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[Dranks]

Pretty sure James, and EVERYONE aboard, would be used to the ship noises by now. He was hearing something that stood out to him. Something foreign.

[Exicuren]

Sareth Cousland wrote...

Sharkey1337 wrote...

Yeah, and there's that mention of adrenaline proving to be the best catalyst in inducing indoctrination. Scene where Shepard is rushing to the beam and gets shot by Harbinger? Adrenaline pumping through the roof, thus making Shepard very susceptible.

That's a very good point too, and none that people have raised so far. So in ME3 it is revealed that:

1. Parts of sovereign were used in the construction of the new Normandy
2. Adrenaline supports indoctrination

Seriously... why reveal things like that in ME3 unless you want to do something with them?

You forgot the massive ammount of stress that shepard had the entire final part of the game, another thing that could help is a line that shep says: "I want the catalyst".

Modifié par Exicuren, 26 mars 2012 - 08:47 .

[Vhalkyrie]

I heard him say it in my game. I started looking around the cargo hold. People dismiss it as normal engine noise, but I still think it was an odd statement for random chatter. The way he says, "Do you hear that humming? Is that just me?" indicates that he at least thinks it is unusual.

[Hunter_Wolf]

 I'm still trying to figure out what humming it's referring to. When you first board the Normandy 2, EDI's AI core makes a hum. The drive core  in engineering always made a hum. So where about on the ship is this hum being heard? I could never find it.

[Tiax Rules All]

Its not engine noise.

To be the most diplomatic here. Even if IDT is not proven true. this comment could be left over from a time where they were still flirting with the idea of going that way.

[Kyrick]

It's not 'odd'. Vega is an imbecilic steroid popping buffoon. He probably hears 'humming' as a result of some sort of medical condition resulting from all the steroids he's no doubt been taking to achieve such an absurd physique.

The only thing at all remotely a mystery about this particular comment is why he didn't use some random spanish word for 'humming'. It seems that is his particular schtick on the ship; to be the token 'ethnic guy'.

[FellishBeast]

Kyrick wrote...

It's not 'odd'. Vega is an imbecilic steroid popping buffoon. He probably hears 'humming' as a result of some sort of medical condition resulting from all the steroids he's no doubt been taking to achieve such an absurd physique.

The only thing at all remotely a mystery about this particular comment is why he didn't use some random spanish word for 'humming'. It seems that is his particular schtick on the ship; to be the token 'ethnic guy'.

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[Niemack Saarinen]

You'd think Edi would be able to pick up on it being in a mech body and all as well as the ship itself, she even has olfactory senses, im sure she could pick up on even the most minimal sound sources and screen them.

[FellishBeast]

Niemack Saarinen wrote...

You'd think Edi would be able to pick up on it being in a mech body and all as well as the ship itself, she even has olfactory senses, im sure she could pick up on even the most minimal sound sources and screen them.

Indoctrination is a mental thing. I'm sure she wouldn't be able to pick up on it. It could have even been specific to Vega at that point. "Is it just me?" Yes, it might just be.

[dfstone]

Aren't Shepherd's implants Reaper tech?

[Fingertrip]

Yes they are.

[pfeenix]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Its not engine noise.

To be the most diplomatic here. Even if IDT is not proven true. this comment could be left over from a time where they were still flirting with the idea of going that way.

Valid point. 

I'm on my third playthrough now and have just officially gotten it on all of them (and I usually get it a few times each playthrough). First time I heard it my mind immediately jumped to indoc for poor Mr. Vega. I was so upset. Seems a little weird that Vega would get it before, say, Garrus, Tali, Joker, or Chackwas, even (Shep I can understand) if it was some reaper tech on the ship, though. Just saying. 

That said,

count_4 wrote...

Sons Of Liberty wrote...
You hear the hum everywhere (on the ship) according to many many post if you listen close enough.

Well, it's a ship after all, of course there are constant noises (which are referenced by Tali and Chakwas in the previous games).
So it doesn't have to mean anything. But it very well could and I certainly hope it does (there's that EIP again...).

I call bull. Tali distinctly comments on how quiet both the SR1 and SR2 are, so unless the Alliance screwed something up during the retrofit (which, to be fair, obviously wasn't finished, what? with wires everywhere trying to trip me <_<)...

[Dranks]

I will say I played some ME2 yesterday and then threw in ME3 after. The Normandy in ME2 was completely silent unless you were in engineering. It is so loud in ME3. May just be an alliance tech thing but I don't know. SPECULATIONS

[liggy002]

daqs wrote...

GHernandez18 wrote...

I think I remember hearing that humming line... Not sure after what mission though

You can hear it after multiple missions. It's one of Vega's "I've got nothing more to say" comments, like Garrus' "Maybe later." and Liara's "Ready for the next mission?"

So what. That doesn't mean that the line doesn't hold significance.  Have you ever thought that they don't want you to think that the line is significant by making it seem like one of the unimportant lines?

Modifié par liggy002, 03 avril 2012 - 09:22 .

[Laurencio]

I hate to state the obvious, but the guy is in the shuttle bay. I would imagine hearing humming isn't the most unusual thing he could be hearing.

[Sal86]

When exactly does he say this? is it perhaps after a missions when he could have been close to a loud explosion for example? (I have no idea, just throwing it out there.)

[Laurencio]

Sal86 wrote...

When exactly does he say this? is it perhaps after a missions when he could have been close to a loud explosion for example? (I have no idea, just throwing it out there.)

He says it while standing in the shuttle bay, one of those "I don't really have anything to say" comments.

[Kelwing]

Many little odd noises can be heard while on the Normandy. Vega seems to only mention the humming when in systems that have Reapers. I have yet to hear him say that when in systems that don't have Reapers.

Modifié par Kelwing, 03 avril 2012 - 09:40 .

[DarkShadow]

Yeah, that line from Vega made me curious. However, it was never addressed again, so I forgot about it until I heard about the indoctrination theory.

More and more, I get the feeling that a few of the writers were going for indoctrination, while the lead writer and others discarded this completely to go for their ending.

[sorentoft]

Nineteen wrote...

He said that to me, too. Several times. I freaked out the first time he mentioned it. The exact line is: "Do you hear that humming? Or is that just me?"

It's very suspicious that BioWare would go out of their way to put this line in the game.

Yeah I mean. Humming on a ship. What gives?

[pfeenix]

sorentoft wrote...

Nineteen wrote...

He said that to me, too. Several times. I freaked out the first time he mentioned it. The exact line is: "Do you hear that humming? Or is that just me?"

It's very suspicious that BioWare would go out of their way to put this line in the game.

Yeah I mean. Humming on a ship. What gives?

yeah, but a ship known for it's quietness? it's a little suspicious. 

[Dunmer of Redoran]

pfeenix wrote...

sorentoft wrote...

Nineteen wrote...

He said that to me, too. Several times. I freaked out the first time he mentioned it. The exact line is: "Do you hear that humming? Or is that just me?"

It's very suspicious that BioWare would go out of their way to put this line in the game.

Yeah I mean. Humming on a ship. What gives?

yeah, but a ship known for it's quietness? it's a little suspicious. 

It wouldn't be suspicious if not for the fact that an obscure throwaway one-liner from Kaidan on the Citadel in ME1 forshadows the ending to that game, where the Mass Relay statue was a mass relay, or more specifically, the Conduit.

That such a line had such consequences makes the line from ME3 that much weirder, because it seems like another throwaway line, but an equally foreshadow-y one.

[rachellouise]

I heard him say that. Kept going down there to make sure the crew were still alive.. I wanted shepard to get her gun out and just act like she always has it out .

Weird that protheans even had to rely on VIs to try and detect indoctrination, thought they would be able to see the persons thoughts/feelings etc by touching them

[Chaoswind]

wow you people... I don't know... oh dude...

[Creston918]

Duraiden wrote...

If you go to the loading bay of the Ship there is a humming that you can hear which sounds like the Reapers, I imagine that the sound guys probably used the same sound effect for the sound of the ship engine.

And this is the problem with the whole indoctrination theory. It all sounds good, because everything after you get hit by Harby's beam is stuff that Shepard recognizes from before, and thus would indicate that he's dreaming / hallucinating.

Yet this is a game where the ending obviously feels rushed (and considering the fact that they were still WRITING the damn thing by late November 2011, it's a pretty clear sign that it WAS rushed), so a more logical explanation is that the art department just re-used assets.

Hey, if EAware is smart, they'll jump on the Indoctrination theory and pretend like it was theirs all along (it wasn't.)
Instead, they are arrogant, so they'll put a few extra lines in the ending and frown disapprovingly when everyone says the endings still suck.