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[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I know about 90% of those posting will say "it doesn't matter anyway because of blah blah blah in the end" and so what if that's so. Just don't bother posting that, okay? I don't want another thread about the ending.

We're aboard the Normandy. Legion starts talking about the Reaper code controlling the Geth, and this is where the conversation takes a very negative turn. I know a lot of you feel that the Quarians deserve what they got being driven from their homeworld. Now humans are also nomads except for the resistance fighting on earth, so we're in the same boat. Legion talks about uploading the Reaper code to the Geth and sending the Geth to help Earth. I tell it "No." The Geth were hacked twice already, what about a third time? Legion is not happy, but it agrees.

So we first rescue Korlis then onto the Reaper base. I did the Geth base and went and did the Reaper base, but my auto save got corrupted, so I had to redo the entire mission. Stupid machine. I saw the Geth base as a propaganda machine, with Legion showing more of what happened during the Morning War from the Geth point of view. It looked to me like the Quarians were in conflict about the whole thing which the Geth exploited.

Now at the Reaper base, it divulges that it has Reaper code. It is capable of the wondeful qualities of deceit, and shame. And after killing the Reaper, it decides it is going to upload the Reaper code despite agreeing not to. So the 0.5 second decision happens regarding Legion. Legion has to die. I know if one's rep is high enough one might be able to gain the support of both, but I feared a while back that the Geth would end up being our own Reapers eventually. I agree with Javik about machines. So Tali and Shepard killed Legion with the three renegade interrupts, the Geth destroyed, and the Quarians have their homeworld back.

There was no hesitation. No uncertainty. It felt good. It was a victory. I needed a victory.

I also fear the same about EDI, but that's another thread. I had to lie to her back on the ship, but something tells me she'll have to be unplugged.

How did y'all handle Rannoch?

[405thRazgriz]

Being the war-monger I am, I opted for peace between the two.

Wait wut

[Eterna]

I achieved peace between the two. At first I killed legion....... but when he said "Tali Zorah......does this platform...have a...." I knew I made a terrible mistake and reloaded a save to make sure I could fix it.

Modifié par Eterna5, 13 mars 2012 - 08:29 .

[Neizd]

I made peace betwen the two groups. Legion sacrifice is painfull since he was a part of my Shepard crew but it was a good and honorable death. He gave the geth new life and it was well handled. Nothing to regret.

[SandTrout]

I managed Peace. Had I not managed to convince the Admiral to stand down, I would have killed Legion though.

You will soon see the wisdom of those warning you that it doesn't really matter.

Modifié par SandTrout, 13 mars 2012 - 08:32 .

[Soban]

the first time around I did not have enough paragon points to save them both. However, the ending was sop heartbreaking. For me the turning point was Tali saying something like. "Sure we got Rannoch back, but we had to murder a friend to do it." After that I went back and redid it so that I saved both.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

SandTrout wrote...

I managed Peace. Had I not managed to convince the Admiral to stand down, I would have killed Legion though.

You will soon see the wisdom of those warning you that it doesn't really matter.

Exactly this.

[Narelda]

Saved them both, but I doubt I could let Tali die over the Geth if there wasn't a choice.

[Legendaryred]

You killed Legion? a machine that ultimately obtains full individuality and self sacrifices so his people can gain individuality. Huh.

[Ares14916]

I'd been planning to get a peace between both of them since ME2, and I managed to pull it off.

[Xycolian]

I gave the Geth what they wanted, and even though Tali was my LI, I didn't reload. I forced myself to live with the consequences.

Although that's not saying much since apparently there's a glitch that forces you to see the love scene with Tali even though shes dead (wtf Bioware)... even though I wished I had her back this glitch pissed me off because I thought I would never see her again and had made a huge sacrifice to defeat the reapers but seeing her again just made me feel sad and angry

[FlyingCow371]

I played the peacemaker route. Legion had my back during Mass Effect 2. Turning an enemy into an ally always felt like a more powerful way to end an enemy. During the Geth base I did see the start of their war from the Geth point of view, and saw a few quarians trying to defend the Geth. I saw the lack of direction from the Geth that saw its masters killed in front of it. I saw how they used to work together, and wondered if that would ever be possible again.

My choice might have been colored by one of the quarians' largest pro-war dudes trying to blow up a ship while I was still on it. Upon my return I punched that fool and threw him off my ship...wasn't too happy with the Quarians at that point, even though I was still friends with Tali and was cool with the other admiral/leader who was on board my ship.

That war had been going on for centuries, and it was sounding like the geth didn't actually want to fight, but were continuing because they felt they had no choice. I wanted to give them a chance to make that choice, so I talked down the fleet. I had enough of hearing about their **** over the past two games. The Quarians stopped fighting, no more of them would have to die for their attempt at genocide. And the Geth remain as well. They return to the Quarian homeworld and together, Geth and Quarians, rebuild. The Geth help the quarian immune system re-adapt so that they'll be able to live without suits sooner.

There was no hesitation. The reapers were a much larger threat, they both needed to get over their many centuries old ****. It was a great victory.

[Eterna]

Xycolian wrote...

I gave the Geth what they wanted, and even though Tali was my LI, I didn't reload. I forced myself to live with the consequences.

Although that's not saying much since apparently there's a glitch that forces you to see the love scene with Tali even though shes dead (wtf Bioware)... even though I wished I had her back this glitch pissed me off because I thought I would never see her again and had made a huge sacrifice to defeat the reapers but seeing her again just made me feel sad and angry

When she jumps off the cliff she was probably only going for a quick swim. 

[Lethys1]

The Quarians are horrible people and earned any punishment they would have gotten...but because the Reapers were more important, I opted for peace between the two.  I wish that option wasn't there honestly, it kind of delegitimizes the seriousness of their conflict.

And it makes for the choice to be much easier than it should be.  But if not given the option, I save the Geth.

[The Almighty Ali]

I saw it differently, I saw it as the Geth starting to think for themselves which scared most Quarians, some weren't and tried to protect the Geth but they were removed and the geth was systematically attempted to be completely destroyed, until one fought back. The fact that they stopped once the Quarians fleed showed they didn't intend to completely remove the threat.

Then Legion came around and were around Shepard and Tali, Legion seemed different which infact he was as he was the Geth that first fought back. However over time he seems to want the Geth to be like him. Intelligent and not just linked up machines. He also seems to understand Tali's point of view and shows and agrees that Quarians did try to protect the Geth. The Geth never wanted to start the war in the first place, it happened because they tried to survive.

When Legion started uploading the reaper code I let him, despite Tali being my Shepards LI, not because I wanted the geth on my side, but that I knew that now would be the best chance to negotiate peace between them. It was a gamble, very high risk gamble. In the end, The Quarians returned to Rannoch with the Geth aiding them in settling down.

The gamble paid off.

[TarielMaeda]

I wanted peace since ME2 when Legion said that's all the Geth wanted and to hear from Tali that thee Quarians are becoming better with Geth help made it all the more pleasing.

For the moment.

[Peete]

First I had to go through seeing my favorite race, the Quarians, go basically extinct (for a reason I today cannot fathom I decided to play paragon).
Then I thought, never again!
Made a new character and went renegade all the way - only to have enough reputation to persuade them to make peace.

ah well.

Had otherwise perpared to gloat as the Quarians ripped the machines to pieces.

That said, Legion does make a very, very fine sales pitch for the survival of his race. I was a bit dissapointed that he had to go just as I began liking him.

[Ianamus]

I made peace in the end, but I did call out Legion for lying to me several times.

Had I been forced to choose I would have sided with the Quarians. I watched the scene when you side with the Geth and the Quarians pretty much beg to retreat, but are ordered to attack until they die. Horrible.

[GhostlyMaiden]

Managed to get peace. I'd always been sympathetic with the geth even back in ME1 when Tali mentioned that they tried to destroy the geth, because it was inevitable they would turn on them. Then in ME2 I met Legion and actually started to like them as they are. Then ME3, I got a little paranoid for a minute. After Anders in DA2, I started to get worried that Legion may have been compromised by the Reapers when he got all strung up. Watching the scenes in the geth consensus increased my sympathy, but if the charm/intimidate options never popped up, I would have let the geth die simply because I couldn't put Tali-girl through the consequences of the other option.

[Harbinger of Hope]

Peace here. IMO, synthetic or no, they are still sentient. They still have a "soul".

[Ianamus]

GhostlyMaiden wrote...

Managed to get peace. I'd always been sympathetic with the geth even back in ME1 when Tali mentioned that they tried to destroy the geth, because it was inevitable they would turn on them. Then in ME2 I met Legion and actually started to like them as they are. Then ME3, I got a little paranoid for a minute. After Anders in DA2, I started to get worried that Legion may have been compromised by the Reapers when he got all strung up. Watching the scenes in the geth consensus increased my sympathy, but if the charm/intimidate options never popped up, I would have let the geth die simply because I couldn't put Tali-girl through the consequences of the other option.

I was very worried they'd go the "Geth are now all evil" route and I'm glad they did not. Although the ending basically said as flatly as possible "All AI are evil". I can't believe Shepard does not have the option to argue against him, especially if the Geth are actually helping you to fight the Reapers, and made peace with the Quarians.

[PX6DEVASTATER]

I brokered peace between the two. Went perfect with my pure Paragon Shepard.

[PX6DEVASTATER]

I brokered peace between the two. Went perfect with my pure Paragon Shepard.

[Grumpy-Mcfart]

Narelda wrote...

Saved them both, but I doubt I could let Tali die over the Geth if there wasn't a choice.

this.

[Mandemon]

 Moment the Legion asked "We just wish to live. Do we... deserve death?" was the moment I decided that this thign had gone long enough. Quarians need their planet, their lifestyle is horrible. Geth deserve their live. So made peace.
It also helped that I realised that Geth weren't "hacked", so to speak. They accepted Reaper help and then got cheated. It ment to me that Geth would need to allow Reapers the first access and after that disaster, they would not allow it.

When Legion offered to make all Geth true AI, i decided to gamble. Perhaps peace could be made.

I too feared that there would be another hack, but I decided to gamble it. Just like I gambeled Rachni. I had to choose between Killing the Queen or releasing her in the first game and again in 3rd, except here it was "Queen or Grunt". I seriously expected Grunt to die.

Still, I once again gambeled on Rachni and helped the Queen. I felt pure joy when Grunt walked out covered in Rachni blood after I tought he was dead.

Basicly, I gambled more than once and it paid off. These characters, who I had helped and who respected me, made it possible for me to achieve solutiosn that normaly I couldn't.

Then again, none of this matters because God-AI decided it knows better.

Modifié par Mandemon, 13 mars 2012 - 09:19 .