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For the last few posters: When you already have all gold weapons at X and the DLC comes out, and you made sure to save about 3 million, it's easy to get all the new weapons. In 3/4 hours, with a good group, you can make about 600,000 doing gold runs. A long weekend can net you a few million easily.

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I just sent an email to the address in the first post regarding strange ammunition counts (999!) in a lobby I just exited. Is there anything else I should do?

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Only problem I have is leechers. If only the game would boot players that have been idle for a prolonged period of time....not like it hurts the team if you lose a inactive player anyways.


Yeah that happened on a recent game on 360.  At the very beginning of the game one guy ran over and took cover behind a crate and would spradically fire his weapon into the floor regardless of if enemies were near or not, it just seemed random and never responded to revive anyone let alone kill any enemies that were next to him.  I called him out on mic and when everyone else noticed a few minutes later he finally joined the fight.

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Personally, I think a lot of this credit cheating is driven by players who are wanting more cash and less experience.

I think a solution that a lot of people would like is to allow some sort of exchange of experience for credits. Maybe something like, once you get to level 20 (any experience) x .10 = gold bonus.

The problem right now is once you've leveled up the main drive goes into money, but the money payout is pretty minimal. There needs to be challenging ways to increase the payout per hour.

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Smirnoffm wrote...

For the last few posters: When you already have all gold weapons at X and the DLC comes out, and you made sure to save about 3 million, it's easy to get all the new weapons. In 3/4 hours, with a good group, you can make about 600,000 doing gold runs. A long weekend can net you a few million easily.


This.

I had everything from the DLC maxed out 45 minutes after release. I just saved up 5 million from the previous week.

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I don't know if you'd consider it "cheating", but it's incredibly irritating when a person either AFK's the whole match (looking at you, Koriolanus) or quits the first round so that the rest of a group is forced to 3-man a Silver or Gold match.

Solutions:

1. Matchmaking system accounts for open slots in groups and adds players midway through the match (with a "This match is on wave x of 11, would you still like to join?" message).
2. Kick players who are AFK for more than a minute or two.

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Diablerist666 wrote...

Smirnoffm wrote...

For the last few posters: When you already have all gold weapons at X and the DLC comes out, and you made sure to save about 3 million, it's easy to get all the new weapons. In 3/4 hours, with a good group, you can make about 600,000 doing gold runs. A long weekend can net you a few million easily.


This.

I had everything from the DLC maxed out 45 minutes after release. I just saved up 5 million from the previous week.

Or people could just be spending bunch of actual cash to buy them.

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GT of the cheater: XxSquirre1xX he was found doing an unlimited credits in doing a gold level glitch by going in to bronze reaching wave 10 and by the time you get the credits everyone dying. while in the menu he explained that he changed the difficultly to gold (more credits in final wave) the "leader" then quits immediately so the game restarts in wave 10 (the objective is the same as the original bronze) you just continue the same process until you get bored

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AJanitor wrote...

Personally, I think a lot of this credit cheating is driven by players who are wanting more cash and less experience.

I think a solution that a lot of people would like is to allow some sort of exchange of experience for credits. Maybe something like, once you get to level 20 (any experience) x .10 = gold bonus.

The problem right now is once you've leveled up the main drive goes into money, but the money payout is pretty minimal. There needs to be challenging ways to increase the payout per hour.


EA would never allow this, even though it is a good idea.  It would cut into profit from people using real money to buy packs.  It really sucks for all of us who play honestly and don't want to spend real money on packs.

Modifié par ClockworkSpectre, 14 avril 2012 - 03:36 .


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cpittman wrote...

I don't know if you'd consider it "cheating", but it's incredibly irritating when a person either AFK's the whole match (looking at you, Koriolanus) or quits the first round so that the rest of a group is forced to 3-man a Silver or Gold match.

Solutions:

1. Matchmaking system accounts for open slots in groups and adds players midway through the match (with a "This match is on wave x of 11, would you still like to join?" message).
2. Kick players who are AFK for more than a minute or two.


If someone leaves during a match, the rest aren't forced to go it alone. Many, myself included, have joined matches already in progress.

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Same here I have popped into a match in progres.. I get crap credits but still Its good to help out folks who some loser bailed on

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Rashala wrote...

Same here I have popped into a match in progres.. I get crap credits but still Its good to help out folks who some loser bailed on


That's a little harsh. I personally have had my crappy internet connection kick me from a match. Pissed me off when it was during the Extraction wave of a Silver match. Tis why I'm getting it upgraded soon.

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Let us just post a picture of the cheater's character on the forum. 

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I don't know about the cheating aspect, it's the kill stealing masters that always suck the fun out of co-op multiplay for me. Those guys are always over your shoulder waiting for your freeze or stasis.

You can **** about builds or weapons but if you don't use what works the fastest you get crap for a match. I mean the way the builds are designed you really can't use all those cool weapons without sacrificing power usage. No wonder most run around with a pistol or lightest weapon.

Be cool to see weapon loadout benches on the map.

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The only cheating one on a console can do it is take advantage of the glitches that werent fixed

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Someone still needs to explain to me what the big deal with cheating is. I don't see how a MP that focus' on teamwork againt AI can cause a big stir about cheating. I play XBOX MP. I know you have those that are so competitive that they need to be the #1 point in everymatch. But what is the big deal everyone recieve the same Creds and Skillpoints at the end of the match. I had people "steal" a kill as I stripped the sheild off only so they can snipe them with Widow, but that is what teamwork is.

And becuase of the randomness of getting the weapons you want for those that some have hacked the system to give the huge credits so the can get the weapons and load outs they want what the big deal. You would still get you XP and creds for finishing the match not like they can steal it from you anyway. In fact this it the only kind of real cheating I can see in the game and I haven't seen it at all or heard anyone complain that it has occurred.

I think Bioware has made an excellent MP addition, but not perfect becuase of the randomness to unlock items (my only complaint), hopefully the can keep improving their MP development.

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This credit glitch is ruining a lot of games. It just happened to me and I'm so angry that I can't stand it. I joined a game and after the match, 15 million crediits. It took all the fun out of multi-player for me. I reported it and promptly stopped playing. If people are doing this to unlock things when I've worked hard to unlock what I have then it's definitely not fair and should be stopped somehow. It's not my fault that I joined a game with a cheater and now I can't play or spend credits for fear of being banned for someone else's stupidity. Very angry gamer here.

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what system can you get 15million credts on lol

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SoulDire wrote...

This credit glitch is ruining a lot of games. It just happened to me and I'm so angry that I can't stand it. I joined a game and after the match, 15 million crediits. It took all the fun out of multi-player for me. I reported it and promptly stopped playing. If people are doing this to unlock things when I've worked hard to unlock what I have then it's definitely not fair and should be stopped somehow. It's not my fault that I joined a game with a cheater and now I can't play or spend credits for fear of being banned for someone else's stupidity. Very angry gamer here.


I have probably just spent 1 million credits and still haven't unlock the salarian infiltrator (my favorite class from the beta).  I just finally last night unlocked the geth pulse rifle.  I have spent hours trying to get these items and with no luck.  Luck being the key word.  So yeah I would love to get 15mil in creds to increase my chances of unlocking them.

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Some things to note:

Geth players can see enemies through walls and, with the right gear, shoot through walls. This is not cheating.

There are occasionally some odd desynchronization issues that occur that can cause people to flicker around the map and be very hard for the enemy to kill. Sometimes they end up under the map and fairly worthless. Sometimes they flicker around rapidly above ground, possibly doing death. Neither of these is purposeful cheating, but rather a bug. It seems to happen most often to vanguards, but I've seen it happen with other classes as well.

Modifié par KTheAlchemist, 14 avril 2012 - 10:36 .


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SoulDire wrote...

This credit glitch is ruining a lot of games. It just happened to me and I'm so angry that I can't stand it. I joined a game and after the match, 15 million crediits. It took all the fun out of multi-player for me. I reported it and promptly stopped playing. If people are doing this to unlock things when I've worked hard to unlock what I have then it's definitely not fair and should be stopped somehow. It's not my fault that I joined a game with a cheater and now I can't play or spend credits for fear of being banned for someone else's stupidity. Very angry gamer here.

 


why would you be banned? its a known error, obviously not your fault. if you have that feedback thing on they should be able to tell that you changed nothing, if they bother to look that is

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I'm confused here.. if a known exploit in the game that BioWare hasn't fixed is being exploited by gamers to get a potentially unlimited amount of credits is considered "cheating" then I believe that buying packs with real money is also considered "cheating" It's the same principle. Except in the later example, EA gets money.. which is what they are so mad about. If people want to exploit a bug, let them as long as it doesn't interfere with other players who don't want to exploit it. I personally never have exploited this bug and will not because I love the MP, but buying packs and exploiting a credit glitch is essentially the same thing.

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MentalKase wrote...

SoulDire wrote...

This credit glitch is ruining a lot of games. It just happened to me and I'm so angry that I can't stand it. I joined a game and after the match, 15 million crediits. It took all the fun out of multi-player for me. I reported it and promptly stopped playing. If people are doing this to unlock things when I've worked hard to unlock what I have then it's definitely not fair and should be stopped somehow. It's not my fault that I joined a game with a cheater and now I can't play or spend credits for fear of being banned for someone else's stupidity. Very angry gamer here.


I have probably just spent 1 million credits and still haven't unlock the salarian infiltrator (my favorite class from the beta).  I just finally last night unlocked the geth pulse rifle.  I have spent hours trying to get these items and with no luck.  Luck being the key word.  So yeah I would love to get 15mil in creds to increase my chances of unlocking them.

 
I just finally got my Geth Pulse Rifle, literally five minutes ago. But I've had the Salarian infiltrator for a while now. I've unlocked all characters except the new ones, except Geth Infiltrator, and they've been unlocked for a few weeks now. You must be very unlucky. Heck, I'm still getting class trainin for classes I don't even use. >.>

KTheAlchemist wrote...

Some things to note:

Geth players can see enemies through walls and, with the right gear, shoot through walls. This is not cheating.

There are occasionally some odd desynchronization issues that occur that can cause people to flicker around the map and be very hard for the enemy to kill. Sometimes they end up under the map and fairly worthless. Sometimes they flicker around rapidly above ground, possibly doing death. Neither of these is purposeful cheating, but rather a bug. It seems to happen most often to vanguards, but I've seen it happen with other classes as well.


If I see anyone shoot through a wall, I know they're cheating. It's one thing to shoot through thin barricades, but walls? No.

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MentalKase wrote...

Someone still needs to explain to me what the big deal with cheating is.

Basics: 
The unfairness to those who do legitly play it and legitly try to get
things ending up in games with people who got things unfairly.  More so,
as hard as it may be to believe, some people play this game for the
challenge.  When you get stuck with someone who can, for example, one
shot kill EVERYTHING and rack up all the points while taking out all the
skill and challenge, well it really does take away the fun of the game.

As far as everyone getting the exact same experience and credits?  Not true.  Well, maybe the credits bit is and I admit I don't know if the N7 rank up experience is or not.  I do know though that character experience is not granted out equally, and that does depend on how you perform in the match.

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Lord Irvine wrote...

 If I see anyone shoot through a wall, I know they're cheating. It's one thing to shoot through thin barricades, but walls? No.

Some walls can be shot through, you know.  Depending on the gun and/or setup, but they can.  Corners of walls too, to a certain extent.