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[SilencedScream]

Sounds better to me.

[Calavan]

Just checked IMDB. The voice actor for Harbinger in ME2 was Keith Szarabajka and in fact you're right, he wasn't in ME3. Bizarre, it never occurred to me Harbinger never spoke.

Edit:  His IMDB page 
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0843775/   and, to confirm, the ME3 voice cast http://www.imdb.com/...ullcredits#cast 

Of course, even if they couldn't get him it seems like they haven't had any problem with recasting other voice actors.  That still seems like a better course of action than completely writing him out of the game and replacing him with the kid.

Modifié par Calavan, 13 mars 2012 - 10:03 .

[Pedro Costa]

Would have loved this. Seriously, I would.

[pomrink]

Calavan wrote...

Just checked IMDB. The voice actor for Harbinger in ME2 was Keith Szarabajka and in fact you're right, he wasn't in ME3. Bizarre, it never occurred to me Harbinger never spoke.

what a minute...the burned man and every dark elf from skyrim voiced harbinger?

[Calavan]

apparently; looks like he's been pretty busy...maybe he just wasn't available.

[Bachi1230]

This ending is x1000 better. I wanted a choice in how this ended, not railraoded.

[ticklefist]

Another scrapped or fan contrived ending that is still more satisfying than the official ending.

[ticklefist]

Calavan wrote...

Just checked IMDB. The voice actor for Harbinger in ME2 was Keith Szarabajka and in fact you're right, he wasn't in ME3. Bizarre, it never occurred to me Harbinger never spoke.

Edit:  His IMDB page 
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0843775/   and, to confirm, the ME3 voice cast http://www.imdb.com/...ullcredits#cast 

Of course, even if they couldn't get him it seems like they haven't had any problem with recasting other voice actors.  That still seems like a better course of action than completely writing him out of the game and replacing him with the kid.

In all fairness, that ME3 cast list is incomplete. Jo Wyatt's not listed but she was Dr. Brynn Cole (Jacob's new girlfriend).

[Sparbiter]

Guess it doesn't matter if I believe this or not, but it does fit with what I've believed all along.

They ran out of time and had to rush an ending. I just beat the game again to get the insanity achievement:

Your two squad mates on the London mission are running with you twoards the beam. I double checked and turned around before sprinting towards the teleporter. Both of them, kinda jogging behind me. After you get LAZORED, I looked for their bodies on the ground. Nada. Then of course they are the ones jumping out of the crashed Normandy.

That's the thing I just won't be able to get over. And that's why I won't listen to anyone who blasts the forums for disliking the endings: "The endings are fine".... No, they aren't. Not until this is explained.

And the whole "use your imigination" thing is just as insulting.

[Miraider]

Calavan wrote...

Just checked IMDB. The voice actor for Harbinger in ME2 was Keith Szarabajka and in fact you're right, he wasn't in ME3. Bizarre, it never occurred to me Harbinger never spoke.

There are mentioned VAs for Kal'Reegar, Gianna Parasini and Shiala who aren't in the game

Modifié par Miraider, 13 mars 2012 - 10:22 .

[TSSR666]

This feels... right. Not substantially different from the ending we got, yet fleshed out where they needed to be. I'm going to dive in to some hard core file searching, but the dialogue is in there to indicate all of this, hidden away.

I now honestly think they ran out of time. The pre-renders had to be created separately, so they pieced together what they had and prayed no one would notice.

[Myrmedus]

It reminds me of the end of KOTOR2 where you could clearly see the game was just wrapped up asap and didn't make a whole lot of sense.

[Mox Ruuga]

Most likely someone's fanfic, yet much better than what Bioware put in the final release.

Such a shame... ME3 has all sorts of great stuff, poignant even at times... It had all the potential in the world... but the lousy endings just annihilate the replay value of the trilogy.

Damn shame.

[Merengues 1945]

Still don't like... it's just a little more deep than the ending of ME3 but still your choices appear to have nothing to do with the ending.

[NightHawkIL]

Sounds good to me. Not great, but not bad enough that I would have really had anything negative to say afterwards without thinking about it. I like the motivation for the reapers, that's a cool one I hadn't thought of. I still like the dark energy plot better, and am disappointed that it didn't get resolved after all that went on in ME2, but the reapers wanting to keep technology below themselves is also reasonable.

[KingNothing125]

See how much better these endings are when you don't have some stupid supernatural being? That write-up is basically the same as what we got (the part concerning the three choices at least), but it's made much more tolerable simply by using Harbinger (presumably using a method similar to the one Sovereign used on Virmire) to talk to Shepard instead of some quasi-supernatural-AI-Starchild thing. Even if it is just some guy's fanfic rewrite.

[Almostfaceman]

If this is true (I stress if) then it would have been a big step up from what we have now and the big dust-up we have now would have never happened.

[GimmeDaGun]

Damn, I love these games, I love ME3, I kind of enjoyed the ending (I deliberately use singular) as well, but reading this and listening to the extended Anderson - Shepard conversation (that piece is pure gold... why throw it away?)... also thinking back to the leaked script which had similar ways of endings...NOW I ALSO SAY THAT I WANT THESE ENDINGS (emphasys on the "S") BACK. How could they drop such great ending options, such epic ending options for what we eventually got. Damn it Bio! Give us fans some more and be kind enough to release these endings as a dlc-patch for free... or for money if you put some more extra content in it. I'd buy it any day!

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 13 mars 2012 - 10:52 .

[London]

I want this ending.

[GimmeDaGun]

KingNothing125 wrote...

See how much better these endings are when you don't have some stupid supernatural being? That write-up is basically the same as what we got (the part concerning the three choices at least), but it's made much more tolerable simply by using Harbinger (presumably using a method similar to the one Sovereign used on Virmire) to talk to Shepard instead of some quasi-supernatural-AI-Starchild thing. Even if it is just some guy's fanfic rewrite.

They could even use the form of the child-ghost with Harbinger's voice... and it would be a nice twist if it turned out that Harbinger is acutally the Catalyst... the king of the reapers' soul lives in the Citadell... the first reaper nation's essence is what is needed to complete the Crucible and destroy the reaper armada... by destroying their first born along with his false ideas... damn, that would have made a lot more sense... and it would have given a much better closure to the whole Saren-Anderson-Harper(TIM)-Shepard-Reapers arc of the ME universe. Damn... I want it...

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 13 mars 2012 - 11:01 .

[AdmiralCheez]

If this is legit, I am going to find the people that made the decision to scrap these endings and give them a good paddlin'.

Fellas. Seriously. I'd take back the Garrus kisses to have this stuff in. And the Garrus kisses were the best part of ME3.

[JimJohnJim]

Yeah, this is more in-depth of what we got. Its still a bit.. limited, but its eons better.

[stysiaq]

Well, I think that actually make sense. The endings that we got (and which I refuse to accept) seem so out of the blue and badly written, that drastic changes caused by deadlines or pressure from EA seem like only possible scenario.

With these I could live.
And in this version the 'control' is finally kind of paragon choice, because the destruction scale is minimal (I assume that Shepard lives in the 'original' control ending). Also, no speaking Harbinger was a major pain for me.

[TheCreeper]

As I said before, if this is true we need to find a way to convince Bioware to put it back in.

[Tispower]

Myrmedus wrote...

It reminds me of the end of KOTOR2 where you could clearly see the game was just wrapped up asap and didn't make a whole lot of sense.

Really hope that wasn't the case