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[x Riddler x]

Aedolon wrote...

Here's a suggestion:

Instead of wasting 12 hours grinding credits, just work one hour overtime. I don't know your hourly salary, but let's say you can buy 1600 Bioware points with that - that's 10 spectre packs. For just one hour.

I am being serious. Seriously. Time is money.

And there goes all of your credibility.

I refuse to waste money on something that is pointless to buy. 1600 points for me on xbox is $20 and that sir I would rather put towards another game! not some random chance and a weapon I need.

Modifié par x Riddler x, 14 mars 2012 - 06:08 .

[x Riddler x]

HaesoME3 wrote...

Gold is already a joke, we were three man clearing gold in the demo with any combo of characters, we did the Krogan Gold challenge with 3 people ffs.

If we actually could stand to play the game after the awful endings I'm sure we'd have beaten gold reapers as well.

IN THE DEMO!!!

Nuf said!

[rainasa]

x Riddler x wrote...

You forget one thing those high level weapons you speak of all all RNG drop chance. And I dont know about you I was only able to unlock 1 N7 weapon, and the pallidan sucks balls I think!

really? really???? you are seriously going, "oh no! i have only unlocked one of the super rare weapons in the game woe is me!" let me tell you. i am currently N7 108 and i haven't unlocked a single n7 weapon at all in the 25-30 specter packs I've bought. that's what RNG is, you should not expect to be able to get the best weapons at the drop of the hat, which would you prefer? this system or having to spend 15000 credits for a gold weapon (and for each upgrade) and 30000 for a n7 one?

x Riddler x wrote...

HaesoME3 wrote...

Gold is already a joke, we were three man clearing gold in the demo with any combo of characters, we did the Krogan Gold challenge with 3 people ffs.

If we actually could stand to play the game after the awful endings I'm sure we'd have beaten gold reapers as well.

IN THE DEMO!!!

Nuf said!

exept this is pointless because it was cerberus, the QI wasnt even unlocked yet and firebase white is probably the easiest of all the maps

Modifié par rainasa, 14 mars 2012 - 06:10 .

[Cyonan]

x Riddler x wrote...

HaesoME3 wrote...

Gold is already a joke, we were three man clearing gold in the demo with any combo of characters, we did the Krogan Gold challenge with 3 people ffs.

If we actually could stand to play the game after the awful endings I'm sure we'd have beaten gold reapers as well.

IN THE DEMO!!!

Nuf said!

The demo wasn't any easier than the full game. We actually had less equipment to work with and no spectre packs to buy.

In the full game I've 2 manned Geth Gold with Infiltrators.

[Spaceguy5]

Aedolon wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

As I've pointed out countless times, if you can't complete gold, how the heck are you supposed to get credits at a reasonable rate? |=< Some people have jobs/university work/lives and can't dedicate 12 hours a day every day just to unlock ****ing weapons in a video game they paid $60 for.

Here's a suggestion:

Instead of wasting 12 hours grinding credits, just work one hour overtime. I don't know your hourly salary, but let's say you can buy 1600 Bioware points with that - that's 10 spectre packs. For just one hour.

I am being serious. Seriously. Time is money.

Pffft, I'm an engineering student. I live off student loans, and the course work is too demanding to grant me much free time to even get a job. Really the only reason I'm playing right now is because of spring break.

Also, I'd hardly consider 10 spectre packs to be worth $20 (hell, I'd just buy a new game). That just makes it worse that it takes hours to get them. Believe me, I've already gone through the whole "time is money, and this takes a hell of a lot of time" thought process, which is a big reason I hate these packs so much.

[Esperys]

I have to say, they did remove my favorite part of the ability. The tactical choice on target. Once upon a time I had to make real time choices...what is best? A rocket trooper to put some damage into a high priority target? Maybe we're getting overwhelmed and a tough pyro would be best, to get the attention of it's fellows and give my team a reprieve.

In their attempt to make it more agressive (read: make the charmed target live longer), they also made it vastly useless as a means of distraction instead of just 'kill everything!'.

I don't mind most of the nerfs, honestly. But my CC is no longer a CC. It's just another method of pouring out damage...there's plenty of damage to go around already. =(

[Cyonan]

Esperys wrote...

I have to say, they did remove my favorite part of the ability. The tactical choice on target. Once upon a time I had to make real time choices...what is best? A rocket trooper to put some damage into a high priority target? Maybe we're getting overwhelmed and a tough pyro would be best, to get the attention of it's fellows and give my team a reprieve.

In their attempt to make it more agressive (read: make the charmed target live longer), they also made it vastly useless as a means of distraction instead of just 'kill everything!'.

I don't mind most of the nerfs, honestly. But my CC is no longer a CC. It's just another method of pouring out damage...there's plenty of damage to go around already. =(

It's still a CC ability, and one that also happens to deal high amounts of damage.

It just wasn't supposed to be a CC ability that could affect every single enemy unity on the map at once.

[x Riddler x]

rainasa wrote...

really? really???? you are seriously going, "oh no! i have only unlocked one of the super rare weapons in the game woe is me!" let me tell you. i am currently N7 108 and i haven't unlocked a single n7 weapon at all in the 25-30 specter packs I've bought. that's what RNG is, you should not expect to be able to get the best weapons at the drop of the hat, which would you prefer? this system or having to spend 15000 credits for a gold weapon (and for each upgrade) and 30000 for a n7 one?

<-------N5 rating is 215
 When you reach my level let me know how many you have then! And fyi I have opened near 70-75 spector packs and my soldier and enginer is level 20 and I have yet to play those classes! So you can just shove it.

[x Riddler x]

Cyonan wrote...

It's still a CC ability, and one that also happens to deal high amounts of damage.

It just wasn't supposed to be a CC ability that could affect every single enemy unity on the map at once.

LIKE TALKING TO A WALL I SWEAR!!!!!!

[Spaceguy5]

HaesoME3 wrote...

Gold is already a joke, we were three man clearing gold in the demo with any combo of characters, we did the Krogan Gold challenge with 3 people ffs.

If we actually could stand to play the game after the awful endings I'm sure we'd have beaten gold reapers as well.

Not sure if trolling, or.......

Even if you can 3-man it, the vast majority of people obviously can't. Heck, before I unlocked Quarian Infiltrator, I could never get any 4-man team through any Gold challenge. At all. We didn't even get close. And I'm talking about teams of 20 or very near-20 people. In fact, I couldn't even find gold games that often when I tried to search for them, presumably because not enough people wanted to attempt it

[LemurFromTheId]

x Riddler x wrote...

And there goes all of your credibility.

I refuse to waste money on something that is pointless to buy. 1600 points for me on xbox is $20 and that sir I would rather put towards another game! not some random chance and a weapon I need.

And once again, you are completely missing the point: time is money. Every hour wasted is $20 wasted. Or whatever your salary is. If grinding for credits is really such a chore, it would be vastly more cost-effective to just buy the points.

Of course, this assumes that time spent playing the game is time wasted. For me, playing the game is the point.

[Cyonan]

x Riddler x wrote...

<-------N5 rating is 215
 When you reach my level let me know how many you have then! And fyi I have opened near 70-75 spector packs and my soldier and enginer is level 20 and I have yet to play those classes! So you can just shove it.

My N7 probably wont ever go above 120 cause I doubt I'll promote characters and don't care too much about the number I see next to my name.

I've opened about 60-65 Spectre packs though, and all I have gotten for N7 weapon is a Javelin I. I actually haven't even used the thing in a game yet because I feel the Widow/Mantis are superior to it.

That's just how the RNG goes, though. If I already had a Black Widow X I would probably get bored pretty quick. Especially if they never nerfed Sabotage I would pretty much be able to solo Geth Gold with it.

[HaesoME3]

x Riddler x wrote...

HaesoME3 wrote...

Gold is already a joke, we were three man clearing gold in the demo with any combo of characters, we did the Krogan Gold challenge with 3 people ffs.

If we actually could stand to play the game after the awful endings I'm sure we'd have beaten gold reapers as well.

IN THE DEMO!!!

Nuf said!

The demo was harder. I didn't have access to the best weapons and I didn't have access to more than 2 of every consumables and I didn't have access to tier 3 equipment.

Stop being terrible and blaming the game for how terrible you are. If I can convince my friends to actually play the game with me after the ending from SP kicked them in the balls I'll be sure to post a video of beating Reapers on Gold. When you have 5-6 missiles each... Gold isn't even a joke bro, it's less than a joke. PS: It caps at 10. Even 4 losers like you could beat gold with 10 missiles.

Modifié par HaesoME3, 14 mars 2012 - 06:17 .

[Spaceguy5]

HaesoME3 wrote...

x Riddler x wrote...

HaesoME3 wrote...

Gold is already a joke, we were three man clearing gold in the demo with any combo of characters, we did the Krogan Gold challenge with 3 people ffs.

If we actually could stand to play the game after the awful endings I'm sure we'd have beaten gold reapers as well.

IN THE DEMO!!!

Nuf said!

The demo was harder. I didn't have access to the best weapons and I didn't have access to more than 2 of every consumables and I didn't have access to tier 3 equipment.

Stop being terrible and blaming the game for how terrible you are. If I can convince my friends to actually play the game with me after the ending from SP kicked them in the balls I'll be sure to post a video of beating Reapers on Gold. When you have 5-6 missiles each... Gold is a joke. PS: It caps at 10. Even 4 losers like you could beat gold with 10 missiles.

So everyone who can't finish Gold is a loser now? Elitist much?

[x Riddler x]

Cyonan wrote...

My N7 probably wont ever go above 120 cause I doubt I'll promote characters and don't care too much about the number I see next to my name.

I've opened about 60-65 Spectre packs though, and all I have gotten for N7 weapon is a Javelin I. I actually haven't even used the thing in a game yet because I feel the Widow/Mantis are superior to it.

That's just how the RNG goes, though. If I already had a Black Widow X I would probably get bored pretty quick. Especially if they never nerfed Sabotage I would pretty much be able to solo Geth Gold with it.

And there is your ignorance once again.


LIKE A WALL I SWEAR!

[LemurFromTheId]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

Aedolon wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

As I've pointed out countless times, if you can't complete gold, how the heck are you supposed to get credits at a reasonable rate? |=< Some people have jobs/university work/lives and can't dedicate 12 hours a day every day just to unlock ****ing weapons in a video game they paid $60 for.

Here's a suggestion:

Instead of wasting 12 hours grinding credits, just work one hour overtime. I don't know your hourly salary, but let's say you can buy 1600 Bioware points with that - that's 10 spectre packs. For just one hour.

I am being serious. Seriously. Time is money.

Pffft, I'm an engineering student. I live off student loans, and the course work is too demanding to grant me much free time to even get a job. Really the only reason I'm playing right now is because of spring break.

Also, I'd hardly consider 10 spectre packs to be worth $20 (hell, I'd just buy a new game). That just makes it worse that it takes hours to get them. Believe me, I've already gone through the whole "time is money, and this takes a hell of a lot of time" thought process, which is a big reason I hate these packs so much.

Sound reasonable. However, while it's true that the unlocking system is far from optimal, that shouldn't be fixed by making the Gold challenge the easiest way to gather credits.

[UK Wildcat]

x Riddler x wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

It's still a CC ability, and one that also happens to deal high amounts of damage.

It just wasn't supposed to be a CC ability that could affect every single enemy unity on the map at once.

LIKE TALKING TO A WALL I SWEAR!!!!!!

Its funny watching you try to justify why sabotage should be Godmode.  Very obvious this was the only way you got your rating to the 215 level you said. 

[robarcool]

All things seemed fine, save for the Vindicator. Haven't used the Vindicator myself, but if it was a good Assault rifle, then why nerf it? Assault rifles suck in multiplayer anyway and they need some buff, not a nerf.

[Cyonan]

x Riddler x wrote...

And there is your ignorance once again.


LIKE A WALL I SWEAR!

I already 2 manned Geth Gold with a Mantis IX. If I had a Black Widow X with the old Sabotage it would be god mode for a skilled player.

You can say ignorance as much as you want, but that's not going to change facts.

[Spaceguy5]

UK Wildcat wrote...

x Riddler x wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

It's still a CC ability, and one that also happens to deal high amounts of damage.

It just wasn't supposed to be a CC ability that could affect every single enemy unity on the map at once.

LIKE TALKING TO A WALL I SWEAR!!!!!!

Its funny watching you try to justify why sabotage should be Godmode.  Very obvious this was the only way you got your rating to the 215 level you said. 

...but we never said Sabotage should be god mode. It wasn't god mode before. It may be godmode for a top 10% player, buuuut........ that's a tiny piece of the community. And they'll find other "godmodes" to use.

Modifié par Spaceguy5, 14 mars 2012 - 06:22 .

[x Riddler x]

Aedolon wrote...

And once again, you are completely missing the point: time is money. Every hour wasted is $20 wasted. Or whatever your salary is. If grinding for credits is really such a chore, it would be vastly more cost-effective to just buy the points.

Of course, this assumes that time spent playing the game is time wasted. For me, playing the game is the point.

Typical American responce, and where do you work that you get $20 an hour? Can I get a job there? Sorry that not all of us are ruch like you. I for one have student loans to pay off.

So by your logic if time is money then quanity is better then quality right? Remind me to avoid which ever company you work for.

[HaesoME3]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

HaesoME3 wrote...

x Riddler x wrote...

HaesoME3 wrote...

Gold is already a joke, we were three man clearing gold in the demo with any combo of characters, we did the Krogan Gold challenge with 3 people ffs.

If we actually could stand to play the game after the awful endings I'm sure we'd have beaten gold reapers as well.

IN THE DEMO!!!

Nuf said!

The demo was harder. I didn't have access to the best weapons and I didn't have access to more than 2 of every consumables and I didn't have access to tier 3 equipment.

Stop being terrible and blaming the game for how terrible you are. If I can convince my friends to actually play the game with me after the ending from SP kicked them in the balls I'll be sure to post a video of beating Reapers on Gold. When you have 5-6 missiles each... Gold is a joke. PS: It caps at 10. Even 4 losers like you could beat gold with 10 missiles.

So everyone who can't finish Gold is a loser now? Elitist much?

Did you read what I wrote? I said like him, I didn't say "Like people who can't beat gold already."

He's a fool who was trying to tell me beating gold in the demo was somehow easier when it was actually harder. Logical fallacies like that tell me he's not the sharpest crayon in the box. I wasn't basing my condescension on his inability to beat gold I assure you.

[Sereaph502]

After playing around a bit, I think the buff to the geth made them a bit too difficult on silver and above.

Normally even on a bad team we can make it to wave 9-10. Now I haven't been in a single silver geth match that has made it past wave 6. Pyros and hunters have waaaay too much HP for the amount of damage/swarming they can do.

[Cyonan]

x Riddler x wrote...

Typical American responce, and where do you work that you get $20 an hour? Can I get a job there? Sorry that not all of us are ruch like you. I for one have student loans to pay off.

So by your logic if time is money then quanity is better then quality right? Remind me to avoid which ever company you work for.

Time is money. If all you care about is getting gear then it comes down to which nets you more Spectre Packs: Your hourly wage or playing the game normally.

Quantity/Quality doesn't really factor in with money. I guess if you want quality that bad you could ask to be paid in a currency that's worth more, but that's about it really.

[UK Wildcat]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

UK Wildcat wrote...

x Riddler x wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

It's still a CC ability, and one that also happens to deal high amounts of damage.

It just wasn't supposed to be a CC ability that could affect every single enemy unity on the map at once.

LIKE TALKING TO A WALL I SWEAR!!!!!!

Its funny watching you try to justify why sabotage should be Godmode.  Very obvious this was the only way you got your rating to the 215 level you said. 

...but we never said Sabotage should be god mode. It wasn't god mode before. It may be godmode for a top 10% player, buuuut........ that's a tiny piece of the community. And they'll find other "godmodes" to use.

It was God-mode.  It allowed non-Gold caliber players to farm Gold.  Players who couldn't beat cerberus or reapers on Gold, or reapers on silver probably, were able to efficiently farm Gold.  The content was trivialized.  Difficulty should mean something.