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[Ileanos07]

Well the only way to save it now is free ending DLC.... I might pay for it but... Honestly? That would be my last game from Bioware or EA. Since it would be.... Well just evil.

[Cosmar]

OP, I hope you are right and am inclined to agree with you, however the fact of the matter is that this company has produced let-down games in the past, and ME3 is not the only great game that was ruined by its developer-blessed ending.

We'll have to wait and see. I'm inclined to agree, if for no other reason than that the rest of the game was so awesomely well done that the ending as is just doesn't represent the writers' talents that went into everything else.

[Old Books]

malkuth74 wrote...

That would be given them to much credit. And would also be really stupid.

The ending is the ending it's not going to change at all.

Sooner people realize this the better.

Now they might add another option, but the end will still be the same.

I mean let's face it they still have a ton of colors to choose to use.

Cheers dude, this cracked me up. So true, though.

[recentio]

Yes, there are many people here who's minds reject the atrocious ending so strongly that they believe instead that it is a deliberate fake by BW. See: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423

[Veggiesofmanycolors]

I think the reaction to the ending is a testament to how good the rest of the game was. Had Mass Effect 3 been crap do you think we would've cared so much about the ending being bad?

The fact that Mass Effect 3 was otherwise so good is what made the poor ending so painful.

[ZodiEmish]

majormajormmajor wrote...

They aren't that clever.

But EA is

[MPSai]

It's a better thought than the lazy crap we got. But really, I don't think they did. But I would support a development of a new ending DLC using the Indoctrination Theory as a start to retcon the **** endings.

[heretica]

ZodiEmish wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

They aren't that clever.

But EA is

lol'd

[count_4]

JimJohnJim wrote...
Like I said before... All these hallucination and indoctrination theories are just people who are in denial of the real endings. The endings were that bad.

The problem is that the endings were beyond bad. There were so many huge and obvious mistakes and holes that the chances of it being deliberate are actually higher than BioWare delivering such a sloppy nonsense.

Modifié par count_4, 13 mars 2012 - 04:56 .

[Veggiesofmanycolors]

count_4 wrote...

JimJohnJim wrote...
Like I said before... All these hallucination and indoctrination theories are just people who are in denial of the real endings. The endings were that bad.

The problem is that the endings were beyond bad. There were so many huge and obvious mistakes and holes that the chances of it being deliberate are actually higher than BioWare delivering such a sloppy nonsense.

Yeah, they weren't regular bad like the Dragon Age II ending.

[Adzcriz]

OKm this has to be one of the siliest ideas ive come across on these forums latley, and thats saying something. The endings have me a little confused, wether tot ake them at face value, or perhaps theres something deeper in them i dunno what their intention was here, we will find out later, but to activley sabotage a product with such a huge following .. sorry, but this isnt SOE, Give BW some credit. Its a great game, with slightly confusing endings but a great game that i had tonnes of fun with. Silly people and their silly ideas.

[Lucubration]

The more I think about it, I can't imagine where someone would give Bioware the go-ahead to attempt something like this as a deliberate strategy. If that was even proposed, marketing and management would have to expect that the entirely foreseeable negative reaction and the impact it would have on early product reviews and media coverage would have to outweigh the perception of, "oh, what an interesting and creative idea."

In any case, we'll know within a few days here if there's any redemption planned or if this is just a serious, serious failure in the design process. Couldn't possibly leave it longer than a day or two after the global release is over with if it is by design; if it's not by design then any 'new ending' update would be more like months in coming.

Modifié par Lucubration, 13 mars 2012 - 04:59 .

[thatdude90210]

Ghurshog wrote...

Deliberately? No

They were trying to be clever and it back fired on them.

They wanted something "artsy" and it totally blew up in their faces.

It's like parents that gives they kids ridiculous names, thinking they are being clever. Sure other parents (fellow developers) pad them on the back for being imaginative. But it's the kids (gamers in this case) that has to live with the stupid names (dumb ending).

[nitefyre410]

I would hope that Bioware would not be so desperate for PR that would some marketing stunt...because if it is.. with how bad these endings were they may lose all the cred as developer they have...

[Marta Rio II]

Until Mac Walters (or whomever) explains otherwise, I'm going to assume that the endings were the result of simply being under a development crunch.  I mean, even if you were dead set on the basic idea underlying the ending (Reapers kill organics to prevent synthetics from killing organics <_<), the ending is still missing a lot of critical details, and includes a cut-and-paste montage, rather than unique cutscenes for each of your choices.  I can't see how that's due to anything else other than being limited by time/money.

So when all these people are like "Bioware should stick to their guns, and change nothing!!!!" I wonder if this was indeed the ending that the developers actually wanted us to have all along.  Maybe they really did want something bigger and better, but they just didn't have the time/resources to implement it. 

Modifié par Marta Rio II, 13 mars 2012 - 05:01 .

[Veggiesofmanycolors]

Honestly, I don't think Bioware is even going to address this issue. They don't care.

[Tup3x]

I sure feel surreal to see this kind of IP destroying. They did it in 10 minutes. Sequel is not possible and prequels feel hollow if they ever do 'em with this kind of ending.

[Eyeshield21]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

It's typically not good business sense to admit you're wrong. Bioware will stand by their ending because they don't want to admit they're screw ups.

The best we can hope for is that Bioware will at least expand upon the ending in a future DLC. Bioware is a business though, not a charity. If we're to have any hope of that then we have to show that we'd be willing to pay for it, that is the only way our voices matter.

No way are they going to completely re-write the ending though.

Um, ever heard the phrase "voting with your wallet?"(directed at the last sentence) Worked for Firefly and Family Guy, people bought the dvds and they got a Firefly movie and Family Guy is still around today. Trust me(and EA probably planned this, I don't know, but still a possiblity), you fork up the money and they will do wonders for you, as long as you fork up the money. Hate to say it, but it always works. And unfortunately, it will most likely work work, since so many of us are pissed off and/or sad and confused.  Myself included.

Modifié par Eyeshield21, 13 mars 2012 - 05:03 .

[Kritonn]

Seems that everythings been said. Just cant believe (denial) that was the climax of one of the greatest games Ive played. Finished a few days ago and have absolutely no desire to replay any of the series anytime soon or in the future.

[Nefelius]

I believe this has something to do with the terrible word "Deadline". 
Ea likes this word veeeeeeery much.

Modifié par Nefelius, 13 mars 2012 - 05:20 .

[wesr]

If this isn't a marketing move to sell the DLC then they might as well kiss their business goodbye because this much bad press is going to hurt sales overseas and of anything they make in the future. This is a big blunder like Square making the Final fantasy: spirits within movie. We all know that ended with square shutting down an entire branch due to the financial losses. This will be remembered in business schools up there with New Coke as things that you shouldn't do.

[Luigitornado]

People are in denial.

[hismastersvoice]

I do not believe the intentionally sabotaged their product. However, miscalculations do happen. Perhaps they did not anticipate the amount of backlash this would cause.