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[Rob_K1]

As my posts in the big thread here didn't seem to get many replies, I thought I'd create a new topic as someone thought the bolded part of my quote below is well worth having a topic in its own right to be discussed:

(I do recommend reading the entire quoted post and looking at the links provided, but I do want people to mostly focus on the bolded part)

Rob_K1 wrote...

Been thinking about this too. I cleared the game yesterday.

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but I'd like to draw your attention to specific points in the videos below:

Kid dream sequence

Go to around 7:47. Listen to the sounds. In particular, the wind. Then, listen to the music around 8:20.

Approaching the conduit

Go to around 16:02. Doesn't the wind and such familiar? I know, I know, it's wind... but still. Even when Shepard gets 'hit' or 'knocked out', the tune sounds similar to the one in the dream sequence with the kid, as the next scene loads. Not exactly the same, but similar.

Talking with the Illusive Man

Go to around 4:21. As Shepard's actions are being controlled, that is one heck of a strange noise. Possibly fits in with noises mentioned in the Indoctrination codex entry? Either way, it's one heck of a funny noise. Note that Shepard also seems to be suffering from bad headaches as he is being controlled. The headaches are definitely referenced in the codex entry anyway and they were mentioned in ME 2. Also, Anderson and the Illusive Man, if the theory is correct, would represent two diferent parts of Shepard's conscience. One fighting the effects of succumbing and one wanting to succumb.

Talking with the 'child'

Finally, go to around 3:21. Now then, all of the above I can chalk up to me reading too much into things, quite possibly. However, the child's words around this point, I cannot simply chalk up to me reading too much into things and clinging onto false hope (keep in mind I have no problem with the endings either, though more would be nice).

So, what has me dead set on thinking it's a dream/indoctrination attempt? The child says that if Shepard picks the destroy ending, he'd wipe out all synthetic life. The child also says that Shepard is partly synthetic. To me, that implies that Shepard would also be killed. Does it imply the same to others? So, if Shepard would be destroyed, why exactly is he seen breathing if you get the 'perfect' ending?

That's not even touching the rubble either, as I'm trying to not mention things people already have. (Apologies if others have mentioned these things). Also, again, the tune at this point again seemed similar in tone to the dream sequence.

So again, aside from the last point I raised here, I can chalk everything up to me reading too much into things. Surely, if everything the child said was true etc., then there should be no way Shepard could survive the destroy ending. This is ignoring everything else Shepard would need to survive as well, meaning the fall to
earth/explosion.

Edit: What I cannot explain though is why that epilogue scene with the grandfather and child plays no matter what
choice you make. If it is a dream/hallucination/indoctrination attempt, then surely the Reapers would win? Unless people do it without him, but he was just integral in giving the galaxy the chance to win, therefore
still being heralded as a hero.

In addition to what I'd originally wrote, I'd like to post one additional link that would support the theory on everything not being reality after Shepard gets 'hit/knocked out', though I cannot take credit for originally finding this link/evidence. Wish I knew who it was that originally found it, but that thread is gigantic:

Shepard alive after the destroy ending

Go to around 4:34 and listen. Does it not sound like a Reaper noise? When they should all be wiped out, in addition to Shepard.

Edit: Missed the link for the destroy ending part.

Modifié par Rob_K1, 13 mars 2012 - 10:08 .