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March 13 Balance Changes Posted

Débuté par Eric Fagnan , mars 13 2012 05:28

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#201
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:05

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x Riddler x wrote...

This is such BULL! Why in the hell would you screw up the Quarian Infultrator!!!! It was like one of the ONLY ways that some one who is searching alone can have have a chance at beating a GOLD challenge! Why would you punish players who out smart you guys at BioWare. A Quarian Infultrator SHOULD BE OVERPOWERED AGAINST THE GETH, IT JUST MAKES SINCE.

And to all you fools out their crying about it, maybe you should have just waited until you got your Quarian Infultrator and start doing gold challenges. Stop complaining about a good thing!


I played Quarian Infiltrator pre-nerf, I intend to keep playing Quarian Infiltrator post-nerf and I still think the nerf should have happened(I don't think it should have been so severe, but that's another topic). Just because we're playing on co-op doesn't mean we should throw all sense of balance out the window. It doesn't need to be as tight as a pvp environment, but it should still happen a bit.

In the end, those of us that were good infiltrators to begin with can make it work. We just would probably be a bit more effective if we were playing Salarian.

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:12

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x Riddler x wrote...

This is such BULL! Why in the hell would you screw up the Quarian Infultrator!!!! It was like one of the ONLY ways that some one who is searching alone can have have a chance at beating a GOLD challenge! Why would you punish players who out smart you guys at BioWare. A Quarian Infultrator SHOULD BE OVERPOWERED AGAINST THE GETH, IT JUST MAKES SINCE.

And to all you fools out their crying about it, maybe you should have just waited until you got your Quarian Infultrator and start doing gold challenges. Stop complaining about a good thing!


Why does it 'just make sense'? Every time we see the Quarians and Geth fight, the Quarians end up dropping the soap.

Edit: Because I'm a fortune teller and foresee bad things, I'm going to clarify. I'm not saying that Quarian Infiltrators should be worthless against the Geth; I'm asking why it 'just makes sense' that a Quarian should be most powerful against an enemy that barely registers the Quarians as a threat by this point.

Modifié par Kopikatsu, 14 mars 2012 - 01:19 .

#203
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:12

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Buff Cryo Blast next time maybe ? At least it would
make quarian engineers useful..
BioWare hates quarians as it seems.

Modifié par tytanowy, 14 mars 2012 - 01:21 .

#204
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:16

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I would of liked a free respec on my Quarian Infiltrator with these changes. I really don't want to use my respec card. But I still love the multiplayer.

#205
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:26

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Twas so funny when I went to farm geth with my QI only to get slaughtered with hacked geth standing immobile, geth hunter's walking like Speedy Gonzalez, and pyros dropping people i less than a second. Went through different weapon setups, all with no success. Knew something was up as skills felt 'off'. Come onto the forums and find QI's have been nerfed to high heaven. Loved that class so after reading most of this thread, I now have a reason to promote that Quarian and start over. Gonna see if I can figure out a way to make this work.

#206
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:32

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..well.. there goes my favorite character, since the encumbrance will ruin me using the Vindicator on my Engineer....

..and the Geth being buffed too.

..yeah, so this is what it feels like to be disappointed after a live update to a game. First time for everything, but I see no redeeming factors in evidence with this.

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:34

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Kopikatsu wrote...

Why does it 'just make sense'? Every time we see the Quarians and Geth fight, the Quarians end up dropping the soap.

Edit: Because I'm a fortune teller and foresee bad things, I'm going to clarify. I'm not saying that Quarian Infiltrators should be worthless against the Geth; I'm asking why it 'just makes sense' that a Quarian should be most powerful against an enemy that barely registers the Quarians as a threat by this point.


Heres why a Quarian Infiltrator whould be overpowered agains the geth! THEY ARE THE BEST AT TEC AND HACKING! To nerf what a Quarian Infiltrator can do is to say "Oh you can no longer use this class in Gold because we(BioWare) think you should sweat blood to beat a Gold challenge!" So what if we as a community found an easy way to beat a Gold challenge. MULTIPLAYER IS NOT WHAT MADE MASS EFFECT A GREAT GAME! We have the power to change what class we want to play what level of challenge we want to play, what map and enemy we want to play against, why nerf something that should be fun to play and that does not effect anyone in the community. IT IS CO-OP.

P.S. If the is a forcite of what is yet to come I am going to stop playing multiplayer. For the players who can olny search alone will never beat a gold challenge if BioWare continues to nerf us and buff the mobs!

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:37

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Jack of Wolves wrote...

..well.. there goes my favorite character, since the encumbrance will ruin me using the Vindicator on my Engineer....

..and the Geth being buffed too.

..yeah, so this is what it feels like to be disappointed after a live update to a game. First time for everything, but I see no redeeming factors in evidence with this.


Right............. just how I feel!

GG BioWare way to KILL YOUR MULTIPLAYER, bunch of fools over there.

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:43

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x Riddler x wrote...

Jack of Wolves wrote...

..well.. there goes my favorite character, since the encumbrance will ruin me using the Vindicator on my Engineer....

..and the Geth being buffed too.

..yeah, so this is what it feels like to be disappointed after a live update to a game. First time for everything, but I see no redeeming factors in evidence with this.


Right............. just how I feel!

GG BioWare way to KILL YOUR MULTIPLAYER, bunch of fools over there.



 
oh NoEz !!! NOw wE HavE tO Use oTheR CHarAcTers ThAt aRe JUsT aS GOioood


 
Herp derp o_O

#210
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:44

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Why did they go and mess with the Vindicator? It was the only reasonable assault rifle that didn't weigh 2 tons. and Sabotage is completely useless now so i won't be playing my infiltrator anymore.

Did anybody notice the mattock getting even further buffed? Seems like the people at bioware have a weapon preference to me.

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:45

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 Shuriken is actually a decent weapon now. I use it as a backup on my Infiltrator when things get close. Still don't know the reasoning for nerfing the Vindicator though.

#212
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:45

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Vindicator, Sabotage and Mattock didn't need the changes in my opinion, but oh well.

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:47

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x Riddler x wrote...

Jack of Wolves wrote...

..well.. there goes my favorite character, since the encumbrance will ruin me using the Vindicator on my Engineer....

..and the Geth being buffed too.

..yeah, so this is what it feels like to be disappointed after a live update to a game. First time for everything, but I see no redeeming factors in evidence with this.


Right............. just how I feel!

GG BioWare way to KILL YOUR MULTIPLAYER, bunch of fools over there.

Why you angry? The Vindicator is just a tad heavy and slightly weaker? You most likely won't even notice the weight and even if you do, it will be maybe 4 or 5 % more.

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:47

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x Riddler x wrote...

Heres why a Quarian Infiltrator whould be overpowered agains the geth! THEY ARE THE BEST AT TEC AND HACKING! To nerf what a Quarian Infiltrator can do is to say "Oh you can no longer use this class in Gold because we(BioWare) think you should sweat blood to beat a Gold challenge!" So what if we as a community found an easy way to beat a Gold challenge. MULTIPLAYER IS NOT WHAT MADE MASS EFFECT A GREAT GAME! We have the power to change what class we want to play what level of challenge we want to play, what map and enemy we want to play against, why nerf something that should be fun to play and that does not effect anyone in the community. IT IS CO-OP.

P.S. If the is a forcite of what is yet to come I am going to stop playing multiplayer. For the players who can olny search alone will never beat a gold challenge if BioWare continues to nerf us and buff the mobs!


Nobody is saying you can't use Quarian Infiltrator in gold.

I still use it and I make it work. Only the players that aren't gold material and were solely relying on Sabotage as a win button are the ones that can't make it work.

#215
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:50

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I've been playing gold vs geth and the same Widow that I loved and adored last week now feels like an overweight POS nerf gun. Very disappointing.

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:54

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IPLASTIKMAN wrote...

 
oh NoEz !!! NOw wE HavE tO Use oTheR CHarAcTers ThAt aRe JUsT aS GOioood


 
Herp derp o_O


Not the point here kid. Some of us have lives and wish to beable to get good gear faster then playing 4+ silver missions. How about BioWare nerf Reapers at gold. If you look NO ONE has beat them on gold yet. considering 5 Banshes, 3 or 4 Brutes, 3 Ravengers, and 30+ Muraders and Cannibles coming at you at the final wave! Yeah so nerfing the one thing that made getting good gear faster than 2 or 3 hours of playing 4 silver challenges. But sure why not nerf us and buff the geth so they are just as hard to beat as the reapers! That make sooooo much since to me.


P.S. Every one loves trolls like you btw ;)

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:54

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Hyrist wrote...

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Except they no longer draw the aggro when you need it immediately, therefore negating much of its advantage.

Not to mention the numerous times sabatoge doesn't register at all


Then Effing TAKE COVER!

If you're out in the open for those 8 seconds as an Infiltrator, you've got a bigger problem than needing an OP CC move to save you form dumb decissions.

If you're under pressure personally, you have cloak. If your team is under pressure, then you need to work together to get out of it.


lol yea you've got it figured out there bud, except your pretty picture doesnt always work out and I wont even go into a "random" gold match strat. or once that Prime/Hunter stun locks you its a 50/50 for you regardless.

They nerfed it to you point where AOE is irrelevent. I dont even feel like dissecting this further...

#218
x Riddler x
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:55

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Cyonan wrote...

Nobody is saying you can't use Quarian Infiltrator in gold.

I still use it and I make it work. Only the players that aren't gold material and were solely relying on Sabotage as a win button are the ones that can't make it work.


Got to love your ignorance and god complex thier kid!

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 01:59

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x Riddler x wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Nobody is saying you can't use Quarian Infiltrator in gold.

I still use it and I make it work. Only the players that aren't gold material and were solely relying on Sabotage as a win button are the ones that can't make it work.


Got to love your ignorance and god complex thier kid!


Explain to me how Quarian Infiltrators are worthless.

You need to say more than "Sabotage is ruined and is bad". I need specifics.

#220
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:02

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Played a game of Geth Gold. Two QI. Even with the nerfs we still won fairly easily. Sabotage is a lot more tactical now that you can't just spam it in every enemy group, but it is still quite useful vs Geth. QI are still quite useful.

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:13

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Cyonan wrote...


Explain to me how Quarian Infiltrators are worthless.

You need to say more than "Sabotage is ruined and is bad". I need specifics.


Wow really kid? Lets see BioWare made Sabotage almost useless against the geth and turrents now. So what the hell is the difference bettween a Quarian and a damn Human. *HINT* THERE IS NONE. Quarians are now missing their skill which made them any good and to say that they are still good is to be ignorant! I would be ok with the buffs BioWare did to the geth to make them harder as a enemy but to buff them and then take away the skill that can beat them is just stupid! It takes 8 *EIGHT* seconds for your hacked geth to pull any aggro or even move/shoot! Thats from the 15 seconds that you have them hacked before IF ITS A FULL DURATION! For you to be fighting to see this is telling me that you fail to understand tthe full mechanics of the skill.

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#222
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:18

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So they broke quarian infiltrators? Oh well never used em anyways. Salarians are way better

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:18

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Wow really kid? Lets see BioWare made Sabotage almost useless against the geth and turrents now. So what the hell is the difference bettween a Quarian and a damn Human. *HINT* THERE IS NONE. Quarians are now missing their skill which made them any good and to say that they are still good is to be ignorant! I would be ok with the buffs BioWare did to the geth to make them harder as a enemy but to buff them and then take away the skill that can beat them is just stupid! It takes 8 *EIGHT* seconds for your hacked geth to pull any aggro or even move/shoot! Thats from the 15 seconds that you have them hacked before IF ITS A FULL DURATION! For you to be fighting to see this is telling me that you fail to understand tthe full mechanics of the skill.


The 8 seconds only applies to other Geth attacking the hacked target. Your hacked Geth will still attack other things during that time.

Other than one false point, you haven't actually said why Sabotage is bad beyond "it's bad".

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:19

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GGW KillerTiger wrote...

So they broke quarian infiltrators? Oh well never used em anyways. Salarians are way better


They are now! LOL

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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:20

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x Riddler x wrote...

Cyonan wrote...


Explain to me how Quarian Infiltrators are worthless.

You need to say more than "Sabotage is ruined and is bad". I need specifics.


Wow really kid? Lets see BioWare made Sabotage almost useless against the geth and turrents now. So what the hell is the difference bettween a Quarian and a damn Human. *HINT* THERE IS NONE. Quarians are now missing their skill which made them any good and to say that they are still good is to be ignorant! I would be ok with the buffs BioWare did to the geth to make them harder as a enemy but to buff them and then take away the skill that can beat them is just stupid! It takes 8 *EIGHT* seconds for your hacked geth to pull any aggro or even move/shoot! Thats from the 15 seconds that you have them hacked before IF ITS A FULL DURATION! For you to be fighting to see this is telling me that you fail to understand tthe full mechanics of the skill.

Uh I think they also reduced the sabatoge skill to go from a duration of 15 to 10 seconds? ..... So yea that's 2 seconds of the hacked unit being useful to you? 0.0
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