchic]

1st- He was in Life Support, not the AI Core when he was on the Normandy.

2nd- Have you played the game... all the way though? There's not going to be a Thane DLC, and if you've played ME3... you'll know why.

[kaykayhyde]

I meant Life Support, not sure why I said AI core. I have finished the game, but I just feel like there's way too many loose ends hanging around in general, like the things thejoyrider mentioned.

Modifié par kaykayhyde, 13 mars 2012 - 04:28 .

[clonedoriginzero]

but he flat out tells you he's medically not capable of coming with you and helping you. him helping when cerberus attacks is a miracle in itself and it took everything he had, he obviously wasn't at 100% during that.

so no, i highly doubt he'll have DLC

[lyssalu]

unfortunately this most likely won't be happening

the devs did this to every ME2 character and honestly this is like hoping that jacob would get a romance pack DLC to fix the trainwreck that was his ME3 cameo

short story is bioware was excessively lazy with these characters and did a **** job writing them and no they won't be fixing it because they don't care

the next time i hear the word "cameo" in a marketing campaign i'm going to vomit

Modifié par lyssalu, 13 mars 2012 - 04:32 .

[ShadowAussie]

thane should still get the option of living. look at jack, samara or grunt. their fights were epic they also joing the fight and don't die but why do it to thane. I understand that Mordin can pass away because of the geneophage but thane - what the hell as james vega would say. you need to make a bit of an effort for a fan favorite to last a bit longer atleast or put his son in the battle. I heard rumors kalyk would be fighting for thane and the cause in his place but its so confusing.

[Alknost]

I doubt there's a DLC planned, but I hope that Bioware creates a patch to fix the mistakes made in the Thane romance, after all the writers "Dropped the ball" with forgetting that anyone romanced him, so it would be noble of them to fix it since we're paying customers after all.

[Penguins]

I can't remember from the script, but wasn't Kahje originally going to be someplace important? There's even concept art of it, and I could have sworn early reviewers talking about snippets of the mission. So it is possible that there may be more Thane.

[Cosmochyck]

Yeah there originally was mention of Kahje - which would be awesome because perhaps we'd get more Thane time AND we could add the hanar/drell to war assets?

My poor Shep is still in Life Support weeping.

[Shepenwepet]

kaykayhyde wrote...


I just find this Life Support non-room thing way too conspicuous.

I almost wish they had've blocked off that room. Nothing ever happens in there. (minus several Shepards drowning in mugs of Hornitos Tequila.) 

Does anything ever happen in Samara's old room? Or is life support the ONLY ROOM without events?

[DHR107]

Ashley/Kaiden hang out in Samara's old room. I'm pretty sure you can find them lying on the floor off their face.

Pretty sure Life Support/AI Core room have no meaning atm.

[Shepenwepet]

DHR107 wrote...

Ashley/Kaiden hang out in Samara's old room.

Ah. I never had either on the ship. Turned Kaidan down when he wanted to come aboard.

So indeed, life support is the only room that is pointless. Odd, to say the least. I mean, you pick up a model ship, but... was an entire room needed for just that?

[EvilChani]

There won't be a Thane DLC. They didn't even consider the Shep/Thane romance to be a romance. Basically BioWare teased the Thane fans with a possible cure then pissed in our faces with his story and laughed about it by not even including him as a romance that counted as a romance. The more I think about it, the more irritated I get. Before I figured that, if they fixed the end, I could swallow the rest of this game, but the treatment we Thane fans got was too much of a slap in the face...unless they give us some Thane DLC, I'm done with BioWare and EA altogether.

[Miss Krios]

kaykayhyde wrote...

Please forgive me if this idea is way old, but I just had this epiphany.  Something caught my attention while I was playing, and I think I've got it.
Assume
they were going to release a Thane DLC.  He most likely wouldn't be a
squadmate, because of reasons.  Because he's so well-loved, chances are
he'd just hang around the ship like Traynor (and all the LIs), as
opposed to being on a planet.
Where would he go in the ship?  Well, in ME2, he hung out in Life Support.  Looking at the map of the Normandy in ME3, Life Support is the only room that's "not a room" (not numbered on the map, nor in anyone ever in there).  There's also a mug on the table, which was there in ME2.
I just find this Life Support non-room thing way too conspicuous.
Again, forgive me if I'm a week slow on this idea.

To me your confidence.

[RGC_Ines]

kaykayhyde wrote...

Please forgive me if this idea is way old, but I just had this epiphany.  Something caught my attention while I was playing, and I think I've got it.
Assume
they were going to release a Thane DLC.  He most likely wouldn't be a
squadmate, because of reasons.  Because he's so well-loved, chances are
he'd just hang around the ship like Traynor (and all the LIs), as
opposed to being on a planet.
Where would he go in the ship?  Well, in ME2, he hung out in Life Support.  Looking at the map of the Normandy in ME3, Life Support is the only room that's "not a room" (not numbered on the map, nor in anyone ever in there).  There's also a mug on the table, which was there in ME2.
I just find this Life Support non-room thing way too conspicuous.
Again, forgive me if I'm a week slow on this idea.

Add please those little things
 -save Kahje in side quest with hanar diplomat
-You can ask Anders or Hackett ( can't remember now) about Hanar&Drells homeworld, and he will say that the Reapers still didn't attack it
-dialog with doctor in hospital before Thane died, where You can ask how You can help Thane
-every little things about transplantation..
Im not certain about Thane DLC, but I have feelings, that there was a choice but it was cut off for some reason in  a final product

Modifié par RGC_Ines, 14 mars 2012 - 03:46 .

[EvanesceKunoichi]

RGC_Ines wrote...

kaykayhyde wrote...

Please forgive me if this idea is way old, but I just had this epiphany.  Something caught my attention while I was playing, and I think I've got it.
Assume
they were going to release a Thane DLC.  He most likely wouldn't be a
squadmate, because of reasons.  Because he's so well-loved, chances are
he'd just hang around the ship like Traynor (and all the LIs), as
opposed to being on a planet.
Where would he go in the ship?  Well, in ME2, he hung out in Life Support.  Looking at the map of the Normandy in ME3, Life Support is the only room that's "not a room" (not numbered on the map, nor in anyone ever in there).  There's also a mug on the table, which was there in ME2.
I just find this Life Support non-room thing way too conspicuous.
Again, forgive me if I'm a week slow on this idea.

Add please those little things
 -save Kahje in side quest with hanar diplomat
-You can ask Anders or Hackett ( can't remember now) about Hanar&Drells homeworld, and he will say that the Reapers still didn't attack it
-dialog with doctor in hospital before Thane died, where You can ask how You can help Thane
-every little things about transplantation..
Im not certain about Thane DLC, but I have feelings, that there was a choice but it was cut off for some reason in  a final product

Pointing that out it really seems like they did, but with those there they can easily add in a dlc...oh how I hope they add one.

[EvilChani]

Put this in another thread, but it's more appropriate here...


The most irritating part is that they could easily fix Thane's death via a retcon DLC. Hell, I'm writing this as a fanfic since we won't get it, but picture this (and, for those of you who played DA, remember the Liliana DLC?)...

The DLC begins with Thane's death scene. The prayer reading, Shepard checking Thane's breath to see he's dead (which was kinda creepy...at first I thought she was caressing his face, but I was corrected) and her leaving. Cut back to the room with Kolyat, looking out the window to make sure Shepard is gone, moving stealthily to Thane and pulling what looks to be a medigel from his pocket and shooting it into Thane's chest.

Thane coughs. Kolyat looks worriedly to the door, whispering to Thane that he has to be quiet. He has to get him out of there before anyone figures what's going on. He exits, tells the doc that Drell have certain burial requirements and is taking "the body" with him. He rolls out what looks to be a dead Thane, gets him to a ship and he's out of there.

From there, we see more...an email from Mordin explaining what he's learned about Kepral's syndrome, telling about the lung medigel that must be given every so often and a "contact" on Sur'Kesh that can handle the lung transplant (he already has the donor organs because it has been arranged behind the scenes...after all, Mordin knew how much Thane meant to Shepard). He gets there, finds out the doctor is missing. Kolyat leaves Thane in the care of the Salarians and goes off to find the doc, fighting what's left of the trouble the reapers (and probably Cerberus) left behind. He still can't find him...time is beginning to run out becuse the medigels will only help Thane for so long. At the last moment, he finds a half dead Salarian that was working with the doc...the doc went to Kahje...

Another Salarian suggests a mask to filter humidity from the air Thane breathes because it may slow the disease even more, in coordination withi the medigel. Kolyat thanks them, gets Thane and heads to Kahje.

Kahje is in an uproar, being attacked by a lone reaper. Kolyat has to fight a reaper (and manages to win with the big jellyfish and other drell helping), fight Cerberus, and find the doc before Thane's time runs out. He manages it, despite Kahje being devastated. He has to wait...

Cut scene to some time later, which just happens to coincide with the end of the game. Thane is up, weaker than he would be if he were fully recovered but he's our man still, and ready to find Shepard. They get to earth as the relays blow (you have to have chosen the destroy ending, and made sure that, in ME2, Thane lived!), their ship crashes. Kolyat may even die, to add weight to this and to satisfy the emo people who just absolutely have to have misery in their entertainment to be happy. Cut to Shepard's hand coming up out of the rubble, struggling to get out. A green hand takes it and pulls her/him free. Cut to controlling Shepard and have a very nice reunion, the one we wanted all along.

For the whiners who hate Thane living, it can be a Kolyat saves another drell thing and wants to get to Shepard to help because he feels he owes it or some such crap. Or they can just ignore the damned thing and go whine to themselves about how horrible it is that Thane fans are actually happy. Screw them.

[s8383783]

EvilChani wrote...

Put this in another thread, but it's more appropriate here...


The most irritating part is that they could easily fix Thane's death via a retcon DLC. Hell, I'm writing this as a fanfic since we won't get it, but picture this (and, for those of you who played DA, remember the Liliana DLC?)...

The DLC begins with Thane's death scene. The prayer reading, Shepard checking Thane's breath to see he's dead (which was kinda creepy...at first I thought she was caressing his face, but I was corrected) and her leaving. Cut back to the room with Kolyat, looking out the window to make sure Shepard is gone, moving stealthily to Thane and pulling what looks to be a medigel from his pocket and shooting it into Thane's chest.

Thane coughs. Kolyat looks worriedly to the door, whispering to Thane that he has to be quiet. He has to get him out of there before anyone figures what's going on. He exits, tells the doc that Drell have certain burial requirements and is taking "the body" with him. He rolls out what looks to be a dead Thane, gets him to a ship and he's out of there.

From there, we see more...an email from Mordin explaining what he's learned about Kepral's syndrome, telling about the lung medigel that must be given every so often and a "contact" on Sur'Kesh that can handle the lung transplant (he already has the donor organs because it has been arranged behind the scenes...after all, Mordin knew how much Thane meant to Shepard). He gets there, finds out the doctor is missing. Kolyat leaves Thane in the care of the Salarians and goes off to find the doc, fighting what's left of the trouble the reapers (and probably Cerberus) left behind. He still can't find him...time is beginning to run out becuse the medigels will only help Thane for so long. At the last moment, he finds a half dead Salarian that was working with the doc...the doc went to Kahje...

Another Salarian suggests a mask to filter humidity from the air Thane breathes because it may slow the disease even more, in coordination withi the medigel. Kolyat thanks them, gets Thane and heads to Kahje.

Kahje is in an uproar, being attacked by a lone reaper. Kolyat has to fight a reaper (and manages to win with the big jellyfish and other drell helping), fight Cerberus, and find the doc before Thane's time runs out. He manages it, despite Kahje being devastated. He has to wait...

Cut scene to some time later, which just happens to coincide with the end of the game. Thane is up, weaker than he would be if he were fully recovered but he's our man still, and ready to find Shepard. They get to earth as the relays blow (you have to have chosen the destroy ending, and made sure that, in ME2, Thane lived!), their ship crashes. Kolyat may even die, to add weight to this and to satisfy the emo people who just absolutely have to have misery in their entertainment to be happy. Cut to Shepard's hand coming up out of the rubble, struggling to get out. A green hand takes it and pulls her/him free. Cut to controlling Shepard and have a very nice reunion, the one we wanted all along.

For the whiners who hate Thane living, it can be a Kolyat saves another drell thing and wants to get to Shepard to help because he feels he owes it or some such crap. Or they can just ignore the damned thing and go whine to themselves about how horrible it is that Thane fans are actually happy. Screw them.

But..I mean it makes perfect sense for Thane to die though. It's not like it was unexpected. It was hinted at constantly...So I think its a little much to demand a whole DLC just because you don't like what happened to the character.  You knew you were romancing a terminally ill LI and are surprised when he dies? 

[Alknost]

s8383783 wrote...

But..I mean it makes perfect sense for Thane to die though. It's not like it was unexpected. It was hinted at constantly...So I think its a little much to demand a whole DLC just because you don't like what happened to the character.  You knew you were romancing a terminally ill LI and are surprised when he dies? 

I just wanted to chime in.

I expected Thane to die in ME3, yes we were warned that he was terminally ill. However, Bioware also left us the following hints that he could be cured or have his life prolonged:

1) The mention of the possibility of a lung transplant in Chakwas medical records regarding Thane.
2) The mention that Hannar scientists were working on a cure for Keprals
3) The mention of the lung-healing drug developed to help with breathing (I think this was on that news feed with the DLC for ME2) which was obviously a big hint for Thanemancers that there was a light at the end of the tunnel.

Quite Frankly this, at the very least, said to me that we'd at least have some opportunity to extend Thane's life in ME3 and continue the relationship (if romanced) and bring closure to what could have been the best romance in the game before his passing. Instead, we got nothing, no closure, no extension of his life to give us just a little bit more time to enjoy, no "I love you Thane" before he kicks the bucket, not even the paramor achievement. Sucks, don't it?

[EvilChani]

Alknost wrote...

s8383783 wrote...

But..I mean it makes perfect sense for Thane to die though. It's not like it was unexpected. It was hinted at constantly...So I think its a little much to demand a whole DLC just because you don't like what happened to the character.  You knew you were romancing a terminally ill LI and are surprised when he dies? 

I just wanted to chime in.

I expected Thane to die in ME3, yes we were warned that he was terminally ill. However, Bioware also left us the following hints that he could be cured or have his life prolonged:

1) The mention of the possibility of a lung transplant in Chakwas medical records regarding Thane.
2) The mention that Hannar scientists were working on a cure for Keprals
3) The mention of the lung-healing drug developed to help with breathing (I think this was on that news feed with the DLC for ME2) which was obviously a big hint for Thanemancers that there was a light at the end of the tunnel.

Quite Frankly this, at the very least, said to me that we'd at least have some opportunity to extend Thane's life in ME3 and continue the relationship (if romanced) and bring closure to what could have been the best romance in the game before his passing. Instead, we got nothing, no closure, no extension of his life to give us just a little bit more time to enjoy, no "I love you Thane" before he kicks the bucket, not even the paramor achievement. Sucks, don't it?

^^This. 

And for all of those saying how it "makes sense" for Thane to die, I call bull****. It's a ****ing game, which means anything can be done that the devs want to be done. Furthermore, it isn't selfish to want a DLC to fix the crap sandwich we were given for Thane's romance. No one is demanding a damned thing. Just because I won't buy anymore BioWare products unless they fix it doesn't make me evil...it means they pissed off a customer who no longer trusts their storytelling ability. That's it.

It truly amazes me that people who clearly don't give a crap about Thane and love the fact that he died (and that the "romance" was crapped on by BioWare) get all offended because some of us aren't happy and wanted to have a chance to save him via the methods BioWare teased us with. And I'm sick to death of hearing the "you knew you were romancing a terminally ill patient BLAH BLAH BLAH SHUT UP BECAUSE I'M HAPPY HE'S DEAD AND DON'T CARE IF YOU AREN'T!". Again, it's a game. And, if you want to get technical, miracles happen in real life too, so there's no reason they can't happen in a goddamned game. If people would shell out money for it, what the **** should it matter to the "YAY, THANE IS DEAD!" crowd whether it's there or not? No one is holding a ****ing gun to their heads forcing them to buy it! Ugh, why are Thane haters in these ****ing threads anyway??

[s8383783]

EvilChani wrote...

Alknost wrote...

s8383783 wrote...

But..I mean it makes perfect sense for Thane to die though. It's not like it was unexpected. It was hinted at constantly...So I think its a little much to demand a whole DLC just because you don't like what happened to the character.  You knew you were romancing a terminally ill LI and are surprised when he dies? 

I just wanted to chime in.

I expected Thane to die in ME3, yes we were warned that he was terminally ill. However, Bioware also left us the following hints that he could be cured or have his life prolonged:

1) The mention of the possibility of a lung transplant in Chakwas medical records regarding Thane.
2) The mention that Hannar scientists were working on a cure for Keprals
3) The mention of the lung-healing drug developed to help with breathing (I think this was on that news feed with the DLC for ME2) which was obviously a big hint for Thanemancers that there was a light at the end of the tunnel.

Quite Frankly this, at the very least, said to me that we'd at least have some opportunity to extend Thane's life in ME3 and continue the relationship (if romanced) and bring closure to what could have been the best romance in the game before his passing. Instead, we got nothing, no closure, no extension of his life to give us just a little bit more time to enjoy, no "I love you Thane" before he kicks the bucket, not even the paramor achievement. Sucks, don't it?

^^This. 

And for all of those saying how it "makes sense" for Thane to die, I call bull****. It's a ****ing game, which means anything can be done that the devs want to be done. Furthermore, it isn't selfish to want a DLC to fix the crap sandwich we were given for Thane's romance. No one is demanding a damned thing. Just because I won't buy anymore BioWare products unless they fix it doesn't make me evil...it means they pissed off a customer who no longer trusts their storytelling ability. That's it.

It truly amazes me that people who clearly don't give a crap about Thane and love the fact that he died (and that the "romance" was crapped on by BioWare) get all offended because some of us aren't happy and wanted to have a chance to save him via the methods BioWare teased us with. And I'm sick to death of hearing the "you knew you were romancing a terminally ill patient BLAH BLAH BLAH SHUT UP BECAUSE I'M HAPPY HE'S DEAD AND DON'T CARE IF YOU AREN'T!". Again, it's a game. And, if you want to get technical, miracles happen in real life too, so there's no reason they can't happen in a goddamned game. If people would shell out money for it, what the **** should it matter to the "YAY, THANE IS DEAD!" crowd whether it's there or not? No one is holding a ****ing gun to their heads forcing them to buy it! Ugh, why are Thane haters in these ****ing threads anyway??

First of all im not a Thane hater, I actually loved his character, and how doesn't it make sense for a character with a deadly disease to die? Seriously? Atleast the other poster actually listed some sound arguments instead of reverting to "YOUR A THANE HATER SHUT UP"
Your right it is the devs game and guess what? They wanted Thane to die. So he's dead. 
No one was offended I asked you a legitmate question. Did you really think he was going to survive? Go ahead and be pissed I really couldn't care less.  
Hopefully they'll give chicks like you some space magic so Thane will come back ! 

[EvilChani]

s8383783 wrote...

First of all im not a Thane hater, I actually loved his character, and how doesn't it make sense for a character with a deadly disease to die? Seriously? Atleast the other poster actually listed some sound arguments instead of reverting to "YOUR A THANE HATER SHUT UP" 
Your right it is the devs game and guess what? They wanted Thane to die. So he's dead. 
No one was offended I asked you a legitmate question. Did you really think he was going to survive? Go ahead and be pissed I really couldn't care less.  
Hopefully they'll give chicks like you some space magic so Thane will come back ! 

The whole "making sense" argument is utter bull****, sorry. The bottom line is the other thing you said - the devs wanted him dead so he's dead. They wanted to treat the Shepard/Thane romance as though it was nothing but a meaningless fling based solely on sex (for Shepard, at least). And that was extremely ****ty of them to do. 

As for being pissed, I'm not pissed at you personally. I'm pissed because people don't seem to accept that there could have been any other path for Thane's story other than death. That is willful blindness. Writers can do whatever they want, as proven by the magical bubble machine that cures the genophage. As proven by the annoying little god-child that provided deus ex machina to hose the ending of the game. Had they wanted Thane to live, they'd have made it happen. And the Thane fans have every right to be pissed about that. Can you not even acknowledge that instead of just jumping to "you knew what you were getting into"? You didn't seem able to, which set me off, as did your attitude that "IT IS ONLY RIGHT THAT THANE DIED SO SHUT UP!" 

This game and PMS don't mix. I shouldn't have snapped quite as much as I did, but this day is blowing chunks and discussing this crap is just irritating me further. 

Modifié par EvilChani, 14 mars 2012 - 09:40 .

[coldwetn0se]

People romance the available LI's for all kinds of reasons. I, myself, didn't romance Thane with thoughts of, "well, he's a dying man, but....) In fact, for me, Thane having Keprel's was not even a main focus. His background regarding the "Compact" (very Zevran like in a lot of ways), his spirituality and views on being an assassin, how he met his wife (great story!), how he lost his wife (and consequently his relationship with his son), made him a compelling character. Not to mention his RM (and his general intro), was Freekin' Awesome!!

Yes I was always aware of his disease, but he was NEVER defined by his disease IMO. I have had loved ones who developed terminal diseases, and not ONE of them did I ever define by their disease, nor would they have every wanted that.

Since they did give hints to life extention AND the Hanar were close to developing a cure for it, it was not unreasonable to consider a Thane that lives through ME3. What happens later, could be left up to player imagination. Choices were what we were hoping for. What we got was none COMBINED with no real romance recognition or resolution. My Shepard was already acting out of character in many of the auto-dialogue sequences, and then the way she acted with Thane was downright immersion breaking and appalling!

Agh......going to go break....err...clean the dishes. Ciao!

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