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Cyonan wrote...

I don't know why everyone thinks it's a requirement that they be able to clear gold with randoms 100% of the time.


I've been searching the answer to this since the early days of ME2 (replace "gold with randoms" with "insanity"). I'm still just as baffled as ever.

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Cyonan wrote...

The part you've been complaining about where you die on wave 5.


How is that risk? You still get paid for what you did finish. You don't risk losing anything! ROFL

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I'd love some buffs to the Krogan soldiers/Avenger Assault rifle, personally. They need it.

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But.... even before the nerf, Geth Gold was stiiiill challenging for average to above average players with a team that had a few quarian infiltrators. I had a -lot- of very close calls, and a few failures. Now quarian infiltrator is totally useless. Even if sabotage was crazy powerful, it brought the difficulty to a winnable level. Gold shouldn't be impossible mode <_<

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Aedolon wrote...

I've been searching the answer to this since the early days of ME2 (replace "gold with randoms" with "insanity"). I'm still just as baffled as ever.


To compare ME2 instanity where there is a signifantly less amount of mods to deal with and they DON'T charge you. (this coming from some one who beat ME2 on insanity with a VANGARD!). And ME3 multiplayer is like saying a car is like a plane!

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Geth Hunter changes are definitely for the best. Before they wouldn't have been any concern if not for their cloak. Now they're quite fearsome. Overall, between Geth buffs and Sabotage changes, Geth are no longer the easy mode. *thumbs up*

I'm not sure the Pyro needed that buff. It's already a tough nut defensively, and now its flamethrower seems insanely strong. Woe be unto you who rolls Geth + Glacier.

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Eric, why'd you guys spank the vindicator on both damage and encumbrance?


I'm curious about that as well. I'm not too surprised it got nerfed in one respect - my Vindicator III was outclassing my Avenger X a little too handily considering the level gap - but it seems to have gotten hit a little hard.

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x Riddler x wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

The part you've been complaining about where you die on wave 5.


How is that risk? You still get paid for what you did finish. You don't risk losing anything! ROFL


yes, but at the same time you wont make as much as you would have if you had simply stuck to silver, and then you would have fully beaten it.

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x Riddler x wrote...

How is that risk? You still get paid for what you did finish. You don't risk losing anything! ROFL


The risk is that you just wasted a bunch of time and barely got any credits for it.

Aedolon wrote...

I've been searching the answer to this since the early days of ME2 (replace "gold with randoms" with "insanity"). I'm still just as baffled as ever.


I just don't get it. I play ME on insanity most of the time because I can handle it and enjoy the challenge. Dragon Age on the other hand, I play on normal because I don't like dealing with all the FF. I don't really care about not playing on the harder difficulty, and it doesn't bother me that people that aren't me are.

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Aedolon wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

I don't know why everyone thinks it's a requirement that they be able to clear gold with randoms 100% of the time.


I've been searching the answer to this since the early days of ME2 (replace "gold with randoms" with "insanity"). I'm still just as baffled as ever.


As I've pointed out countless times, if you can't complete gold, how the heck are you supposed to get credits at a reasonable rate? |=< Some people have jobs/university work/lives and can't dedicate 12 hours a day every day just to unlock ****ing weapons in a video game they paid $60 for.

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Spaceguy5 wrote...
...Gold shouldn't be impossible mode <_<



Thank you!!!!!!!!

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Spaceguy5 wrote...

But.... even before the nerf, Geth Gold was stiiiill challenging for average to above average players with a team that had a few quarian infiltrators. I had a -lot- of very close calls, and a few failures. Now quarian infiltrator is totally useless. Even if sabotage was crazy powerful, it brought the difficulty to a winnable level. Gold shouldn't be impossible mode <_<


eh, the geth trooper did need buffs, and the prime was weak compared to the other elites, but they went WAY overboard with the hunter's and pyro's buffs. the hunters where already the bane of my existance,  they did not need both a hp buff AND a movement buff.

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Spaceguy5 wrote...

As I've pointed out countless times, if you can't complete gold, how the heck are you supposed to get credits at a reasonable rate? |=< Some people have jobs/university work/lives and can't dedicate 12 hours a day every day just to unlock ****ing weapons in a video game they paid $60 for.


You sir are my new friend on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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rainasa wrote...

eh, the geth trooper did need buffs, and the prime was weak compared to the other elites, but they went WAY overboard with the hunter's and pyro's buffs. the hunters where already the bane of my existance,  they did not need both a hp buff AND a movement buff.


I think these buffs were needed. BioWare did not need to screw over Sabotage tho!

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rainasa wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

But.... even before the nerf, Geth Gold was stiiiill challenging for average to above average players with a team that had a few quarian infiltrators. I had a -lot- of very close calls, and a few failures. Now quarian infiltrator is totally useless. Even if sabotage was crazy powerful, it brought the difficulty to a winnable level. Gold shouldn't be impossible mode <_<


eh, the geth trooper did need buffs, and the prime was weak compared to the other elites, but they went WAY overboard with the hunter's and pyro's buffs. the hunters where already the bane of my existance,  they did not need both a hp buff AND a movement buff.


The Geth Prime is the one that usually ends up wiping out my teams o.- Because my quarian infiltrator can hardly scratch it. Even pre-nerf, getting a bunch of pyros and rocket troopers to help attack it wouldn't help that much. A lot of times, we ended up having to pull out of rocket launchers (just to regret it when we were out of rockets, and even more primes showed up).

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Okay... let me get this straight? The ONLY person designed to fight against the geth in speific.... now does barely anything?

Alright... Gold was already a problem. Geth made it easier, the buff for them were semi needed but a character debuff was completely dumb. There is no real logical reasoning to nerf one class race's power THAT much because it was being used the way it was intended to be use.

Also, now the lowest Gold time I have seen is 35 minutes which now usually goes for 40 to 45 instead of 28-32. So now you just made a fun multiplayer experience into a damn miserable experience. (UNDERSTANDABLE THOUGH)

What ISNT understandable is why make such nerfs in a co-op game where all players benfit from one another instead of by themselves.

All you have done with this update, is shorten the already short life spand of the multi-player.
Instead of appealing to the fans you have just pissed off a lot of people. There is little fun to be had here.... and THAT is what multiplayer is about in players vs computers is all about. Fun.....
Congrats. -_-

Modifié par Legato 0021, 14 mars 2012 - 05:59 .


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x Riddler x wrote...

rainasa wrote...

eh, the geth trooper did need buffs, and the prime was weak compared to the other elites, but they went WAY overboard with the hunter's and pyro's buffs. the hunters where already the bane of my existance,  they did not need both a hp buff AND a movement buff.


I think these buffs were needed. BioWare did not need to screw over Sabotage tho!


Seriously. Making the enemies harder AND nerfing the best ability to defeat them in one hit? Talk about overkill.

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Spaceguy5 wrote...

As I've pointed out countless times, if you can't complete gold, how the heck are you supposed to get credits at a reasonable rate? |=< Some people have jobs/university work/lives and can't dedicate 12 hours a day every day just to unlock ****ing weapons in a video game they paid $60 for.


but that's just the thing, the game has not even been out for a week, and almost no one has unlocked the higher tier weapons and leveled them up, trying to beat gold now is the equivalent of starting a new game of ME3 on insanity, yes it can be done but its going to be soul crushingly hard, and its made this way so that it doesn't become a cakewalk to those who start it on a new game plus.

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Spaceguy5 wrote...

The Geth Prime is the one that usually ends up wiping out my teams o.- Because my quarian infiltrator can hardly scratch it. Even pre-nerf, getting a bunch of pyros and rocket troopers to help attack it wouldn't help that much. A lot of times, we ended up having to pull out of rocket launchers (just to regret it when we were out of rockets, and even more primes showed up).


BAM help me talk some sence into these fools! Keep it coming!

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Ran quarian on and off all day, probably gained more N7 ranks today than the people crying in this thread for no reason have total. You guys are complaining because you are bad. Geth are still easy and still free credits. Quarian is the still the best, its just not free credits if you are not a gold-capable player.

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rainasa wrote...

but that's just the thing, the game has not even been out for a week, and almost no one has unlocked the higher tier weapons and leveled them up, trying to beat the game now is the equivalent of starting a new game of ME3 on insanity, yes it can be done but its going to be soul crushingly hard, and its made this way so that it doesn't become a cakewalk to those who start it on a new game plus.



You forget one thing those high level weapons you speak of all all RNG drop chance. And I dont know about you I was only able to unlock 1 N7 weapon, and the pallidan sucks balls I think!

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Spaceguy5 wrote...

As I've pointed out countless times, if you can't complete gold, how the heck are you supposed to get credits at a reasonable rate? |=< Some people have jobs/university work/lives and can't dedicate 12 hours a day every day just to unlock ****ing weapons in a video game they paid $60 for.


Here's a suggestion:

Instead of wasting 12 hours grinding credits, just work one hour overtime. I don't know your hourly salary, but let's say you can buy 1600 Bioware points with that - that's 10 spectre packs. For just one hour.

I am being serious. Seriously. Time is money.

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UK Wildcat wrote...

Ran quarian on and off all day, probably gained more N7 ranks today than the people crying in this thread for no reason have total. You guys are complaining because you are bad. Geth are still easy and still free credits. Quarian is the still the best, its just not free credits if you are not a gold-capable player.



INC TROLL!

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rainasa wrote...

but that's just the thing, the game has not even been out for a week, and almost no one has unlocked the higher tier weapons and leveled them up, trying to beat the game now is the equivalent of starting a new game of ME3 on insanity, yes it can be done but its going to be soul crushingly hard, and its made this way so that it doesn't become a cakewalk to those who start it on a new game plus.



You forget one thing those high level weapons you speak of all all RNG drop chance. And I dont know about you I was only able to unlock 1 N7 weapon, and the pallidan sucks balls I think!


A lot of the higher tier weapons aren't even that amazing. Assuming that you play Infiltrator there's discussion about which is better between the Mantis and the Widow they're that close in power. The mantis can be leveled to X by spamming 5k recruit packs.

The system wasn't designed for us all to have Black Widow X's in the first week.

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rainasa wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

As I've pointed out countless times, if you can't complete gold, how the heck are you supposed to get credits at a reasonable rate? |=< Some people have jobs/university work/lives and can't dedicate 12 hours a day every day just to unlock ****ing weapons in a video game they paid $60 for.


but that's just the thing, the game has not even been out for a week, and almost no one has unlocked the higher tier weapons and leveled them up, trying to beat gold now is the equivalent of starting a new game of ME3 on insanity, yes it can be done but its going to be soul crushingly hard, and its made this way so that it doesn't become a cakewalk to those who start it on a new game plus.


I think doing a new game of ME3 on insanity would actually be easier >_> Considering the price of Spectre packs, the number of upgrades and weapons, how high each can be upgraded, how random the system is, and that you're still awarded character cards frequently even after maxing their level/appearance.... I think unlocking everything on multiplayer could take weeks or even months of playing many hours a day, every day.

Really, there's only a few weapons and upgrades that I personally want, but getting them is near impossible with this random number generator BS. All I want is a decent sniper rifle <___<

Gold is harder if you don't have the right equipment. But to get the right equipment in an almost-reasonable timeframe, you need to play Gold religiously and win every time. Sense, this does not make.

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Gold is already a joke, we were three man clearing gold in the demo with any combo of characters, we did the Krogan Gold challenge with 3 people ffs.

If we actually could stand to play the game after the awful endings I'm sure we'd have beaten gold reapers as well.