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#1001
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I find it hard to tell what is a glitch and what is a freeloader and what is a bad plalyer! Played with a guy today who was N7 rating of 500 plus and final score of under 900 points.
Probably had to go for his afternoon nap.

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Fison wrote...

I find it hard to tell what is a glitch and what is a freeloader and what is a bad plalyer! Played with a guy today who was N7 rating of 500 plus and final score of under 900 points.
Probably had to go for his afternoon nap.


Indeed.  I find all the snitching some what autocratic, something I would think we'd like to avoid.  The obvious glitches are one thing, but the one's beyond our control, the network hiccups etc., maybe give the benifit of the doubt. :?:blush::huh:

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With what I've been seeing, it seems that so far they only ban PC players as of now. Which makes me think that they are catching people who mod the game, not necessarily those who abuse the credits glitch. Just my thoughts, not trying to down anything or anyone.

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Skorpijon wrote...

Where do game parameters come from? Local file? Cant bioware make a simple check of the local file before each game (1 file how long would it take)? In case the file was tampered, no credits, no xp and a big cheater sign at the end of the match?

Cause the more i read, the more i think ppl can simply change values in some files and do wonders.

Yes i know that check might obstruct you even more. But hey, got to start somewhere?

Well maybe a check only when you enter multiplayer and you get a warning beforhand you have an edited file somewhere?
Seem to remember some games had that....


But in the end, the honest players would have problems, while cheaters would still find a way to bypass this check. Why? Cause it has been like that from 1980's and it doesnt seem things are changing.

Its possible.  I know Rainbow Six and Rogue Spear way back in the day after time built in a system that would check game files during the countdown to launch an actual game.  It would give notice if a player was using modded skins, but not start up if there was anything modded to the actual gear or your hit points.

Probably the biggest thing though is Bioware/EA don't really know what they are doing with multiplayer.  Add in that  besides (at least I hope) trying to fix various things wrong with multiplayer, they also have teams working on the expanded endings that should be out this summer, and perhaps even more DLC stuff.  Adding something to scan game files is probably far on their back burner sadly.

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http://social.biowar...917428#11976033

I would have just quoted the post from Scylla Costa, but it was posted to a locked thread about a player-modded Platinum Difficulty. It's the kind of information that needs a mention in this thread.

#1006
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hchadw wrote...

Basically Bioware has bit off more than they can chew and the Singleplayer Story/Campaign is going to suffer for it.

Im a huge fan trust me..... and im mad... i have the right to be. I have bought every Bioware game made ........................ and i noticed quality starting to dip in areas cause they are trying to get into a market that have no business attempting if they are not ready.

You think the multiplayer in this is going to stack up against COD or BF3....... thats what people are interested it..... they will get bored of fighting bots and the multiplayer side of this will die

I promise you that...........................................

Nobody on BF3 or COD has to BUY! ammo..

#1007
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Onlyone getting CHEATED around here is ME! buy these Ridiculous pkgs only to get the same thing over, an over again, and the game keep ripping me off ammo an med pkgs, Lots of things that are wrong with this co-op, med gels, ammo pks, spec ops, get double dipped from my invatory, sometimes IF i hit the med gel too late I die an still LOSE a med gel. same thing with spec ops, getting spontaniouslly killed on the map from 100% armor to Instant death, I have finally shut my game off for good deleted it from the HD an wont be playing anymore until they fix some of these costly glitches..

#1008
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I have the same problem, geth infiltrator im cloaked yet i get shot down by a trooper as im passing, how the hell are you supposed to do stuff when it just does not work, I agree its a pain in the butt, as for the store, what can I say, today ive played for hours, yes i know it seems im whining, but out of 6 packs I got 6 male vanguards, 4 female sentinels, im already maxed out on them the same crap day in day out, had the same things yesterday and the day before. Im wondering if it's worth playing when your trying to unlock weapons or upgrade the weapons you have?

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Ban all the credit glitchers!

Also... can we release a pack with a GREATLY increased chance to get an N7 weapon.. like a 50% chance. I'd pay 250-500k for it no problem. Money is easy to get if you have a good team. There isn't anything 3 Adepts and an Infiltrator can't handle.

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 Why the game is cheatable?This is the real question.In every situation, is bettere to not exclude anything.For example, i have played with a player called .........cannot say.....2 play i think, why 2?cause i want to understand who is the "cheater", i canno t say  one name without know right?Whe play in 4 at same time.First i have say: damnation this server is broken! 999 bullet and semi-immortality?In the past I have lose my virtual credit in Mass Effect 3 during a transition, but , i have no bannedthe Bioware and Mass Effect 3 from my PC...
When i have buy Bioware credits to keep the ME2 DLC i loose 5EURO only for the transition, before my confirmation, and the server have loose the contact for a few second, resulkting in two transition...can tellmany other "not funny" episode...but at the end...i have all the ME2 DLC.
What i want to say?
I have to do this work (hunt) for Bioware cause Bioware have problem with the "hacker"?I don't know how much is my balance (credit) before of this hunting but honestly i can say:I have spent those credit.One Spectrum pack premium and one equipment.But i have think about what i have do after the reading of this Email, without trouble, why?I play my game! I cannot keep note of the balance during the play, and ...how much is my balance before?I don't know.Sure...6...with a lot of zero...is evident but i am a thief?Of what? Money? Aren't Money!!!!!Remember it, please!!!!
A complete ban is too much for me, sure i hate the cheat and who disturb my game and my competition.Cannot reset the player stat in a simple way for "incorrect conduit"?For example with a patch with a feedback about the player status for those inglorius players...Please, please, make it easy, and to all play for fun, use the money to buy credits or win a regular game.
Dear Dear Dear Bioware, i love your game ME3,(i'm waiting for the summer cinematics release...).Is business, I know, but start with people that want to have fun.I remember the time when my brother keep money from the "monopoly" bank to win a play, he was only ...a little child. I never "ban" my brother from a "monopoly" play, just scream, smiles and fun at the end of theday.
Please give to those players a chance.Players all: I'm an Italian (37Y) player and i am correct, fire and hide, run and escape, recharge and fire again,this is a balance, an equilibrium just for fun.Where is the fun if I use a cheat code?I use it cause i loose my plays and the game is too hard for me?I loose 2 time!!In my games and in my life.
Hi to all and to Bioware team.

#1011
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is there a fix coming for the people that exploit the fire base hydra map i always see at least 3 people near the boxes and end up walking up to the water fall and not beung able to be killed only with ranged weapons and they can move about freely

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First of all, for the avoidance of doubts, let me straighten something out: "I've not been banished, and I've never used any kinds of glitches, exploits or cheats in ME3! Up to this point, neither my own, nor the behaviour of others, resulted in any kind of disproportional profit! Just one of my weapons is maxed out, and I'm still missing some of the chars in MP, while my N7 is around 600...therefore, plz don't forget: I'm not here, to justify or produce myself!"
Not just by the fact, that players could be glitched or exploited by other players, without doing anything wrong on their own, within my perception, the banning-behaviour of EA/Bioware is an impertinence. They're selling a product, full of homemade runaway-bugs, -glitches and -exploits, and instead of fixing them, they're punishing and banishing the "beta-testers", which already paid for a buggy product. Even worse: They let the people savage... !
Don't forget: "Neither you have to manipulate anything upon the Software for yourself, nor you have to misuse something on your own, to profit from glitches or exploits - and eventually got banished !" EA/Bioware really wants me to: Check every single match for anomalous amounts of credits, misbehaviour of other people, and other anomalies...if I'll become "victimized" by any of their deficiencies, I got to do THEIR job, contact the support to report it, and then complain myself? Otherwise I could get banished? They must be kidding!  According to my oppinion, this is no way to act on customers...!
Since "Shattered Steel", I bought almost any of Biowares games on PC, and became a big fan of their work...but not any longer! At the end of a long list, this is the final reason, wherefore I will never buy any of EAs/Biowares products again. Pity! Shame on you!
To all the underdogs, barking and yelling for punishment : "Why so offended, where did you came off badly? Why this watchdog-behaviour, what's your profit thereof? Couldn't it be you..."
It's not like I'm feeling ashamed for people, not knowing their own rights, but for people who are trying to chop the rights of others...
"sorry for my bad english"

(This will be my first, and my last posting, in this thread; no matter what'll follow! Incinerate now...):devil:

Modifié par Rokzta, 12 mai 2012 - 02:17 .


#1013
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Again... Is changing FoV considered cheating?...

#1014
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I suspect that killing multiple brutes with single sticky grenade on gold is a cheat.
Is there some kind of procedure and is there any use in reporting cheaters?

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AdverDoren wrote...

I suspect that killing multiple brutes with single sticky grenade on gold is a cheat.
Is there some kind of procedure and is there any use in reporting cheaters?

I reported a cheat.  After over a month I got a reply back (there is an e-mail someplace to report cheaters) stating simply they were looking into it, they take cheating seriously, but I wouldn't hear anything on the results.

If you do report it, the date is needed along with the name of the one you think is a cheater and why.  I've heard some in PC have been banned or had other actions taken against them for cheating.  As for a sticky grenade, well one could.  Granted, each of the brutes would need to be rather close to each other and fairly low on health.

#1016
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Saw my first real cheater on Xbox about half an hour ago. Guy was playing QI, but his weapon and missile launcher model were solid white and blue in color. The start menu said the Faction was Geth, but Reapers were spawning and the guy was able to take control of a Reaper enemy with Sabotage. Also had an aimbot going with faster reload speed on his Widow. He was scoring headshots everytime he fired with less than a second between shots. Surprise, surprise: his gamertag has "Xx...xX" around his name, XxFullCl1pxX.

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Was just witness to a non-host game hack. Was playing with a friend who was host with a GI, and I know he doesn't hack. I had a Valiant on my SI, and so did a different player, an Asari Adept. My Valiant behaved normally, 3 round clip, reload, etc. The AA's Valiant had like a 15 round clip. It wasn't just lag at my end affecting what I was seeing, my friend the host also saw the AA's Valiant firing like 15 times per reload and said that's not right.

This is news to me. So apparantly people have now found a way to bypass the host's configuration when playing as non-hosts.

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Met someone with a claymore that had unlimited ammo and no need for reloading.
First I thought he was damn lucky getting 3-5 enemies with one shot, but I ran after him and saw that he just pulled the trigger constantly while his gun was making that *pffft* sound (no ammo). Having no ammo didn't slow him down tho.
He wasn't the host by the way and nobody else had anything weird going on.

Modifié par Arcataye, 14 mai 2012 - 09:20 .


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ok i was playing this weekend a lot and what i saw was ridiculous. 1 shot one kill m3 predator, widow with no reload, increase time speed and this is getting worse and worse. Now i've got bunch of videos and screen shots like this and my question is someone punishing these poeple or just the ones who hackin credits? :crying:

Modifié par ynski, 14 mai 2012 - 09:34 .


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Two strange features in two matches recently :

Cerberus spawns on bronze difficulty. It was like they were cloned 2 times over because they appeared in a big crowd! And not just one big crowd, there were about 3 in the first wave and they bore down on us en masse. I left in the middle of it; first wave. It was not normal.

Ammo count stays at 15 and I've problems reloading because the count went to minus after I offloaded several bullets. Going to ammo depot makes no difference, the count always maxed out at 15.

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Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Two strange features in two matches recently :

Cerberus spawns on bronze difficulty. It was like they were cloned 2 times over because they appeared in a big crowd! And not just one big crowd, there were about 3 in the first wave and they bore down on us en masse. I left in the middle of it; first wave. It was not normal.

Ammo count stays at 15 and I've problems reloading because the count went to minus after I offloaded several bullets. Going to ammo depot makes no difference, the count always maxed out at 15.


The host had modded files. The ammo glitch is a result of it.

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Stumbled upon a dude that was level 43 in one game... Thought you couldn't pass level 20...

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Langeman wrote...

Stumbled upon a dude that was level 43 in one game... Thought you couldn't pass level 20...

Umm.. what?  Like his actual character was somehow level 43, or did you just somehow mistake his N7 level being 43 as his character level?

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I just got out of a strange match. I just entered a FBW mid match, and everything was getting killed in one hit. Some guy that had a mic was saying everything was glitchy. Then I shot a few rounds from my shotgun. 1 hit an Atlas, full shields and armor. Guy with said mic said that the match was hacked somehow and left. I decided to stay around so I could find out who the host was. I reported the leader, assuming that person is the cause of the hack?

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Similar thing as Greggorio
I played a match where I would randomly get 880+ reserve ammo (using a Claymore), sometimes get full heal, and one voice player complained of lag (I didn't feel much, maybe I'm dead to lag nowadays) before complaining of hacks and leaving.

After a bit, I would notice that chucking a prox mine could instant kill enemies sometimes.

The hacker was using a Falcon, which seemed to be firing as fast as a Striker if not more so, but my firing speed with a claymore remained constant, maybe because it was 1 shot clip.

The other teammate was using a Mantis, so I have no idea if the firing speed hack applied to all teammates like the others.

Hacks noticed:
1. Full heal; might be a toggle because I remember running from fire and still having full health
2. Reserve Ammo restock, it would go back to normal after a bit; maybe a toggle?
3. Instant kill switch, it didn't happen all the time, so I assume a toggle
4. Firing speed: Only noticeable on the Falcon user...might be a group toggle?