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[ELITE_CMDR_666]

BP20125810 wrote...

The fact that VEGA hears it shouldn't be used as evidence for SHEPARD's indoctrination.

to me its not a shepard indoctrination that im worried is vega, but is shepard can hear it as well what does that mean. i would hate to think that someone in my ship is being indoctrinated, if i had a choice i would kill vega where he stands lol just to be safe...

[Lord Goose]

The VI probably wasnt that sensitive, or was a little 'rusty' after 50,000 years.

He sensed that Kai Leng was indoctrinated. Even though he was claiming that he is fighting for humanity and such.

but is shepard can hear it as well what does that mean

Usually different people can't hear hallucinations.

[Rockstarblunt]

Why's everyone so quick to dismiss Vega's hum comment with the engines?


It is also said in Mass Effect 1 by kaiden near the relay monument:

"Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle"


so references of low humming noises From ME1, to ME3, also explained in codex of indoctrination?

Put 2 and 2 together here.

[Dark_Caduceus]

simfamSP wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

ELITE_CMDR_666 wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Kaidan Alenko near the Relay Monument...

Anyone else hear that low hum?

That monument turned out to be the doorway from Illos to the Citadel...

You mean two characters in a 100+ hour gaming series have noticed Mass Effect technology has a hum?

Holy ****, I.T is true!

It's called bad writing. Even if I.T is true, the writing for the series sucks.

The corruption in this god awful game goes much deeper than the endings.

god awful game? you my young child are from reaper decent lol, i have played many games and there is not game out there like ME that has such story twist and speculation in it....stop being a ME-HATER 

Story twists and speculation don't make a good piece of fiction unless they're employed properly. Ernest Hemmingway used speculation really effectively in "The Snows of Kilimonjaro", the writing team for ME2 and ME3 just suck ass.

I'm not an ME hater, I loved Mass Effect 1, it's to this day perhaps my favourite video game ever, flaws included. After that the story went down hill and was so bad it retroactively destroyed the love I had for ME1.

Well... GTFO!

Seriously, its hard enough to read every hater's excuse to dissect and tear the game apart, in order to find the tiniest hole and stretch it open like a tight little ****. But when you hate a game since it's prequel, a man might start to think that you're here to cause grief.

There are plenty of forums who hate this series. The Witcher 2's and RPG Codex are probably amongst them. Go share your opinions there where everybody would agree with you. Sure your inclined to do so here, you have every right. But so do I.

Well, I'm sure you have a constitutional right to tell me to "Get the **** out" of this forum, but it's probably against site rules and it makes you seem like an immature little nerd virgin.

I'm not here to bash the game, I'm here to discuss the game and share my views. I loved the series which is why I'm still on this site, because the Mass Effect series had so much potential and ended up being a disspointing pile of trash.

I don't even understand what a "hater" is, somebody who disagrees with you in a poltie manner?

I'm sharing my opinions on this site because I feel it's productive for others to see them, and I might be positively influenced by hearing their opinions in turn. That's the benefit of argumentation, it leads to knowledge. I'm not going to go to some other website to hear people agree with me because i'm not an insecure narcissist that needs to feel approved of.

Go ahead and disagree with my if you want, I'm sure lots of people do. Just try to actually adress my argument and not my character next time.

[Dark_Caduceus]

Rockstarblunt wrote...


Why's everyone so quick to dismiss Vega's hum comment with the engines?


It is also said in Mass Effect 1 by kaiden near the relay monument:

"Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle"


so references of low humming noises From ME1, to ME3, also explained in codex of indoctrination?

Put 2 and 2 together here.

Two references to a type of technology humming in the entire franchise isn't compelling proof. You can put two and two together and say, "Mass Effect technology must hum" but not "Because two characters hear humming around Mass Effect technology it must be trying to idnoctrinate them, and therefore the Indoctrination Hypothesis is true". that's a huge leap of logic.

[Rolenka]

See, this is why I blew up the Collector base. You can't control Reaper tech. It's like the Borg. Some little nanoprobe somewhere always starts assimilating things and contacting the Collective.

[Rockstarblunt]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...


Why's everyone so quick to dismiss Vega's hum comment with the engines?


It is also said in Mass Effect 1 by kaiden near the relay monument:

"Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle"


so references of low humming noises From ME1, to ME3, also explained in codex of indoctrination?

Put 2 and 2 together here.

Two references to a type of technology humming in the entire franchise isn't compelling proof. You can put two and two together and say, "Mass Effect technology must hum" but not "Because two characters hear humming around Mass Effect technology it must be trying to idnoctrinate them, and therefore the Indoctrination Hypothesis is true". that's a huge leap of logic.

Your actually arguing me with this? Mine is backed up by evidence from codex entry of indotrincation of humming noises. Those 2 characteres had mentioned those specific noises for a reason.

Your logic = all mass effect technology has a hum noise to it.
Where did you get that from!?!?

[ELITE_CMDR_666]

simfamSP wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

ELITE_CMDR_666 wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Kaidan Alenko near the Relay Monument...

Anyone else hear that low hum?

That monument turned out to be the doorway from Illos to the Citadel...

You mean two characters in a 100+ hour gaming series have noticed Mass Effect technology has a hum?

Holy ****, I.T is true!

It's called bad writing. Even if I.T is true, the writing for the series sucks.

The corruption in this god awful game goes much deeper than the endings.

god awful game? you my young child are from reaper decent lol, i have played many games and there is not game out there like ME that has such story twist and speculation in it....stop being a ME-HATER 

Story twists and speculation don't make a good piece of fiction unless they're employed properly. Ernest Hemmingway used speculation really effectively in "The Snows of Kilimonjaro", the writing team for ME2 and ME3 just suck ass.

I'm not an ME hater, I loved Mass Effect 1, it's to this day perhaps my favourite video game ever, flaws included. After that the story went down hill and was so bad it retroactively destroyed the love I had for ME1.

Well... GTFO!

Seriously, its hard enough to read every hater's excuse to dissect and tear the game apart, in order to find the tiniest hole and stretch it open like a tight little ****. But when you hate a game since it's prequel, a man might start to think that you're here to cause grief.

There are plenty of forums who hate this series. The Witcher 2's and RPG Codex are probably amongst them. Go share your opinions there where everybody would agree with you. Sure your inclined to do so here, you have every right. But so do I.

really? GTFO everyone has an opinion but telling someone GTFO is so MATURE right...( NOT ) if you dont like what anyone says all because your stuck up on your own views then dont say nothing at all. everyone has there own opinion and is entitled to it who are you to say what is wrong and right, to then saying GTFO all because your not mature enough to understand...to you i say GTFO if you dont like what anyone has to say...so grow up kid cause the world does not revolve on you...

[mass perfection]

Remember Haestroms sun?

[sydranark]

Nothing is ever included in a story for no reason. Authors, directors, game designers have a method behind their madness. They had to go out of their way to have Vega's voice actor say those lines. For what? There has to be some meaning behind it. The only theory that explains it as of yet, is Indoctrination Theory

[Dark_Caduceus]

Rockstarblunt wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...


Why's everyone so quick to dismiss Vega's hum comment with the engines?


It is also said in Mass Effect 1 by kaiden near the relay monument:

"Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle"


so references of low humming noises From ME1, to ME3, also explained in codex of indoctrination?

Put 2 and 2 together here.

Two references to a type of technology humming in the entire franchise isn't compelling proof. You can put two and two together and say, "Mass Effect technology must hum" but not "Because two characters hear humming around Mass Effect technology it must be trying to idnoctrinate them, and therefore the Indoctrination Hypothesis is true". that's a huge leap of logic.

Your actually arguing me with this? Mine is backed up by evidence from codex entry of indotrincation of humming noises. Those 2 characteres had mentioned those specific noises for a reason.

Your logic = all mass effect technology has a hum noise to it.
Where did you get that from!?!?

I make my inference from the fact that  Mass Effect drive cores and relays hum, and the characters mention humming when around these objects. Your inference is only valid assuming that humming noises in the Mass Effect universe are caused by indoctrination and nothing else. The Mako makes humming noises, by the train of thought you're suggesting the Mako must also be indoctrinating people.

[Lord Goose]

So did Kai-Leng ever claimed that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3jImIxR4OEk#t=338s

Yeup. Sort of.

Saren claimed many positive outlooks for the future, but that didn't stop him from turning into Sovreign's vassal.

The point I'm trying to make is that Prothean VI can sense Reaper tech, even though Indoctrinated do not realise what he is under Reapers influence. Considering that it didn't react to Shepard and Vega...

[Lord Goose]

The only theory that explains it as of yet, is Indoctrination Theory

Fine. I propose "Vega is indoctrinated" theory. Better?
Where would be story about him called Paragon Lost. 
Rings a bell?

Modifié par Lord Goose, 02 juin 2012 - 08:52 .

[Rockstarblunt]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...


Why's everyone so quick to dismiss Vega's hum comment with the engines?


It is also said in Mass Effect 1 by kaiden near the relay monument:

"Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle"


so references of low humming noises From ME1, to ME3, also explained in codex of indoctrination?

Put 2 and 2 together here.

Two references to a type of technology humming in the entire franchise isn't compelling proof. You can put two and two together and say, "Mass Effect technology must hum" but not "Because two characters hear humming around Mass Effect technology it must be trying to idnoctrinate them, and therefore the Indoctrination Hypothesis is true". that's a huge leap of logic.

Your actually arguing me with this? Mine is backed up by evidence from codex entry of indotrincation of humming noises. Those 2 characteres had mentioned those specific noises for a reason.

Your logic = all mass effect technology has a hum noise to it.
Where did you get that from!?!?

I make my inference from the fact that  Mass Effect drive cores and relays hum, and the characters mention humming when around these objects. Your inference is only valid assuming that humming noises in the Mass Effect universe are caused by indoctrination and nothing else. The Mako makes humming noises, by the train of thought you're suggesting the Mako must also be indoctrinating people.

Ah close, but who built the Mass relays? AH! Reapers. AHH! now you get it!!! Now theres a link to why it makes those humming noises, and why its referenced to indoctrination codex.

Btw, even if you try to disprove whats your take on the codex entry of Ind, and the low hum noise?

[Dark_Caduceus]

Rockstarblunt wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...


Why's everyone so quick to dismiss Vega's hum comment with the engines?


It is also said in Mass Effect 1 by kaiden near the relay monument:

"Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle"


so references of low humming noises From ME1, to ME3, also explained in codex of indoctrination?

Put 2 and 2 together here.

Two references to a type of technology humming in the entire franchise isn't compelling proof. You can put two and two together and say, "Mass Effect technology must hum" but not "Because two characters hear humming around Mass Effect technology it must be trying to idnoctrinate them, and therefore the Indoctrination Hypothesis is true". that's a huge leap of logic.

Your actually arguing me with this? Mine is backed up by evidence from codex entry of indotrincation of humming noises. Those 2 characteres had mentioned those specific noises for a reason.

Your logic = all mass effect technology has a hum noise to it.
Where did you get that from!?!?

I make my inference from the fact that  Mass Effect drive cores and relays hum, and the characters mention humming when around these objects. Your inference is only valid assuming that humming noises in the Mass Effect universe are caused by indoctrination and nothing else. The Mako makes humming noises, by the train of thought you're suggesting the Mako must also be indoctrinating people.

Ah close, but who built the Mass relays? AH! Reapers. AHH! now you get it!!! Now theres a link to why it makes those humming noises, and why its referenced to indoctrination codex.

Btw, even if you try to disprove whats your take on the codex entry of Ind, and the low hum noise?

The codex entry stands. It seems you're suggesting that the relays, MAKO, and every drive core in the galaxy have indoctrination potential because they all hum and they're all based of Reaper technology? That seems... insane.

[ELITE_CMDR_666]

ok everyone can say what they want but no one still can explain why is there a reaper sound like in the docking bay of the ship...thats the real question and to why that noise is down there, not to mention why that vega hears it...

[Lord Goose]

[quote]thats the real question and to why that noise is down there, not to mention why that vega hears it...[/quote]

[quote]Fine. I propose "Vega is indoctrinated" theory. Better?
Where would be story about him called Paragon Lost. And what would be story how Vega abandoned his own team to get the Collector's artifact.
Rings a bell?[quote]

[ELITE_CMDR_666]

Rockstarblunt wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Rockstarblunt wrote...


Why's everyone so quick to dismiss Vega's hum comment with the engines?


It is also said in Mass Effect 1 by kaiden near the relay monument:

"Anyone else hear that low hum? Sounds like it's coming from that statue. Makes my teeth tingle"


so references of low humming noises From ME1, to ME3, also explained in codex of indoctrination?

Put 2 and 2 together here.

Two references to a type of technology humming in the entire franchise isn't compelling proof. You can put two and two together and say, "Mass Effect technology must hum" but not "Because two characters hear humming around Mass Effect technology it must be trying to idnoctrinate them, and therefore the Indoctrination Hypothesis is true". that's a huge leap of logic.

Your actually arguing me with this? Mine is backed up by evidence from codex entry of indotrincation of humming noises. Those 2 characteres had mentioned those specific noises for a reason.

Your logic = all mass effect technology has a hum noise to it.
Where did you get that from!?!?

I make my inference from the fact that  Mass Effect drive cores and relays hum, and the characters mention humming when around these objects. Your inference is only valid assuming that humming noises in the Mass Effect universe are caused by indoctrination and nothing else. The Mako makes humming noises, by the train of thought you're suggesting the Mako must also be indoctrinating people.

Ah close, but who built the Mass relays? AH! Reapers. AHH! now you get it!!! Now theres a link to why it makes those humming noises, and why its referenced to indoctrination codex.

Btw, even if you try to disprove whats your take on the codex entry of Ind, and the low hum noise?

its not just any humming noise, like i said you have to either have you tv real loud or have a headset that has surroung sound so you can hear the differance, i my self am using the PS3 surround sound headset and i can truly see a differance in the humming from the engines and the sound from below in the armory. so please stop saying its the engine or relays get some headsets and see for your self 

[gmboy902]

Vertrucio wrote...

Just Vega. People are making it out to be more than it is.

The entire indoctrination theory.

[Xellith]

Id just like to point out that you as shepard can hear the hum. I believe its part of his dialogue. You can actually hear the buzz/hum sound yourself.

[Jassu1979]

Bioware can be pretty subtle and oblique in their writing if they want to be.

Remember how they told us about the fate of Joker's sister? It was very easy to miss that one.