Aller au contenu

Photo

March 13 Balance Changes Posted


438 réponses à ce sujet

#1
Eric Fagnan

Eric Fagnan
  • BioWare Employees
  • 561 messages
I've posted the latest balance changes to the sticky thread. These changes are now live.

http://social.biowar...44143/1#9660503

Modifié par Eric Fagnan, 13 mars 2012 - 06:13 .


#2
Guest_Aotearas_*

Guest_Aotearas_*
  • Guests
Hmm, I take it the Geth were made a tad tougher. I like it! ... My purse does not.

#3
MEMANIAsama

MEMANIAsama
  • Members
  • 447 messages
Nerfed Geth Farming. Made a few guns better. Cool story bro.

#4
nukular power

nukular power
  • Members
  • 268 messages
Why is there no "added Geth hoppers" note???

#5
AreleX

AreleX
  • Members
  • 2 292 messages
and let this be a lesson to you all: cry long enough, loud enough, and you can ruin things for everybody.

quarian infiltrator was pretty fun while it lasted. back to everyone playing salarian now.

#6
JChaos

JChaos
  • Members
  • 171 messages
Son of a... and I JUST unlocked the Quarian Infiltrator, too.

#7
We Tigers

We Tigers
  • Members
  • 960 messages
Eric, why'd you guys spank the vindicator on both damage and encumbrance? It was one of very few truly low weight assault rifles that caster classes could use without a big penalty. I could understand tweaking one of those factors, but undercutting both makes the gun pretty weak.

#8
Guest_Aotearas_*

Guest_Aotearas_*
  • Guests

AreleX wrote...

and let this be a lesson to you all: cry long enough, loud enough, and you can ruin things for everybody.

quarian infiltrator was pretty fun while it lasted. back to everyone playing salarian now.



Don't know how it turns out and probably can't know until I finally unlock the Quarian Winfiltrator, but a base cooldown of 14 seconds will still let you spam Sabotage every couple of seconds if you keep your equipment lightweight and I reckon all those Geth unit buffs do counteract the Sabotage debuffs quite evenly.

Enough for them to still wreck the Geth faction on Gold I'd presume.

#9
Father Alvito

Father Alvito
  • Members
  • 622 messages
Requires testing to see just how large of a nerf this is.

At first glance it really doesn't look that bad for Gold. I mean, you already were alternating hacks on the Primes to maximize lockdown duration, yes? The various mooks never were the threat, so buffing them marginally shouldn't break the approach in principle.

#10
Phatose

Phatose
  • Members
  • 1 079 messages
Welp, back to hunting Cerberus.

#11
Heather Cline

Heather Cline
  • Members
  • 2 822 messages
I believe there is some problems with unlocks still. There aren't any customization packs dropping for unlocked characters. Like patterns, skin colors for Asari and other aliens with faces. Color changes for Lights and so on. I've been playing MP on and off and earning quite a bit of credits. I've bought several Spectre packs, Veteran packs and even Recruit packs and all I usually get are either exp boosts, weapons or a character unlock but no customization packs for armor and skin or lights. Only ones that get lights, patterns and armor stuff seems to be soldiers or Vanguards. Everyone else I have for options don't even get those.

Can this be fixed?

Thanks.

#12
Hokochu

Hokochu
  • Members
  • 432 messages
Lame. Can we get a free respec on Quarians?

#13
Kronner

Kronner
  • Members
  • 6 249 messages
Lower the weight of level X Claymore and N7 Crusader from 2.0 to 1.4 in the next patch.

#14
jimmyw404

jimmyw404
  • Members
  • 748 messages
Geth buffs are somewhat minor given that the only real threats are primes and they weren't strongly buffed.

Quarian Infiltrators are now the first OP class in ME3 that got hit with the nerf stick, heh.

Modifié par jimmyw404, 13 mars 2012 - 05:49 .


#15
Cyonan

Cyonan
  • Members
  • 19 360 messages

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

AreleX wrote...

and let this be a lesson to you all: cry long enough, loud enough, and you can ruin things for everybody.

quarian infiltrator was pretty fun while it lasted. back to everyone playing salarian now.



Don't know how it turns out and probably can't know until I finally unlock the Quarian Winfiltrator, but a base cooldown of 14 seconds will still let you spam Sabotage every couple of seconds if you keep your equipment lightweight and I reckon all those Geth unit buffs do counteract the Sabotage debuffs quite evenly.

Enough for them to still wreck the Geth faction on Gold I'd presume.


It'll still be a fairly powerful ability, but they're also cutting the number of geth hackable at one time in half, as well as the damage they deal while hacked in half, and making them not attack for 4x as long.

#16
RicHSAD

RicHSAD
  • Members
  • 80 messages
The Vindicator was one of the few good Assault Rifles. I don't understand why it deserved such a nerf. At least the SMGs are getting a buff, but I am not sure if it is enough.

#17
banthracis

banthracis
  • Members
  • 87 messages
Interesting that the HP/Shield increases for Geth Pyro and hunter on Gold are just enough to prevent an energy drain + cloaked 1 widow shot kill by an infiltrator...

#18
We Tigers

We Tigers
  • Members
  • 960 messages
Also, damn--the spread in damage between the Mattock and Vindicator went from 15 to 32. With the weight increase bringing the vindicator much closer to the Mattock (what exactly is the Mattock weight?) and the Mattock being more accurate, I don't think there's a reason to use the vindicator at all anymore.

These are multiplayer only, right?

Modifié par We Tigers, 13 mars 2012 - 05:54 .


#19
Guest_Aotearas_*

Guest_Aotearas_*
  • Guests

Cyonan wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

AreleX wrote...

and let this be a lesson to you all: cry long enough, loud enough, and you can ruin things for everybody.

quarian infiltrator was pretty fun while it lasted. back to everyone playing salarian now.



Don't know how it turns out and probably can't know until I finally unlock the Quarian Winfiltrator, but a base cooldown of 14 seconds will still let you spam Sabotage every couple of seconds if you keep your equipment lightweight and I reckon all those Geth unit buffs do counteract the Sabotage debuffs quite evenly.

Enough for them to still wreck the Geth faction on Gold I'd presume.


It'll still be a fairly powerful ability, but they're also cutting the number of geth hackable at one time in half, as well as the damage they deal while hacked in half, and making them not attack for 4x as long.


Which is put into perspective by the general increase of health every Geth unit gets, meaning you'll get less free damage, but ptobably the same amount of distraction. Which is good.

#20
DontLickTheSoap

DontLickTheSoap
  • Members
  • 72 messages
Is this live on all platforms or PC only?

#21
Aeduz

Aeduz
  • Members
  • 192 messages
Congrats to the whiners so we can all enjoy taking ages to farm for a spectre pack and get a Gold character card of a class we've already maxed instead of something more useful.

Congrats to over-nerfing sabotage as well as buffing Geth. Time to go farm Cerberus.

#22
Cyonan

Cyonan
  • Members
  • 19 360 messages

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Which is put into perspective by the general increase of health every Geth unit gets, meaning you'll get less free damage, but ptobably the same amount of distraction. Which is good.


The biggest thing for me is the 8 second delay on attacking, up from 2 seconds. At a base 10 second hack(15 with duration spec) it's going to really weaken the Berserk evolve for rank 6 to the point where it probably wont even be worth it, as most Geth don't survive 15 seconds when hacked except Geth Prime.

#23
MockingAsp

MockingAsp
  • Members
  • 189 messages
Can someone turn that url into an actual link. I can't do it on my cell and i would want to read the patch notes.

#24
jimmyw404

jimmyw404
  • Members
  • 748 messages

Aeduz wrote...

Congrats to the whiners so we can all enjoy taking ages to farm for a spectre pack and get a Gold character card of a class we've already maxed instead of something more useful.

Congrats to over-nerfing sabotage as well as buffing Geth. Time to go farm Cerberus.


lol they didn't need to read forums to see that QI were OP or that Geth were underpowered. All they had to do was look at the % of geth-only runs and the % of players playing QI.

#25
AreleX

AreleX
  • Members
  • 2 292 messages
this is just frustrating for so many different reasons.

1. sabotage was the ONLY thing quarian infiltrator had going for it over human and salarian. the ONLY thing. ruining sabotage is making quarian infiltrator worthless, period. you trapped yourself in a corner making the class in such a poor manner, and now, by rectifying it, you ruin it.

2. nerfing the vindicator? why? there are SO MANY other weapons that need attention (claymore, geth pulse rifle, revenant, glitchy *** falcon, to name a few), and instead of getting those in line with the other guns, you nerf something? i don't understand.

3. why are things being nerfed at all right now? this ties into the above. there are SO MANY other things in this game that need fixing (buggy charge taking people out of the map/not restoring shields, invincible enemies, the whole deleted progress glitch, the profile reset glitch, etc) that i don't understand how taking things AWAY is even a priority.

honestly, it doesn't seem like the larger implications of a lot these changes are understood, and that frustrates me. you're on the right track with buffing up smg's, that's good. that's what the game needs. try to bring more things up to snuff, and then, if you need to, judge them from there.