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[rachellouise]

I was expecting someone on my team to be indoctrinated in this game, so that's probably why I thought it was happening to him when he said that

Modifié par rachellouise, 03 avril 2012 - 10:19 .

[Tleining]

DaftArbiter wrote...


It wouldn't be suspicious if not for the fact that an obscure throwaway one-liner from Kaidan on the Citadel in ME1 forshadows the ending to that game, where the Mass Relay statue was a mass relay, or more specifically, the Conduit.

That such a line had such consequences makes the line from ME3 that much weirder, because it seems like another throwaway line, but an equally foreshadow-y one.

yeah, except the humming from the Relay Monument was caused by the Eezo Core inside of it. The Normandy has a massive Eezo Core, so if Vega is hearing a humming... maybe it's just a reference to ME1?

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I thought it was my dog

[Lextra]

it is liara's washmachine

[ckolsen]

Creston918 wrote...

Hey, if EAware is smart, they'll jump on the Indoctrination theory and pretend like it was theirs all along (it wasn't.)
Instead, they are arrogant, so they'll put a few extra lines in the ending and frown disapprovingly when everyone says the endings still suck.

Hehe, so not matter what they do, you will hate them :-)

[StarGateGod]

It was odd when i first heard him say it i actually went around looking for a conduit that someone installed since that what kaiden  said in ME1 at prothean artwork.. When i didnt find any i fiqured it would be brought up later in the game as a  plot point, but if it was i missed it. I didnt hear anyone else on the ship say that though.
EDI as a possible source for indoc would be a very intereting idea would have been cool to see how it would have played on if it had been made in the game.
However i dont think it was the engine Vega has been on alot of ships so id assume he would know what a ship sounds like and wouldnt feel the need to comment on it

[XINVADER]

It's not too much of a stretch to believe that all the reaper tech in the normandy/EDI/shepard would have had some sort of effect.

[PRC_Heavy_Z]

Or it's the fact that he's in the shuttle bay, close to the drive core and other shuttles.

[Ravennus]

Or it could be... that there is an actual throbbing hum in the cargo bay.

Really. Turn up your audio. It's not hard to hear.

That's all he's talking about.

[Alchemist4]

I'm sure it's nothing. I hear humming everytime I go to the shuttle bay. BioWare probably threw in that line to get you paranoid.

Here is a video of the shuttle bay and engine room
www.youtube.com/watch

[Atrumitos]

Why would James mention it though? I never blamed indoctrination for it and still don't but it's just a weird thing to say. Unless ofc James is afraid of indoctrination and he feels he should ask, when he's just hearing the noise.

Oh and the VI in the end does say something like "Security measures have been disabled, I will comply" when you ask about the catalyst. It could mean "I wouldn't answer you otherwise, since you're indoctrinated, but my security is down so yeah I'll tell you". Or it could mean nothing at all...

[Dark_Caduceus]

Anyone mention feeling watched or hearing a hum other than Vega?

[Yearlongjester]

Arl Raylen wrote...

Sons Of Liberty wrote...

You hear the hum everywhere (on the ship) according to many many post if you listen close enough.

So maybe those indoctrination theories really do have credence. Though still doesn't explain lack of indoctrination detected on Thessia.

Prothean tech was able to give a Yes/No response to Indoctrination. The theory holds that Shepard wasn't fully indoctrinated yet, that he was still in the gradual process of it and the Ending after he got hit by the beam was the final push towards full Indoctrination. Prothean's couldn't tell whether or not you were in the process of being indoctrinated, hence why sleeper agents were able to do so much damage to their empire.

[Burneye Is God]

ChaosMarky wrote...

There's a lot of humming inside the normandy, so most of the crew should have gotten used to it by now...

but for james to point it out? definitely suspicious.. :0

Edit: Yes, james pointed the "humming" thing in my game

wasen't vega meant to be indronated in the early draft and gets into a fight with edi???

[EkinJWZ]

I suggest you all watch this vid.
It's long, but it explains every detail about Indoctrination, and that it could very well be real
It also includes James hearing humming

Modifié par EkinJWZ, 09 avril 2012 - 12:21 .

[DraCZeQQ]

Oh look another IT thread, emergency induction port grasping at it's finest ...

EDIT: How could anyone jump from only JAMES hearing HUMMING to only SHEPPARD being indoctrinated, is beyond me ...

Modifié par DraCZeQQ, 09 avril 2012 - 12:36 .

[Prosarian]

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Oh look another IT thread, emergency induction port grasping at it's finest ...

EDIT: How could anyone jump from only JAMES hearing HUMMING to only SHEPPARD being indoctrinated, is beyond me ...

Someone said that?

[CGramn]

In ME1, if you go by the surprise relay on the Citadel Presidium with Kaidan, he'll actually say "Is it just me, or do you hear a faint hum" or something similar to that.

[PsyrenY]

Emergency induction ports being grabbed everywhere

[NM_Che56]

If humming is a symptom of indoctrination attempts, then why is Vega hearing them if the theory is that Shepard is being indoctrindated? Shouldn't Shepard be complaining about it?

[TempoGTR]

Master Che wrote...

If humming is a symptom of indoctrination attempts, then why is Vega hearing them if the theory is that Shepard is being indoctrindated? Shouldn't Shepard be complaining about it?

Yes, I realize this is an old thread.

Anyways, no one has pointed out that Vega is the ONLY new member aboard the Normandy, is he not? Shepard, Joker, all of Shepard's squadmates have been aboard before and all probably have some small level of indoctrination.

Even the new Normandy crew has been working on the ship for months since Shepard was grounded. Traynor even specifically says that she is only on board because she was working on the ship when the Reapers hit. Vega is literally the only person "new" to the ship and therefore hasn't been exposed to the (theoretical) indoctrination yet. It would make sense that he would notice it while everyone else is used to/no longer notices the humming/indoctrination.

And no, I don't count Javik. He's a DLC character. He gets written off just like Zaeed/Kasumi when it comes to canon.

While I would like to believe in IT, I'm not fully convinced. This line did mess with me a bit though. I searched every corner of the cargo bay the first time I heard this, then ignored it each time afterwards. Thought maybe there was a stowaway onboard similar to KOTOR, but didn't find one

[skiadopsendow]

[Geomon19]

Ravennus wrote...

Or it could be... that there is an actual throbbing hum in the cargo bay.

Really. Turn up your audio. It's not hard to hear.

That's all he's talking about.

This. I have a pretty capable surround sound system and it's quite clear on audio.

Modifié par Geomon19, 25 avril 2012 - 12:39 .

[Shallyah]

The Normandy might be emitting indoctrination signals somehow. Part of it was built with Reaper tech, wasn't it? Just like Kaidan notices when you talk to him near the Mass Relay monument in the Citadel in the original ME.

It doesn't have to mean that anyone is indoctrinated, but probably the crew is exposed to it while on the Normandy, even if subtly.

[wolfstanus]

The thing is you can be in the process of being indoctrinated and still have free will. Cerberus have no free will thus fully indoctrinated. The vi may only be able to detect those who are fully under reaper controle.