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 If I see anyone shoot through a wall, I know they're cheating. It's one thing to shoot through thin barricades, but walls? No.

Some walls can be shot through, you know.  Depending on the gun and/or setup, but they can.  Corners of walls too, to a certain extent.


Like what?

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Lord Irvine wrote...

Adverb wrote...

Lord Irvine wrote...

 If I see anyone shoot through a wall, I know they're cheating. It's one thing to shoot through thin barricades, but walls? No.

Some walls can be shot through, you know.  Depending on the gun and/or setup, but they can.  Corners of walls too, to a certain extent.


Like what?


if im using the javelin with level five piercing mod i can shoot through most walls:pinched:

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Gino 1234 wrote...

Lord Irvine wrote...

Adverb wrote...

Lord Irvine wrote...

 If I see anyone shoot through a wall, I know they're cheating. It's one thing to shoot through thin barricades, but walls? No.

Some walls can be shot through, you know.  Depending on the gun and/or setup, but they can.  Corners of walls too, to a certain extent.


Like what?


if im using the javelin with level five piercing mod i can shoot through most walls:pinched:


I only have the level five ammo capacity and extended barrels for my Sniper Rifles. Nearly 300 N7 rating, hours of gameplay, and I still only have those two add ons, and they're maxed. <_<

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I still waiting to see X-Sem3 banned, this one made like 2000 rank in a day, going 6 in world rank and first in italian rank, waht the hell bioware wait for? is IMPOSSIBLE make 2000 rank in less of a day, and i want see this cheater out of game NOW not next year.

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I hope thwey dont had a chat box it only make flamewars.

Goal is to win the game to an poster in here.

Cheating god how LOL is V A
cheating palyers doing nothing is not cheating. I told players in one game other day. I be away from game for 1 wave due to phone call. I told them when I was back. If they add a kick option would that of been fair if I told them. They then played 6 more games with me. I said sorry to them after game. Lives dont stop while you play do they. If I could of given them some of my credits each, I would of done am fair like that. PLEASE dont add a chat box... re adding friends its easy just type name in search box in Origin or write name done add later LOL. Are we all that lazy now?

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I guess that this gamer who used to cheat is back. Bioware removed him from Mass Effect 3 multiplayer last month.


Please read this topic


n7 rating of 5070, is it even possible?


http://social.biowar...ndex/10873562/2


Highest N7 rating Singapore and global
Player name : CrimsonMarch

Now he has N7 rank almost 10000

Modifié par poloplo, 15 avril 2012 - 04:25 .


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Only been in two games with cheaters.
the last one was so Fuuuu... that i just sat back, lit a smoke and watched one guy 1 shot KO his way to a gold completed
He was at wave 9 in 9 minutes. At that point i trusted my good old ALT + F4 :)

@ that speed i can see why these horrid animals can reach that rank.
I am at a proud and pure 150.

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NDorphin_PWNZ ... Had a fully automatic claymore and infinite ammo. It would have been entertaining to watch him just mow through Atlases like they were assault troopers, if it wasn't so distasteful.

(And for some reason playing on Bronze despite being level 20. Really? If someone is going to cheat you'd think they'd at least cheat on a difficulty that would give them rewards. But considering he had all X level rare weapons, I guess credits must not have mattered much to him)

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Highest N7 rating Singapore and global
Player name : CrimsonMarch

Now he has N7 rank almost 10000

Unless he dumped a metric crap ton of cash(stolen cc's perhaps) for packs, he had to have done something besides playing the game legitly. 

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DEADLINE2000 wrote...

I hope thwey dont had a chat box it only make flamewars.

Goal is to win the game to an poster in here.

Cheating god how LOL is V A
cheating palyers doing nothing is not cheating. I told players in one game other day. I be away from game for 1 wave due to phone call. I told them when I was back. If they add a kick option would that of been fair if I told them. They then played 6 more games with me. I said sorry to them after game. Lives dont stop while you play do they. If I could of given them some of my credits each, I would of done am fair like that. PLEASE dont add a chat box... re adding friends its easy just type name in search box in Origin or write name done add later LOL. Are we all that lazy now?

Players doing absolutely nothing in a match IS cheating.  You did absolutely nothing for a round, and you told the rest of your team that you had to go AFK for a moment.  When you are on wave 5 though and one person hasn't even moved at all though from the starting spot or even moved/fired at all, often they are just trying for free points/credits.  I know life happens, but so does camping in a game doing nothing.  Adding a text box I think would be good for not everyone uses mics, and someone who may have to go AFK a round or two can inform the rest of the team so (if it was added) the rest of the team hopefully would be smart/nice enough not to boot them.  As for flamewars, it can still happen with those who have mics.  So far, I have not seen/heard it myself.  Would be nice either way if there was a 'mute' feature though, just in case junk like that was happening.

In terms of adding, I think it would be good still to be able to see stats for the last few games.  I was in a couple games with a really good team once.  In the third game I was thinking 'yeah, I want to friend these guys!' but didn't write the names down as I was busy killing things and figured I would do that in the lobby after.  Then my game crashed and I had no way to check up their names (and what I did recall of one player's name brought up too many options).  Plus, being able to click/add as a friend at least in lobby would be so much easier than searching and othe programs can manage that.

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The only form of cheating I'm aware of is AFk'ing for xp and credits. Something that moniters activity would do. An auto afk kicker that kicks people that dont move for more then a few minutes, or something that boots if you're not earning a minimum amount of points every wave. That way it would force people to play for their rewards.

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If you did want to grab water or had to run to the bathroom, it would be nice if you could set yourself idle and have a bot take control at least for a small amount of time before an auto-kicker would take place. And yes, I am taking this idea from Left 4 Dead. Like Left 4 Dead, it would be nice that any experience/gold that would be granted while the bot is in control would not actually be gained by the player itself.

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poloplo wrote...

I guess that this gamer who used to cheat is back. Bioware removed him from Mass Effect 3 multiplayer last month.


Please read this topic


n7 rating of 5070, is it even possible?


http://social.biowar...ndex/10873562/2


Highest N7 rating Singapore and global
Player name : CrimsonMarch

Now he has N7 rank almost 10000


You know, I don't see what's the problem with a high n7 level. It's a coop game, right? I mean, if the high n7 level means high skill, what's the problem? You face less troubles on gold(dying on wave 10, etc.) That is assuming that the player doesn't use credit/weapon/damage mods or the like. 

Does it actually matter? I mean, I've noticed the previous top player wilhelm88ss jump levels like, almost a thousand a day. But hey, does anyone say anything? Nope(or rather, I have yet to see him get banned or something). It's like some anti-top hatred for the guy.

And think about it. Assuming these players didn't cheat, they probably would have all weapons at level X, along with any other weapon mod and character unlocks. Would they have an excessive high stockpile of credits(I'm talking about millions of credits)? Probably. What else can they possibly get? Character XP cards. Doesn't that make leveling easier as well? I mean, a gold character card gives you 100000xp? You might say it's not much, but that can level up the lower leveled/just promoted characters up to a reasonable level for gold difficulty. 

But apart from that... Assuming you need 4+ full gold games to level up your character to 20. And assuming you finish a gold game in 15 minutes(it's possible). You can gain 20-30 n7levels in an hour. And if it's possible that that player is sharing computers with multiple people, it's totally possible to play 24/7(I've seen those crazy players in other mmorpgs). That would mean gaining an n7 level of about say... 500-700+ a day?

That would mean that it is possible to get an n7 level of 9000+ in 2 weeks and less, without character xp packs. Oh and I've checked: CrimsonMarch has reached n7 level of above 10000. So let's say he's played about 2-3 weeks or so(isn't that acceptable? Some people have OCD or something similar, right?) Furthermore, what if he also uses bioware points?

Shouldn't players be more angry against credit hackers or damage hackers that spoil games? I mean, has any of you played with high n7 level players? Have they done anything that spoilt/ruined your game? I haven't, but I know how it feels to play a game, then suddenly *BAM*, 15 million credits after the game -.- I would very much rather play with a high n7 level(assuming he is skilled as well), and enjoy the game, rather than with someone who is 1-shoting everything else while you stand aimlessly around doing nothing.

Just saying.

Modifié par DayByNight, 16 avril 2012 - 12:56 .


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DayByNight wrote...

Shouldn't players be more angry against credit hackers or damage hackers that spoil games? I mean, has any of you played with high n7 level players? Have they done anything that spoilt/ruined your game? I haven't, but I know how it feels to play a game, then suddenly *BAM*, 15 million credits after the game -.- I would very much rather play with a high n7 level(assuming he is skilled as well), and enjoy the game, rather than with someone who is 1-shoting everything else while you stand aimlessly around doing nothing.

Just saying.


Who are these cheater? What are their names? When do they play? and do you know if they're looking for any friends? I absolutely HATE this goofy lottery system and letting someone else take the fall for me while letting me actually enjoy the game would be amazing.

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You know, I don't see what's the problem with a high n7 level. It's a coop game, right? I mean, if the high n7 level means high skill, what's the problem?

No, high N7 =/= high skill. It just equates to how much time/cash/character cards/promotes someone has done.

Does it actually matter? I mean, I've noticed the previous top player wilhelm88ss jump levels like, almost a thousand a day. But hey, does anyone say anything?

Honestly anyone over 3k is rather suspect and should be investigated. And if you are seeing him jump 1k a day then maybe toss in a report. 

And think about it. Assuming these players didn't cheat, they probably would have all weapons at level X, along with any other weapon mod and character unlocks. Would they have an excessive high stockpile of credits(I'm talking about millions of credits)? Probably. What else can they possibly get? Character XP cards. *snip*

But apart from that... Assuming you need 4+ full gold games to level up your character to 20. And assuming you finish a gold game in 15 minutes(it's possible). You can gain 20-30 n7levels in an hour. And if it's possible that that player is sharing computers with multiple people, it's totally possible to play 24/7(I've seen those crazy players in other mmorpgs). That would mean gaining an n7 level of about say... 500-700+ a day?

To much asuming to even bother giving the benifit of the doubt for. 

Shouldn't players be more angry against credit hackers or damage hackers that spoil games? I mean, has any of you played with high n7 level players? Have they done anything that spoilt/ruined your game?

That's the thing, how do we know they didn't hack/exploit/use illegal funds to get that ranking?

Just saying.

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morph4037 wrote...

Honestly anyone over 3k is rather suspect and should be investigated. And if you are seeing him jump 1k a day then maybe toss in a report. 

And think about it. Assuming these players didn't cheat, they probably would have all weapons at level X, along with any other weapon mod and character unlocks. Would they have an excessive high stockpile of credits(I'm talking about millions of credits)? Probably. What else can they possibly get? Character XP cards. *snip*

But apart from that... Assuming you need 4+ full gold games to level up your character to 20. And assuming you finish a gold game in 15 minutes(it's possible). You can gain 20-30 n7levels in an hour. And if it's possible that that player is sharing computers with multiple people, it's totally possible to play 24/7(I've seen those crazy players in other mmorpgs). That would mean gaining an n7 level of about say... 500-700+ a day?

To much asuming to even bother giving the benifit of the doubt for. 

Shouldn't players be more angry against credit hackers or damage hackers that spoil games? I mean, has any of you played with high n7 level players? Have they done anything that spoilt/ruined your game?

That's the thing, how do we know they didn't hack/exploit/use illegal funds to get that ranking?

Just saying.



Just because you consider it as 'too much assuming' doesn't mean that it's not true. I don't think it's right to call someone a cheater without solid proof.

And I don't think that anyone above 3k points is a potential cheater. This game has been out for a month or so. That would just be 100 points a day. 200 a dayis totally plausible. I think hardcore gamers should at least hit 5k points, if they were good enough to always play on gold.

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Fox544 wrote...

DayByNight wrote...

Shouldn't players be more angry against credit hackers or damage hackers that spoil games? I mean, has any of you played with high n7 level players? Have they done anything that spoilt/ruined your game? I haven't, but I know how it feels to play a game, then suddenly *BAM*, 15 million credits after the game -.- I would very much rather play with a high n7 level(assuming he is skilled as well), and enjoy the game, rather than with someone who is 1-shoting everything else while you stand aimlessly around doing nothing.

Just saying.


Who are these cheater? What are their names? When do they play? and do you know if they're looking for any friends? I absolutely HATE this goofy lottery system and letting someone else take the fall for me while letting me actually enjoy the game would be amazing.


Well, I don't know. But I guess normally these sort of high n7 rank players prefer to play with friends via private games. But there's always the one hacker that plays a public game (Whyy??Makes no sense.) that you manage to join via quick-match. And credit hacks aren't normally discovered until the game ends, so...

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I know some of these N7 ratings that go through the roof are insane and cheating, but I personally know a guy that jumps n7 ratings like crazy (like 400 a day) because he's autistic and cant adapt to doing anything else but play games and grind the **** out of chars. So yeah, there are cheaters out there, but you can't base it off of N7 scores alone.

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21B wrote...

I know some of these N7 ratings that go through the roof are insane and cheating, but I personally know a guy that jumps n7 ratings like crazy (like 400 a day) because he's autistic and cant adapt to doing anything else but play games and grind the **** out of chars. So yeah, there are cheaters out there, but you can't base it off of N7 scores alone.


Exactly my point! People can get extremely high n7 levels, especially if they share accounts. Glad someone agrees with me.

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Just because you consider it as 'too much assuming' doesn't mean that it's not true. I don't think it's right to call someone a cheater without solid proof.

And there's no proof saying that he/they did it 100% legitly. I just said it was suspect, not "OMG watdafu** CHEATER". At the very least they should investigate it and if its kosher, then props to him/his crew for the high nerd rating.

And I don't think that anyone above 3k points is a potential cheater. This game has been out for a month or so. That would just be 100 points a day. 200 a dayis totally plausible. I think hardcore gamers should at least hit 5k points, if they were good enough to always play on gold.

Fair enough, but it is still suspect on those over the 5k mark in the span of a month. 

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Exactly my point! People can get extremely high n7 levels, especially if they share accounts. Glad someone agrees with me.

  And that right there is cheating. I'm pretty sure somewhere in the ToS theres a clause to prevent account sharing. :P

Modifié par morph4037, 16 avril 2012 - 09:52 .


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if someone ranking up in 2 hours from 3000 to 5000 this one cheating, say what you want but is impossible to rank up so fast, if ya want to do gold dont use a level 1 (unless ya want do die fast) but at least a lvl 15 so the theory of "play gold and level up like crazy, in 15 minuts" isnt working, i play at least 8 hours at day, all day, silver and gold whit some bronze ween my char is gone back to lvl 1 and im at rank 1400, i see people in scoreboard raising his rank in half hour from 1500 to 2000, 500 rank up in 30 minuts? X-Sem3 raising from 1500 to 5100 in less of 4 days, and not raising like "1500-1550-1600.....and so" but 1500-2000-2300-2700.....so is cheating, no other options.

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morph4037 wrote...

DayByNight wrote...
Just because you consider it as 'too much assuming' doesn't mean that it's not true. I don't think it's right to call someone a cheater without solid proof.

And there's no proof saying that he/they did it 100% legitly. I just said it was suspect, not "OMG watdafu** CHEATER". At the very least they should investigate it and if its kosher, then props to him/his crew for the high nerd rating.

 

Okay, fair point there. 

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DayByNight wrote... 
Exactly my point! People can get extremely high n7 levels, especially if they share accounts. Glad someone agrees with me.

  And that right there is cheating. I'm pretty sure somewhere in the ToS theres a clause to prevent account sharing. :P


Seriously, do you really find account sharing cheating? What's the big deal with that? 0.o

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n355uno wrote...

if someone ranking up in 2 hours from 3000 to 5000 this one cheating, say what you want but is impossible to rank up so fast, if ya want to do gold dont use a level 1 (unless ya want do die fast) but at least a lvl 15 so the theory of "play gold and level up like crazy, in 15 minuts" isnt working, i play at least 8 hours at day, all day, silver and gold whit some bronze ween my char is gone back to lvl 1 and im at rank 1400, i see people in scoreboard raising his rank in half hour from 1500 to 2000, 500 rank up in 30 minuts? X-Sem3 raising from 1500 to 5100 in less of 4 days, and not raising like "1500-1550-1600.....and so" but 1500-2000-2300-2700.....so is cheating, no other options.


True... Unless he's spamming a load of MS points...
But then again I've heard from others that he uses a revenant/claymore shotgun hybrid, so... >.>

(A claymore that shoots as fast as a revenant)

Modifié par DayByNight, 16 avril 2012 - 11:32 .


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Seriously, do you really find account sharing cheating? What's the big deal with that? 0.o

It's kind of a fine line. Some instances like letting a buddy try something out I can see being ok-ish.

(Just to using the scenario that it is a group of people) However, having a few/several people run your game nonstop makes the whole point of a ranking system moot. Honestly, what's the point of having a ranking system if you and your friends can just chesse your way to the top?

*It's really late so sorry if I kind of ramble on.

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morph4037 wrote...


Seriously, do you really find account sharing cheating? What's the big deal with that? 0.o

It's kind of a fine line. Some instances like letting a buddy try something out I can see being ok-ish.

(Just to using the scenario that it is a group of people) However, having a few/several people run your game nonstop makes the whole point of a ranking system moot. Honestly, what's the point of having a ranking system if you and your friends can just chesse your way to the top?

*It's really late so sorry if I kind of ramble on.


Well, okay. I don't see as that much a problem(ranking level's nothing, just 'bragging rights', right?) But I respect your view. I suppose it works from different viewpoints, then.

Modifié par DayByNight, 16 avril 2012 - 12:08 .