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[TheKingofRedLions]

Glad you have no issue, you should probably go back to playing the game then.

[species.zero]

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned this: you can't be "in" a relay tunnel anyway.

It's established in the codex and books that movement from one relay to another is instantaneous. So the whole scene where the Normandy is in some sort of tunnel trying to run away from the space magic doesn't make sense to begin with, and by extension, neither does the crash landing.

[Druzgot]

Malanek999 Maybe, so they could easyli give us only beggining and end of story and we must explain it for ourselfe how i t happened

[Carlthestrange]

Kinda supports the indoctrination theory really, given all the plot holes at the end.

[The Angry One]

species.zero wrote...

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned this: you can't be "in" a relay tunnel anyway.

It's established in the codex and books that movement from one relay to another is instantaneous. So the whole scene where the Normandy is in some sort of tunnel trying to run away from the space magic doesn't make sense to begin with, and by extension, neither does the crash landing.

Because that was for better or worse retconned in ME2 where you see the Normandy transit through a relay tunnel for some time.

[Daedrus_0837]

gxkrizard wrote...

Imagine that you see big explosion going in your direction. I mean the one that can destroy Earth, before Crucible even shoots. If it is harmless, then Shepard probably is alive (at least that's what Joker may think) and can be saved later. But if it can destroy the ship, then it's Joker's responsibility to make sure his crew survive. It's not like he need to stay there and wait for death, because Shepard isn't on board. So he escapes through mass relay, and then we know what's happening.

Prove me wrong.

SOL's Mass Effect Relay is called the Arcturus Relay and is outside of the orbit of Jupiter. There's no way that the Normandy can get from Earth to the relay in the span of 20 seconds. Furthermore, initiating the jump takes a few seconds as is.

Also, the final scene showing Joker and various crewmembers leaving the wreckage shows crewmembers that were on Earth with you (or have died, ), which is a plot-hole in and of itself, as the Normandy wouldn't survive the journey down to Hammer FOB (they lost 1/2 of the ground forces that were arriving in shuttles... the Normandy SR-2 is massive and would have been an easy target).

[Druzgot]

yoshibb acctualy logic of GOD-KID i my oppinion was good. He dont want to let us live because we would make synthetics which will destroy EVERY organic life. He just destroy hight tech life, we would destroy all life

[Fireclown2020]

species.zero wrote...

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned this: you can't be "in" a relay tunnel anyway.

It's established in the codex and books that movement from one relay to another is instantaneous. So the whole scene where the Normandy is in some sort of tunnel trying to run away from the space magic doesn't make sense to begin with, and by extension, neither does the crash landing.

Tell the truth I thought they were just Flying away from the Blast.  They never went through the Relay, they were in FTL to escape the Major Blast coming there way.



But all is good.

[Troubleshooter11]

Now the only thing that would make sense is if the Normandy "fleeing" was during a Destroy option which totally fails and starts to wipe out all life and Joker slams the Normandy into FTL. This would account for the "slowly creeping up" that the field does. But it does look more like a beam shot from a relay.

Or extremely poor/lazy animating and scripting.

[Madmoe77]

My question is; how did glassboy survive the crash? Joker is seriously fragile and he walked away first and without any noticeable injury.

[cyclopsgd]

gxkrizard wrote...

 Prove me wrong.

prove your self right

[Troubleshooter11]

Daedrus_0837 wrote...

SOL's Mass Effect Relay is called the Arcturus Relay and is outside of the orbit of Jupiter. There's no way that the Normandy can get from Earth to the relay in the span of 20 seconds. Furthermore, initiating the jump takes a few seconds as is.

I hate correcting people as it makes me sound like a know-it-all, but the Sol's relay is called the Charon relay. Acturus Relay is actually "next door". Check it on the galaxy map ingame, it's the sector where you also find the wreckage of Acturus Station.

[Legendaryred]

You do realize the Mass Relay is not right next to earth?

[yoshibb]

Druzgot wrote...

yoshibb acctualy logic of GOD-KID i my oppinion was good. He dont want to let us live because we would make synthetics which will destroy EVERY organic life. He just destroy hight tech life, we would destroy all life

Um how about they just start a garden or something? You know, instead of jumping to conclusions and wiping out civilization every 50000 years?

[Troubleshooter11]

Madmoe77 wrote...

My question is; how did glassboy survive the crash? Joker is seriously fragile and he walked away first and without any noticeable injury.

Engineer Donnelly forshadowed this by mentioning that EDI wouldnt get hurt if she bumped into something because of her plentiful  "padding".

Joker used EDI's body as a cushion, clearly.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

LolaLei wrote...

That and the fact that the crew weren't in the Normandy at the time, they were fighting on earth so Joker would have no reason to try to fly off and save the crew because they werent on board.

Exactly. It's not a plothole. It's just unexplained because we are given any information about when or why the Normandy is running, except that presumeably the Charon relay blowing up is doing to Sol what the Alpha relay did to Arahtot...

Dead Garrus being alive on the Normandy, now that's a plothole.

[KainrycKarr]

gxkrizard wrote...

Imagine that you see big explosion going in your direction. I mean the one that can destroy Earth, before Crucible even shoots. If it is harmless, then Shepard probably is alive (at least that's what Joker may think) and can be saved later. But if it can destroy the ship, then it's Joker's responsibility to make sure his crew survive. It's not like he need to stay there and wait for death, because Shepard isn't on board. So he escapes through mass relay, and then we know what's happening.

Prove me wrong.

Why isn't he with the rest of the fleet?

[Darth Malignus]

Neuthung wrote...

Why would he just leave? Joker is no coward. How do dead crewmates end up on board? I know for damn sure Liara wouldn't leave my shep. Why would his first thought be "better get to the relay?" It doesn't make sense because it isn't consistent with any other event in the series.

Th Matrix is everywhere. No one ever tell you that?

[The Angry One]

Madmoe77 wrote...

My question is; how did glassboy survive the crash? Joker is seriously fragile and he walked away first and without any noticeable injury.

Because that's what an indoctrinated Shepard would want to see.

[Reaper horn]

[Tsantilas]

Madmoe77 wrote...

My question is; how did glassboy survive the crash? Joker is seriously fragile and he walked away first and without any noticeable injury.

This.  I keep forgetting to bring it up whenever this topic arises, but even if you ignore the fact that he would break simply from a bumpy ride, how is it reasonable that everyone survived a crash landing with engines blown and multiple hull breaches, but suddenly Shepard surviving a fall to earth from the citadel is "PROOF THAT HE IS INDOCTRINATED!!"?

[The Angry One]

yoshibb wrote...

Druzgot wrote...

yoshibb acctualy logic of GOD-KID i my oppinion was good. He dont want to let us live because we would make synthetics which will destroy EVERY organic life. He just destroy hight tech life, we would destroy all life

Um how about they just start a garden or something? You know, instead of jumping to conclusions and wiping out civilization every 50000 years?

You are officially smarter than the Catalyst.

[Fireclown2020]

Legendaryred wrote...

You do realize the Mass Relay is not right next to earth?

I'm going to be pedantic.  Yes it is, the biggest one, the Citadel.   Teehee

[Rip The Reaper]

yoshibb wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

tersidre wrote...

does nobody else remember the conversation between shepard and joker near the end? Shepard tells him "take care of her" so he was fufilling his promise in not letting the normandy be destroyed... again....

And so he got the Normandy destroyed.
Makes sense.

About as much sense as synthetics killing organics to stop synthetics from killing organics *shrugs*

yeah it's stupid, i wish as shepard you could've said somthing like that to the catalyst kid. While going threw the convo for the first time i suspected the child was just AI with flawed logic

[Eyjh]

furthermore, what are the chances of being blown through space and landing on a habitable planet? its not like your in the sea and the waves may carry you to shore. the probability is astronomically tiny.

[shepskisaac]

yoshibb wrote...

Druzgot wrote...

yoshibb acctualy logic of GOD-KID i my oppinion was good. He dont want to let us live because we would make synthetics which will destroy EVERY organic life. He just destroy hight tech life, we would destroy all life

Um how about they just start a garden or something? You know, instead of jumping to conclusions and wiping out civilization every 50000 years?

This is what catalyst believes. It doesn't matter if it's true. Catalyst believed it was which is why it created the cycle. As Shep, you don't have to agree with him that technological singularity will happen.