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[kjir]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

That is correct, your hacked robot will live longer now because it will take 8 seconds for his friends to turn on him. This makes the Berserk upgrade more useful because the hacked robot has more time to deal damage before he dies.

Dunno if that matters... opportunistic sniper or vanguard makes quick work of that. Adding an overshield on the hacked target like it did in ME2 would accomplish the goal of more time->more damage, or maybe upping damage able to be dealt out while hacked.

[Cazlee]

I just finished 4 gold matches against geth with a quarian infiltrator.. they're still easy.

[Quixal]

I think my biggest issue with this update is that it indicates we will be in for significant adjustments to classes but can only respec characters by starting them off from scratch or by getting some rare card. Not all of us play ten hours a day.

[KnoxZone1]

Finally. I am sick and tired of seeing QI in every gold game I join. Diversity is fun. They are still going to be super useful vs Geth, but not easy mode.

Modifié par KnoxZone1, 13 mars 2012 - 08:00 .

[Kittstalkur]

Still no news on the post death Biotic Charge, eh?

[kiltysue]

UK Wildcat wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

royard wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Which is put into perspective by the general increase of health every Geth unit gets, meaning you'll get less free damage, but ptobably the same amount of distraction. Which is good.

The biggest thing for me is the 8 second delay on attacking, up from 2 seconds. At a base 10 second hack(15 with duration spec) it's going to really weaken the Berserk evolve for rank 6 to the point where it probably wont even be worth it, as most Geth don't survive 15 seconds when hacked except Geth Prime.

The 8 seconds delay if for ENEMY, if I'm not reading wrong.  I think you get 8 seconds of free damage before enemy bots attack your hacked bot. 

That is correct, your hacked robot will live longer now because it will take 8 seconds for his friends to turn on him. This makes the Berserk upgrade more useful because the hacked robot has more time to deal damage before he dies.

Anyone who is smart should realize that its 8 seconds of free damage on Primes...

Actually, anyone "smart" realizes that non hacked enemies get 8 seconds of free
damage on player characters.  This is a nerf to cc.  So yes.  On gold, you now
of 8 seconds of time to "damage" your hacked enemy, while other nearby
enemies continue to attack you.

What's our next class to cry about and see if we can get bioware to
respond with a nerf?  I vote Salarians infiltrators or Vanguards.
They're both way too overpowered and fun to play.  Lets nerf them.

Modifié par kiltysue, 13 mars 2012 - 08:03 .

[Cloaking_Thane]

Lol after the 10th geth prime in the wave and the halved beserk damage....

Is there something in the code that auto targets them to the Geth Primes or is it closest enemy in the proximity?

I'd rather that Hacked pyro not spend 5 of the seconds on a geth trooper...as anyone who is smart should realize.

Rather it should be 8 seconds of free damage from hacked primes, which may end up being useful..TBD

[sTrYkZ1LLa]

KnoxZone1 wrote...

Finally. I am sick and tired of seeing QI in every gold game I join. Diversity is fun. They are still going to be super useful vs Geth, but not easy mode.

You have to play as one or insta kick on most gold from what I've seen.

[royard]

sTrYkZ1LLa wrote...

KnoxZone1 wrote...

Finally. I am sick and tired of seeing QI in every gold game I join. Diversity is fun. They are still going to be super useful vs Geth, but not easy mode.

You have to play as one or insta kick on most gold from what I've seen.

Is it getting that bad?  (I'm avoiding MP until they fix the re-locking kits issue.)

[LemurFromTheId]

royard wrote...

Actually, turian soldiers will be really great with mattock, since markman increases both accuracy and ROF, both of the things mattock lacks. (mattock is less accurate than avenger, if you didn't know)

Mattock lacks ROF? Mattock is a semi-automatic firearm with a staggering ROF of 450. I can't even click my mouse that fast (7.5 times per second), yet it still outdamages other assault rifles. How is ROF boost going to help? Will it speed up my trigger finger?

[AgamenonAtreides]

KnoxZone1 wrote...

Finally. I am sick and tired of seeing QI in every gold game I join. Diversity is fun. They are still going to be super useful vs Geth, but not easy mode.

With the new changes u are going to see more QI on gold runs.. because normally are 1-2 QI but now u are going to see at last 3QI for supply that bestial nerf... so u are screwed now;)

[DCko]

I'll be farming Reapers on Gold too now. They are pretty simple with the right biotics. Got to round 10 in under 30 minutes yesterday but died at extraction. But overall, Reaper Gold runs is becoming more of a cakewalk.

So we can expect a nerf to reave?

At this rate, let's nerf every class for what they are good at. Vindicator was my fav gun too, with the stability mod and turian sentinel.

Modifié par DCko, 13 mars 2012 - 08:57 .

[royard]

Aedolon wrote...

royard wrote...

Actually, turian soldiers will be really great with mattock, since markman increases both accuracy and ROF, both of the things mattock lacks. (mattock is less accurate than avenger, if you didn't know)

Mattock lacks ROF? Mattock is a semi-automatic firearm with a staggering ROF of 450. I can't even click my mouse that fast (7.5 times per second), yet it still outdamages other assault rifles. How is ROF boost going to help? Will it speed up my trigger finger?

My bad.  I meant to say recoil. 

[TheStratovarian]

Heh, im waiting until they give primes sabotage immunity, or counter sabotage to give their units that 200% damage boost when you try, when this keeps up for the same method, or armor to all cerb units in gold to prevent stasis, the more cc farms go on, the more nerfs that will fly, and rightly so for it. Finally, when they can't make them any worse, they drop the money, if they don't first to stop gold farming.

[Zyrusticae]

Haha, it's funny that Sabotage gets nerfed so hard when it's such a situational power that's really only good against one type of enemy, whereas I can still do warp->throw combo barrages that clear entire rooms with impunity, or use Salarian Infiltrator whereby I can strip any enemy of their shields in short order and then one-shot them with a Mantis (no, a Widow isn't necessary, heh).

If anything, Sabotage needs to be made into something that actually has a use against non-Geth enemies. If it's going to be so situational, on the other hand, it should be a little OP, because it has to make up for being completely and utterly useless otherwise.

I also do not understand the nerf to the Vindicator. Yeah, it was pretty weight-efficient, but so what? It's nice to have options. If the only option for power-heavy characters is to stick with an SMG or heavy pistol at all times, well, that gets kind of boring, doesn't it?

But at least those SMGs MIGHT actually be useful now. Sort of. I still can't see myself using one over a heavy pistol. ESPECIALLY with how outrageously high their recoil tends to be.

[MetallicaRulez0]

I can understand either a damage or a weight nerf on the Vindicator: it was the only non-Pistol weapon that was efficient for Casters... but what is it's purpose now? It's now too heavy for Casters, and too weak for everyone else. I don't get it.

Oh well, back to spamming headshots with a Pistol like the rest of the sheep. Baahhhhhh.

[stu_]

MetallicaRulez0 wrote...

I can understand either a damage or a weight nerf on the Vindicator: it was the only non-Pistol weapon that was efficient for Casters... but what is it's purpose now? It's now too heavy for Casters, and too weak for everyone else. I don't get it.

Oh well, back to spamming headshots with a Pistol like the rest of the sheep. Baahhhhhh.

^^^ THIS ^^^

[Giantdeathrobot]

This isin't that big a nerf. Hacking Roket Troopers now means 8 seconds of them sending rockets towards their friends, not the team. Considering this does hefty damage even to Primes, I don't see how this is such a tremendous nerfbat.

Buffing SMGs is a good idea, but it's still not enough. The Hornet still has too much kick, the Locust still can't kill even a Husk with a full clip in the head above Bronze, the Tempest is OK-ish if you're at Heavy Melee range. Shuriken is the only somewhat possibly viable one, i you really like SMgs.

Mattock buff is lovely. Now if only I could unlock the damn thing.

Vindicator nerf? Since when was thing weapon singled out as needing a nerf more than any other?

[Viscereality]

Geth need a sniper unit, the fact that their only ranged ability that's considered dangerous are easily dodgable rockets is a little unfair for them. Geth snipers are kind of a staple for the race, considering Legion and whatnot.
Or did he take all the snipers with him in his platform.

[Aeduz]

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

This isin't that big a nerf. Hacking Roket Troopers now means 8 seconds of them sending rockets towards their friends, not the team. Considering this does hefty damage even to Primes, I don't see how this is such a tremendous nerfbat.

Apart from instead of 2 troopers doing the damage, there is not only 1, so half the DPS. That's cool.
Oh wait, bezerk was also nerfed, so it's effectively a quater of the DPS pre-nerf, and now they're also useless at distracting. Yeah man not a big nerf at all. 

[Cloaking_Thane]

I would love to hear an explanation for vindcator as well

[Baerdface]

R.I.P. QI (2012-2012)

[Repojam]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

I would love to hear an explanation for vindcator as well

Vindicator stabilized with a scope is easy of laying down a ton of headshots with very little weight.

A lot of my characters (engineers, infiltrators, etc) run with a vindicator and are still at 200% recharge and can still use it to snipe across the map effectively and quickly.

I am not seeing a real difference post nerf, except that occasionally i think a guy "should be dead" and has 1 box of life left.

[Kastrenzo]

Geth are now officially a Pain in the ass to fight now.

I was wondering why it was taking 3 headshots with a damn black widow to kill a simple pyro.

[MetallicaRulez0]

SMGs are still crap. I used the Tempest for a couple games and it still has too much kick and not nearly enough power. Takes 5+ seconds of headshots to kill basically anything on Silver. It's nice being able to hold down the mouse button for 20 seconds before reloading though.

Haven't tried the Shuriken or Locust yet. The Shuriken is likely still awful because of it's recoil. The Locust is likely still awful because of it's PITIFUL damage. Seriously, that thing must shoot compressed air or something. It was hilariously underpowered, and probably still is.