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[AlexFili]

Cheating does affect all players, regardless of motives or reasons.

Take for example the rare character unlocks. Some players play for a fair amount of time to unlock them. For another user to cheat to get them is unfair, because the other player feels they are at a disadvantage because of someone else's actions. In extreme cases, this can cause non-cheaters to become so annoyed with it that they quit the game, temporarily or permanently.

What people will also find is that when they cheat to get something, there is no sense of delayed gratification, and any pleasure gained from cheating will wear away pretty fast. Okay, for example, you start a Call of Duty game with a fully prestiged character, all gold guns, all medals and challenges complete. Now, how long is that player going to play the game compared to someone who did not cheat? The non-cheater, in my opinion, would play much, much more, since they have things to aim for and achieve. The less people playing on a server, the harder it is to find matches, this eventually leads to a decline in player activity which spells a downward spiral and in worst cases, a shutdown of the multiplayer segment of a game.

Now, I understand that not all cheaters are the same and perhaps my former paragraph is a bit pessimistic. But I have optimism that ME3's multiplayer mode will be very fun and will be popular for many years to come. Keelah Se'lai!

[Sand0]

Please Bioware make an official statement about tweaking the coalesced.bin for changing the fov is a bannable offence or not.
I feel physically uncomfortable playing the game out of the box and I know the fov will never be patched. I'm fine with that and most people who get dizzy about it already find a solution. But tell us if we risk to get banned or not.

Modifié par Sand0, 14 mars 2012 - 10:43 .

[Kronner]

Put Coal.bin on your server.

Problem solved.

Local copy that is shared among MP and SP is obviously wrong way to go. It shows that BioWare has never made proper MP before. Off topic: which is why you guys are not very good at balancing weapons and powers, by the way.

[Kastrenzo]

So what happens when someone has a score that's 20-30 thousand above the next person, someone gets mad and accuses them of cheating?

I've had on multiple occasions had people accuse me of cheating just because I was killing enemies much faster than them. These were people who were low levelled and apparentley new to MP.

So yes, I'd be a little worried about getting banned because of false accusations.

[Kastrenzo]

PurebredCorn wrote...

So is this only happening on the PC version? I mean how can people hack the console versions?

Of course they can, but according to many business models "PC players are all pirates, cheaters and hackers"

[ThomasakaDes_]

Kastrenzo wrote...

PurebredCorn wrote...

So is this only happening on the PC version? I mean how can people hack the console versions?

Of course they can, but according to many business models "PC players are all pirates, cheaters and hackers"

Alot of the PC gamers are pirates, it`s very easy to pirate games and other stuff on PC, it`s not that easy to do that on consoles(unless you have friends with games that was bought on the stores. I have the CE of ME3, so I haven`t gotten ME3 through a friend ).

And to pirates: Don`t even try and call yourself a hardcore gamer, hardcore gamers buy their games.

[Kastrenzo]

ThomasakaDes_ wrote...

Kastrenzo wrote...

PurebredCorn wrote...

So is this only happening on the PC version? I mean how can people hack the console versions?

Of course they can, but according to many business models "PC players are all pirates, cheaters and hackers"

Alot of the PC gamers are pirates, it`s very easy to pirate games and other stuff on PC, it`s not that easy to do that on consoles(unless you have friends with games that was bought on the stores. I have the CE of ME3, so I haven`t gotten ME3 through a friend ).

And to pirates: Don`t even try and call yourself a hardcore gamer, hardcore gamers buy their games.

That's still an unfair assumption to make. that's like saying A lot of PC gamers are Pirates,

If you change the wording, you can still say the same thing without the offense

A lot of Pirates operate on PC, Do you see how that is less offensive toward them?

I'm just saying this because I've been a dedicated PC gamer all my life, and as far as I'm concerned there are still equally as many pirates and hackers on consoles, it's just harder for them because they have to crack open their shackled little hardware boxes. and they're stopped by Warranties and such, PC owners aren't.

[ThomasakaDes_]

Anyways.
EA & Bioware, change the way you take care of hacking, don`t ban everyone that is in a hacked lobby, only punish those who actually hacked it. Most of the time, it`s the host.
With the money EA has, it should be very possible for you to make a better security system.

[KainD]

ThomasakaDes_ wrote...

Alot of the PC gamers are pirates, it`s very easy to pirate games and other stuff on PC, it`s not that easy to do that on consoles (unless you have friends with games that was bought on the stores.)

Dude, that's how ALL the pirating works. 

A guy buys a game and the DLC officially and then generously shares it with other people. That's why you can't battle pirates, because first-hand "pirates", or should I say captains buy their games officialy. 

[Baraan]

I don´t know if it´s the right place but i´d really like to have an answer. I played a normal MP game on bronze, i had 5k credits when the game started and after the game i had 1 million credits. I have no idea where that money comes from, i don´t want it and i don´t want to get banned or something so what should i do ? I wrote an email to the cheating mail-adress but no reaction from there eiter.
I´d really like to continue playing but i don´t know if i should before this is resolved.

[Zero Hakaru]

ThomasakaDes_ wrote...

Anyways.
EA & Bioware, change the way you take care of hacking, don`t ban everyone that is in a hacked lobby, only punish those who actually hacked it. Most of the time, it`s the host.
With the money EA has, it should be very possible for you to make a better security system.

This.

I always have that sense of dread of getting into a hacked lobby. Tried setting up my own to avoid this, but no one seems to want to play with me. T_T

[KainD]

Zero Hakaru wrote...

I always have that sense of dread of getting into a hacked lobby. Tried setting up my own to avoid this, but no one seems to want to play with me. T_T

Really? You can find friends to play with on these forums very easily. 

[ThomasakaDes_]

Well, if someone does get banned and still wants to play single player, it is possible to if you disconnect your system from the net.
At least on PS3 and Xbox, probably on PC too.

[dedhd]

What cheaters? I haven't had any problems on my PC or Xbox versions, Demo or Full.
I hope nobody is having any serious problems with this, cheating ruins perfectly good games >

[Vodos78]

Are the MP characters and weapon unlocks also saved on your PC rather than a server?

Last night I was in a game with a guy with a Black Widow X. He was N7 rank 53. He must have done something differnt than cheating millions of credits to buy specter boxes, because it must take 1000+ boxes to get an ultra-rare weapon to X and that means also hundreds of character cards. That would put his N7 rank way over 53.
Therefore I suspect that the characters and weapon unlocks are saved in some file on our PCs and he found a way to just give himself the best weapons.

Unfortunately the screenshot function didn't work and I had forgotten his name after the game, so I can't report him.

[ElementL09]

Please someone answer this question:

Why do you need to cheat in a 4-player CO-OPERATIVE mode?

Theres barely any competition with other players to begin with. If you really want to buy packs you can BUY packs. I don't see the point. I don't even see the problem, I don't see how its effecting me if another person gets more credits or a better score because they are exploiting the game.

Cheating/exploiting is wrong but I fail to see who it effects me, a person who plays multiplayer for fun (and because of its lame decay system). I don't even see this as a major problem compared to other issues.

[nilcox]

Look, there is cheating going on, take a look at the global n7 rankings for 1 example, some guys has over 3000 levels, if someone wanna do the math go ahead, game has been out a week there is 24 hours in a day and you can get around half a level per bronze match after level 15.

People cheating affects the leaderboard and thus all people who play for a good ranking.

Modifié par nilcox, 15 mars 2012 - 03:53 .

[UK Wildcat]

Thank you for monitoring and taking corrective action against cheaters. This is a good sign for the future too if other ME titles/expansions end up adding Competitive modes

[AgamenonAtreides]

Right now i played a gold match with one cheater, his name starts with "C" and end with "1", he got the phalanx with a lot of damage he killed in a row 2 geth primes, he was the only who can use the rocket launcher, he was the only who can revive team mates, and he got 9999 of ammo..

With this cheater i cannot played fairly because my mattock reloads every 2 shots, cant revive my mates and even cant use sabotage..

Here a few screenshots i made http://imageshack.us/f/835/chea2t.jpg/

Modifié par AgamenonAtreides, 15 mars 2012 - 04:41 .

[TruSkill]

If you want to hear about a case of cheating that actually is a detriment to other players, I can help you out.
Yesterday while playing a Gold match on Firebase White, one of the players glitched (or hacked or whatever) himself into the shuttle on the landing pad and went AFK for the rest of the game. For some reason, being outside of the playable area prevents you from getting kicked for leeching, so we had to play the entire match with effectively 3 players. However, at the end of the match the cheater still got all the credits and rewards for playing the match even though he didn't do anything.

Focus on banning glitchers and leechers since they actually ruin gameplay for the rest of us.

[Twisted Mind]

@agamenon
How can you see his ammo? I can't see my teammate's hp/shield and weapon/ammo, even when spectating.

@cheating
So far, people have only been reporting obvious cheaters that get insane amounts of credits and have ultra dmg and stuff. But my concern is, how will i know that i am with a cheater if he is not that gready. They can mod the game to have just a little more ammo, damage, shields, hp... to make the game easier. Same thing with xp and credits in the end. In the demo, i usualy had 55k for gold match, but people say that 80k is within reason. Basicly, i can play super easy gold match and get a lot of credits (let say 20k more than i should) and not even notice it.
I know that non cheater would not gain much credits this way because he is not gonna play with a cheater that many rounds. I also know that most players would notice difference in gameplay and rewards that is needed to be profitable for the cheater (no one would cheat for a 5k credits). But, having even 5k more per match will give some unfair advantage in longer period. Also, if it gets unnoticed, more and more people will do it.
The point is, i might play a lot of matches with different cheaters, over a few day and be a common factor in irregular matches. How am i protected from being banned for that.
It does sound far fetched, but players have a chance to cheat and they will cheat.

@leechers
Kick vote would be nice. Not just for leechers.
I just hope that scoring system will not change in a way that everyone gets what they earned. it may eliminate leechers, but it would ruin everything else.

Modifié par Twisted Mind, 15 mars 2012 - 05:41 .

[AgamenonAtreides]

Because the cheat of the ammo affect all players in the match.. that was my ammo, every time i shot my ammo in the current magazine went to -24..,,

BTW... u have a screenshot about the finall score.. and his lvl and the weapon he used.. can see clearly that he is cheating

Modifié par AgamenonAtreides, 15 mars 2012 - 05:45 .

[Kastrenzo]

ElementL09 wrote...

Please someone answer this question:

Why do you need to cheat in a 4-player CO-OPERATIVE mode?

Theres barely any competition with other players to begin with. If you really want to buy packs you can BUY packs. I don't see the point. I don't even see the problem, I don't see how its effecting me if another person gets more credits or a better score because they are exploiting the game.

Cheating/exploiting is wrong but I fail to see who it effects me, a person who plays multiplayer for fun (and because of its lame decay system). I don't even see this as a major problem compared to other issues.

Some people just want to stroke their egos and get on a leaderboard, that no one cares about anyway.

It's funny because most of the people who do it make it blatantly obvious that they cheated.

IE, One person goes from N7-1 to N7-5030 in one day. gets banned the next