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http://www.dailymoti...itch_videogames
People like this at the reason honest players don't have commendation packs from this weekend


That video isn't working for me bu last weekend on 360 in a Silver lobby someone tried to get me to do an expoit involving dying on wave 11, reloading with Gold setting and continuing with the three others in the lobby.  He took a very long time to describe the exact process - when I heard it was a cheat\\exploit he was going to do I left the lobby and found a legit match.  I just can't understand those people's mind sets.

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Dark Ix Jeremeh wrote...

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Just had a game where a guy started hacking in wave six, floating way above the level and being invincible. He was also somehow making the other players health/shields restore themselves. I chewed him out, and told him to leave, and he did. A few seconds later, I am disconnected from EA online (I was the host).

Pretty retarded.


That's not hacking, it's a glitch. The guy was most likely a Vanguard. When you biotic charge too much this tends to happen and you end up flying out of the map and not being able to come back. If this happens on a map other then White or Ghost (which they fixed from the demo) then your shields will instantly regenerate. I've had this happen to me a bunch of times and I've seen it happen a bunch of times to people mainly playing on Firebase Giant. Vanguards do not work well on that map.

Getting kicked from the EA servers was just a coincidence. It's happened to me 3 or 5 times now mid game and it's really annoying. It's happened to me at Wave 10 of gold right after getting the credits... So I ended up with nothing.


This happened a couple of times to one of my friends in a match.  he couldn't die and he couldn't move and he couldn't kill, he just floated there helplessly.  On wave 11 on Silver the three of us died with him still "alive" and we had to end the game because he couldn't revive us nor could he kill the remaining enemies (or be killed to end the match).  Horrible chance glitch in the gameplay.

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Apologies if this issue has been brought up already, but I saw something strange on XBL multiplayer yesterday.  A member of a multiplayer room I was in had a Level 49 (O_O) Salarian Infiltrator class.  I'm pretty sure anything above 20 is impossible, so I'm wondering if someone could explain to me if that was a hack or some other method of cheating.  In the match, however, they had a Turian character out, so I'm not quite sure what I saw.

Any ideas?

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If you look at the huge scores on the multiplayer ranks for the U.S. and global you will see some people are in the 4500+ N7 rating, you get 120 for getting all 6 classes to level 20, then 10 when you promote them, and I believe 1 N7 for making another character in that class, so having 4500 after a week of the release is a total hack.

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I encountered something weird today. In one of my silver match, I couldn't pick up any ammo, and the host is using a Widow like assault rifle. He doesn't need to reload in any case!! I guess that's cheating, right?

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Are these hacks mostly on the PC side? Or are then on XBL and PSN? I haven't seen anyone hacking personally and I am on XBL.

Modifié par diggisaur, 07 avril 2012 - 10:23 .


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What has me worried, is that they simply do the reporting via email and theres no ingame screen or vid cap, anyone can report anyone else from cheating simply if they ****** em off... Really iffy way of handling reports, to say the least. but a good A+ for the effort.

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x12796 wrote...

Dark Ix Jeremeh wrote...

Choc wrote...

Just had a game where a guy started hacking in wave six, floating way above the level and being invincible. He was also somehow making the other players health/shields restore themselves. I chewed him out, and told him to leave, and he did. A few seconds later, I am disconnected from EA online (I was the host).

Pretty retarded.


That's not hacking, it's a glitch. The guy was most likely a Vanguard. When you biotic charge too much this tends to happen and you end up flying out of the map and not being able to come back. If this happens on a map other then White or Ghost (which they fixed from the demo) then your shields will instantly regenerate. I've had this happen to me a bunch of times and I've seen it happen a bunch of times to people mainly playing on Firebase Giant. Vanguards do not work well on that map.

Getting kicked from the EA servers was just a coincidence. It's happened to me 3 or 5 times now mid game and it's really annoying. It's happened to me at Wave 10 of gold right after getting the credits... So I ended up with nothing.


This happened a couple of times to one of my friends in a match.  he couldn't die and he couldn't move and he couldn't kill, he just floated there helplessly.  On wave 11 on Silver the three of us died with him still "alive" and we had to end the game because he couldn't revive us nor could he kill the remaining enemies (or be killed to end the match).  Horrible chance glitch in the gameplay.


sadly this happens with others than just vanguards too  >_< me and my mate had it happen to us when he was a krogan sentinel and i was playing a krogan soldier... really shame of wiping a gold mission because of 2 people being unable to do anything...

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WOW!!!!!!!!! Thats all I can say. I cant believe the gamers that blatently admit to hacking files and cheating.
Now I dont post on forums because I dont have the time but I have been gaming for over 30 years,. Now back then the graphics of the Atari, colecovision, intellivison really sucked but it was nice to know I didnt need to worry about cheaters.
I really dont care what explanation you have or what defence you have, CHEATING IS CHEATING!!!! It doesnt matter if its Bioware games, MW3, BF3, etc.. There are so so many damn cheaters out there its not fun anymore.
And to top it off, the cheaters have the nerve to brag about KD ratios, N7 ratings, etc. Pathetic!!
They are ruining the gameplay for the honest gamers.And when I spend hard earned money on games I expect to enjoy them. Now I know I cant use certain words on the forum but hackers and cheaters need to get their nuts crushed. Its so damn frustrating, no matter how you look at it.
If your so good at hacking then go to school, get a real job, and help the gaming community.
I hope that Bioware IP bans these idiots for life............NO EXCEPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And last but not least, Bioware really needs to look at the leaderboards. I have been playing ME3 milti-player since the day it came out and have an N7 of about 600 and have promoted every character as soon as I hit Lv20, but the top ranking (For xbox) is over 4000??? What the heck? It takes about a half hour to finish a match and you need quite a bit to level one character to lv20. Theres just not enough time for a gamer to get 4000 N7 rating.
So who does it hurt? Everyone who is playing legit and have a competitive attitude!!!!


I remember looking at the leaderboards one day and noticing the top looked like it was over 200k. Right now it's a little over 4k, so I guess they've cracked down on cheaters really.

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Lord Irvine: I havent seen it quite that high but its all about time> If you have any intelligence at all, just figure out how long it takes to finish a match and the points you get. There is just no time to get to 4000+. I dont even think there is time for 2000+ so I hope (As a consumer of every Bioware game) they really remove these idiots from the leader boards.
I am not the best player nor do I claim to be but if someone is going to beat me on the leaderboards I would at least like it to be legit.
Like I said before, "CHEATING IS CHEATING".
And last but certainly not least, as a first time poster I would have thought Iwould get alot of negitive comments from those trying to defend the cheaters but its nice to see alot of gamers are on the same page. It shows me there is hope for online gaming. Thanks fellow gamers!!!!

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ISLANDFOCUS wrote...

Lord Irvine: I havent seen it quite that high but its all about time> If you have any intelligence at all, just figure out how long it takes to finish a match and the points you get. There is just no time to get to 4000+. I dont even think there is time for 2000+ so I hope (As a consumer of every Bioware game) they really remove these idiots from the leader boards.
I am not the best player nor do I claim to be but if someone is going to beat me on the leaderboards I would at least like it to be legit.
Like I said before, "CHEATING IS CHEATING".
And last but certainly not least, as a first time poster I would have thought Iwould get alot of negitive comments from those trying to defend the cheaters but its nice to see alot of gamers are on the same page. It shows me there is hope for online gaming. Thanks fellow gamers!!!!


Some people have all the time in the world. Stay up day and night constantly playing, putting your money into buying Bioware Points just to get Spectre Packs and such, and just putting everything into multiplayer. It's crazy, but I think like that then it is possible.

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So, where should I be posting where some shots become blank shots maybe due to latency issues or host issues? I have had this happen to me many times. While using the stealth cloak I can sometimes shoot 1-3 sniper shots before dispelling the cloak. I also have had times where cloak disappears and my gun is still stealth. Random errors in the programming/coding? Or heavy melee with a Cerberus trooper and my melee does nothing while the ai kicks my a**. Scoping in and targeting an enemy's part just above cover misses like every single time? Or moving out of heavy melee range and still taking the full brunt of the damage? [More of glitches than cheating] Or walking onto areas that your are not suppose to? Not really an significant thing, just giving a heads up.

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Roshido wrote...

So, where should I be posting where some shots become blank shots maybe due to latency issues or host issues? I have had this happen to me many times. While using the stealth cloak I can sometimes shoot 1-3 sniper shots before dispelling the cloak. I also have had times where cloak disappears and my gun is still stealth. Random errors in the programming/coding? Or heavy melee with a Cerberus trooper and my melee does nothing while the ai kicks my a**. Scoping in and targeting an enemy's part just above cover misses like every single time? Or moving out of heavy melee range and still taking the full brunt of the damage? [More of glitches than cheating] Or walking onto areas that your are not suppose to? Not really an significant thing, just giving a heads up.


why the hell are you posting it here when its clearly labeled cheating related not glitches and bugs O_O

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Also, can we get a fix for people who just sit idle during games. getting really tired of people doing this, especially on silver and gold. need either a boot option during the game, or the game should see that someone isn't playing for....let's say 3 waves in a row...and kick them and replace them for inactivity. it's gotten to a point where we will just quit the game and start a new one.

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Horacio Zhao wrote...

I encountered something weird today. In one of my silver match, I couldn't pick up any ammo, and the host is using a Widow like assault rifle. He doesn't need to reload in any case!! I guess that's cheating, right?


Were all players also unkillable?  I had that twice - only the host had ammo, he never needed to reload, and we were all unkillable.

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WaffleCrab wrote...

Roshido wrote...

So, where should I be posting where some shots become blank shots maybe due to latency issues or host issues? I have had this happen to me many times. While using the stealth cloak I can sometimes shoot 1-3 sniper shots before dispelling the cloak. I also have had times where cloak disappears and my gun is still stealth. Random errors in the programming/coding? Or heavy melee with a Cerberus trooper and my melee does nothing while the ai kicks my a**. Scoping in and targeting an enemy's part just above cover misses like every single time? Or moving out of heavy melee range and still taking the full brunt of the damage? [More of glitches than cheating] Or walking onto areas that your are not suppose to? Not really an significant thing, just giving a heads up.


why the hell are you posting it here when its clearly labeled cheating related not glitches and bugs O_O

You were really having a rough night last night.  Feeling better?

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Roshido wrote...

So, where should I be posting where some shots become blank shots maybe due to latency issues or host issues? I have had this happen to me many times. While using the stealth cloak I can sometimes shoot 1-3 sniper shots before dispelling the cloak. I also have had times where cloak disappears and my gun is still stealth. Random errors in the programming/coding? Or heavy melee with a Cerberus trooper and my melee does nothing while the ai kicks my a**. Scoping in and targeting an enemy's part just above cover misses like every single time? Or moving out of heavy melee range and still taking the full brunt of the damage? [More of glitches than cheating] Or walking onto areas that your are not suppose to? Not really an significant thing, just giving a heads up.


I've had problems with heavy melee, but nothing really with any of my guns except the M37-Falcon. Sometimes I shoot but nothing comes out, but it makes the sound and the ammo goes down. It's a problem on Gold.

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BigTuna82 wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

Roshido wrote...

So, where should I be posting where some shots become blank shots maybe due to latency issues or host issues? I have had this happen to me many times. While using the stealth cloak I can sometimes shoot 1-3 sniper shots before dispelling the cloak. I also have had times where cloak disappears and my gun is still stealth. Random errors in the programming/coding? Or heavy melee with a Cerberus trooper and my melee does nothing while the ai kicks my a**. Scoping in and targeting an enemy's part just above cover misses like every single time? Or moving out of heavy melee range and still taking the full brunt of the damage? [More of glitches than cheating] Or walking onto areas that your are not suppose to? Not really an significant thing, just giving a heads up.


why the hell are you posting it here when its clearly labeled cheating related not glitches and bugs O_O

You were really having a rough night last night.  Feeling better?


are you trying to be funny? i mean he already said himself that he noticed its cheatin not glitch/bug related thread xD which kinda defeats the purpose of posting it here ☼_☼

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WaffleCrab wrote...

BigTuna82 wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

Roshido wrote...

So, where should I be posting where some shots become blank shots maybe due to latency issues or host issues? I have had this happen to me many times. While using the stealth cloak I can sometimes shoot 1-3 sniper shots before dispelling the cloak. I also have had times where cloak disappears and my gun is still stealth. Random errors in the programming/coding? Or heavy melee with a Cerberus trooper and my melee does nothing while the ai kicks my a**. Scoping in and targeting an enemy's part just above cover misses like every single time? Or moving out of heavy melee range and still taking the full brunt of the damage? [More of glitches than cheating] Or walking onto areas that your are not suppose to? Not really an significant thing, just giving a heads up.


why the hell are you posting it here when its clearly labeled cheating related not glitches and bugs O_O

You were really having a rough night last night.  Feeling better?


are you trying to be funny? i mean he already said himself that he noticed its cheatin not glitch/bug related thread xD which kinda defeats the purpose of posting it here ☼_☼

I'll expand, you take every opportunity to attack every poster.  So stop it.

Modifié par BigTuna82, 09 avril 2012 - 02:52 .


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diggisaur wrote...

Are these hacks mostly on the PC side? Or are then on XBL and PSN? I haven't seen anyone hacking personally and I am on XBL.


All of it will be client side. I don't know how open to modification client side files are on the xbox and playstation versions of the game but on PC you can literally use single player trainers and even coalesced.ini edits carry over into the multiplayer. If you have ever tried coalesced.ini editing then you will know that you can make changes to the game which are nuts in the context of multiplayer.

Essentially, this game is as easy to cheat in as Diablo I. Diablo I not Diablo II which was and still is infamous for cheating, but at least that had closed battle.net.

Its hard to fathom how any game with a multiplayer component could be designed in 2012 that trusts the client so absolutely. I haven't seen anything so vulnerable to explotation since the pre punkbuster days (so we are talking before 2000).

Modifié par Besetment, 09 avril 2012 - 03:09 .


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Besetment wrote...

diggisaur wrote...

Are these hacks mostly on the PC side? Or are then on XBL and PSN? I haven't seen anyone hacking personally and I am on XBL.


All of it will be client side. I don't know how open to modification client side files are on the xbox and playstation versions of the game but on PC you can literally use single player trainers and even coalesced.ini edits carry over into the multiplayer. If you have ever tried coalesced.ini editing then you will know that you can make changes to the game which are nuts in the context of multiplayer.

Essentially, this game is as easy to cheat in as Diablo I. Diablo I not Diablo II which was and still is infamous for cheating, but at least that had closed battle.net.

Its hard to fathom how any game with a multiplayer component could be designed in 2012 that trusts the client so absolutely. I haven't seen anything so vulnerable to explotation since the pre punkbuster days (so we are talking before 2000).

:bandit: The game trusts the client in all the wrong places.
The netcode could do with a whole lot more client trusting - you don't have to be fair to an AI, lag wise, after all. (goddamned banshees pulling me in from across the room fghfdhhrehg)

Well, that's why I play consoles. Dedicated service infrastructures and all that jazz.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 09 avril 2012 - 07:26 .


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N7Kopper wrote...

Besetment wrote...

diggisaur wrote...

Are these hacks mostly on the PC side? Or are then on XBL and PSN? I haven't seen anyone hacking personally and I am on XBL.


All of it will be client side. I don't know how open to modification client side files are on the xbox and playstation versions of the game but on PC you can literally use single player trainers and even coalesced.ini edits carry over into the multiplayer. If you have ever tried coalesced.ini editing then you will know that you can make changes to the game which are nuts in the context of multiplayer.

Essentially, this game is as easy to cheat in as Diablo I. Diablo I not Diablo II which was and still is infamous for cheating, but at least that had closed battle.net.

Its hard to fathom how any game with a multiplayer component could be designed in 2012 that trusts the client so absolutely. I haven't seen anything so vulnerable to explotation since the pre punkbuster days (so we are talking before 2000).

:bandit: The game trusts the client in all the wrong places.
The netcode could do with a whole lot more client trusting - you don't have to be fair to an AI, lag wise, after all. (goddamned banshees pulling me in from across the room fghfdhhrehg)

Well, that's why I play consoles. Dedicated service infrastructures and all that jazz.

I got lags exactly where server distrusts the client, i.e. when reviving or in the store.
Multiplayer is ea server-centric, unlike cs16, css, and even tf2.

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BigTuna82 wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

BigTuna82 wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

Roshido wrote...

So, where should I be posting where some shots become blank shots maybe due to latency issues or host issues? I have had this happen to me many times. While using the stealth cloak I can sometimes shoot 1-3 sniper shots before dispelling the cloak. I also have had times where cloak disappears and my gun is still stealth. Random errors in the programming/coding? Or heavy melee with a Cerberus trooper and my melee does nothing while the ai kicks my a**. Scoping in and targeting an enemy's part just above cover misses like every single time? Or moving out of heavy melee range and still taking the full brunt of the damage? [More of glitches than cheating] Or walking onto areas that your are not suppose to? Not really an significant thing, just giving a heads up.


why the hell are you posting it here when its clearly labeled cheating related not glitches and bugs O_O

You were really having a rough night last night.  Feeling better?


are you trying to be funny? i mean he already said himself that he noticed its cheatin not glitch/bug related thread xD which kinda defeats the purpose of posting it here ☼_☼

I'll expand, you take every opportunity to attack every poster.  So stop it.


mp really, are you trying to be funny? the first post was out of confusion so w/e. if you dont get the shock/confusion from the "O_O" eyes gues you cant get a hint :D

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Erm, does spamming every AI with shots mere seconds before the extraction count as cheating? If it does, then I totally don't do that, uh uh, no sir.

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I refuse to look at the rankings anymore because I'm pretty sure half of those in the 3k+ range cheated to get there. But alas, nothing will be done to them.