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see people have different points on cheating but nevermind InfamousResult. Any way as some 1 has pointed out above might just be he hasn't named any of the other players and choice to only play a infiltrator. People are always to quick to judge something just because they don't understand how it's possible.

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serious question: what do people really get out of snitching?

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Blest HR wrote...

see people have different points on cheating but nevermind InfamousResult. Any way as some 1 has pointed out above might just be he hasn't named any of the other players and choice to only play a infiltrator. People are always to quick to judge something just because they don't understand how it's possible.


Its not possible. he owuld have had to have a character card out of one of the pack he brought to get the widow X which would have leveled up somehting. the chances of not are slim and none. a lvel 21-23 is more believable then a level 20

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Blest HR wrote...

see people have different points on cheating but nevermind InfamousResult. Any way as some 1 has pointed out above might just be he hasn't named any of the other players and choice to only play a infiltrator. People are always to quick to judge something just because they don't understand how it's possible.


That's not the point. I understand that it's entirely possible that certain people are way, WAY luckier than others, or that they might only play a certain class, blah blah blah. But if we report the most suspicious players, players that obviously stand out and have a higher chance of being a cheater, the Bioware Mods can do their job and determine whether or not that player is a cheater or not, and take appropriate action. They're the ones with the information and tools to know the difference.

It is still against the rules to name people, on the forums, that we think are cheaters, so I still suggest to anybody posting in this thread to report supposed cheaters to Bioware Staff rather than posting about them in this thread.

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They don't care any way I wrote to them over myself over the credit glitch and never got back to me with any response or action. Have you's ever heard of most of the game companies just trying to scare people. Bungie and Treyarch are the only 1's I know that take action on people. The rest of them don't bother inless it's PC.

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Yes yes, Blest, I'm sure we'll all take your word for it when you say that no action was taken and that everybody should just cheat anyway. I'm sure you calling the Staff liars will go over really well, too.

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InfamousResult wrote...

Yes yes, Blest, I'm sure we'll all take your word for it when you say that no action was taken and that everybody should just cheat anyway. I'm sure you calling the Staff liars will go over really well, too.

it's called scare tactics but it don't matter because never get though to some 1 like you who seems to cluster round every word the staff say.

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Pff, yeah, I feel so insulted by the guy who cheats.

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upinya slayin wrote...

Blest HR wrote...

see people have different points on cheating but nevermind InfamousResult. Any way as some 1 has pointed out above might just be he hasn't named any of the other players and choice to only play a infiltrator. People are always to quick to judge something just because they don't understand how it's possible.


Its not possible. he owuld have had to have a character card out of one of the pack he brought to get the widow X which would have leveled up somehting. the chances of not are slim and none. a lvel 21-23 is more believable then a level 20


*sigh* Yes it is possible. I posted this just one page back...

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/9895899/43#12138315

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I consider cheating gaining an unfair advanatge and since its a team game i don't see how its possible. gold farming is no diff then spending real money on packs. as long as your not glithcing the game i don't see it as cheating. I still earn eveyrhting the hard way but i'm good neough to play gold only and get 75k gold every 20-25 mins (was doing gold runs in 22-23 mins 2 nights ago)

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Strange that cheating is an issue with co-op play vs computer. Sure it makes it a lot easier to kill the enemies, but in the end it hurts nobody. I don't agree with it, see it as cheap, but I don't think I'd be calling for them to be banned from playing or anything.

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its not cheating when it's a bug in the MP that was not fixed by the development team. So you can't really say it's cheating when it's bioware's fault that they did not fix the bug once they new about it. People are only taking advantage of this MP bug, But yes why even bother using this as a means to get easy credits, when its not all that hard to just play the MP with your buddies & get the EXP. & Credits as you normally would

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yeah just got into a game and the one peron wa telling me. "hey we are doing a glitch im going to leave on wave 1 and it will start at wave 10 and complete the objective then die" Uhhh yeah that sounds like a giant bucket of fun..

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Well, since most don't think cheating is really an issue (no moral conscious) but I do, I'll just keep pointing them out.  Should not be a problem, right? That is unless you are a cheater also.

Don't worry cheaters, I'll only point out the very obvious ones. Posted Image

Ever notice that the ones in question lock their profile.  I wonder why. Posted Image

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its not cheating when it's a bug in the MP that was not fixed by the development team.


No. It is.

Do NOT tell people that it's not cheating. The staff have specifically addressed the issue- THEY say it's cheating, and the Terms of Service that we ALL agreed to says that it's cheating. It is cheating. It was never not cheating. The end.

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I consider invincible geth hunters cheating. Seriously, what the hell is this, why isn't it fixed.

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Tsardova wrote...

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Tell me if this guy (vlaras N7-20) is not cheating.  I have a N7 rating of +1100 and I don't have his weapons that high.

I think I will just start posting thier Name and picture of the gear here, along with an email telling them I reported them.

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The best thing to do is to e-mail these types of things to me3mpcheaters@bioware.com - Trust me ;)


I do not know if this qualifies as cheating as the player could have paid out serious microsoft points to buy the necessary number of packs ......


And he could have ONLY ever played as an infiltrator AND NEVER PROMOTED.


Doesn't really make sense.
Even if he only played as an Infiltrator and never promoted, he'll still get to around 100ish N7 to get the Rare weapon at X level.

BUT! if he used micro points/ Bioware points/ whatever watchamacallit, it MIGHT be genuine.
Can't make any safe assumption really. Gotta wait for the verdict from Admin side.


no he would not. i was N7 @ 20 for the first 4 days of MP. i used nothing but soldier and didnt create any other characters = N7 does not go beyond 20 = your point invalid. N7 has no hold over the unlocks. i had a LV XIII Mattock by day 3.

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upinya slayin wrote...

Blest HR wrote...

see people have different points on cheating but nevermind InfamousResult. Any way as some 1 has pointed out above might just be he hasn't named any of the other players and choice to only play a infiltrator. People are always to quick to judge something just because they don't understand how it's possible.


Its not possible. he owuld have had to have a character card out of one of the pack he brought to get the widow X which would have leveled up somehting. the chances of not are slim and none. a lvel 21-23 is more believable then a level 20


character cards dont level up the N7 rating if there is no character made under said class. please get your facts right.

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WaffleCrab wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Blest HR wrote...

see people have different points on cheating but nevermind InfamousResult. Any way as some 1 has pointed out above might just be he hasn't named any of the other players and choice to only play a infiltrator. People are always to quick to judge something just because they don't understand how it's possible.


Its not possible. he owuld have had to have a character card out of one of the pack he brought to get the widow X which would have leveled up somehting. the chances of not are slim and none. a lvel 21-23 is more believable then a level 20


character cards dont level up the N7 rating if there is no character made under said class. please get your facts right.

glad to see that some people have common sense

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. What someone does is their own choice. I've chosen not to partake in this glitch. If those people want to use this glitch, let them. I'll continue to play without using it.

It's really as simple as that. It's all about choice.

Modifié par LD_Dragon, 22 mai 2012 - 01:50 .


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InfamousResult wrote...

StarKiller66 wrote...

its not cheating when it's a bug in the MP that was not fixed by the development team.


No. It is.

Do NOT tell people that it's not cheating. The staff have specifically addressed the issue- THEY say it's cheating, and the Terms of Service that we ALL agreed to says that it's cheating. It is cheating. It was never not cheating. The end.


Its a bug/glitch that's been in the MP since the demo & was still there on day one of games launch. Its not a hack or cheating when the bug/glitch was not even fixed after there was conformation that it was there on the demos MP. This is the ME3 devloment teams problem & insted of fixing there bugged up MP. they rather just not do anything to fix the bug/glitch and let players use it as they like. So there's the facts this is the ME3 devloment teams issue & they need to fix it.

Modifié par StarKiller66, 22 mai 2012 - 01:38 .


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Emailing the cheater email is the appropriate response. Outing people you suspect (even if there is a plausible explanation behind how they achieved what they did) is a akin to McCarthyism.
That player may only play 1 class and have never unlocked another. They may have spent points or worked hard to get their weapons levelled.
You have made a stand against one form of unethical behavior, but are in engaged in another.
There are avenues for reporting suspected cheaters. Leave it to the admins.
There are numerous posts of players being banned so they are taking action.

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StarKiller66 wrote...


Its a bug/glitch that's been in the MP since the demo & was still there on day one of games launch. Its not a hack or cheating when the bug/glitch was not even fixed after there was conformation that it was there on the demos MP. This is the ME3 devloment teams problem & insted of fixing there bugged up MP. they rather just not do anything to fix the bug/glitch and let players use it as they like. So there's the facts this is the ME3 devloment teams issue & they need to fix it.


So if a house leaves its front door open at night, and the owner knows it, it is o.k. for people to come in and steal what they want? Hey, the owner knows his front door is open, right?

Lets not hold these people that come in and steal accountable because the owner knew the door was open.  It does not matter that it is legally amd morally wrong, right?

Your logic an disgraceful and pathetic.  You are one of those that believe all is fair as long as it does not affect you. And then we wonder why the world is so messed up.

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Oggy666 wrote...

 level 2058 is not that much, if I had promoted everytime I could, I would be around 5000 minimum (I am around 1000 - my first promotion came in Raptor operation I think where was tho goal to promote 2 characters, until that day I didnt even notice the Promote button and was stuck on 120 for weeks - and have played from release date).


Exagerrating. 5000 Minimum?? The #1 person on the leaderboard is over 6000 approaching 7000 fast..   I myself am "only" over 1000, as I enjoy promoting ASAP to feel like a freah start and using weaker characters again.

I don't know how they do it... Do the top 10 ppl not have a life, or do they play Gold non stop all day?...

Or is there somehow cheating involved?? 

Hey whats your level?  "OHHH JUST 2500 N7"  

"EHHHHHH DATS NOT MUCH!! Weak!  PPFFFTT!!!"



I'm about 1200, as I first promoted in Raptor Friday, I went from 120 to cca 800 in a week, maybe 10 days. Than I played ME1 and ME2 along with ME3MP promoting nothing. As I started ME3SP again, I made 300 in one day - helping that I get many char cards and spending 3M on PSP made all classes immediately from lvl 1 to 16-18.
And earning money in gold games isn't so hard. So I don't say that no one is cheating, but if you have enough time to play, earning gold money, and spending them only for PSPs, its pretty fast. Of coarse, If someone goes N7 2000 in one day, its suspicious (I think there was someone N7 over 10000 long time ago, probably banned and cleared)...but definitely 5000 was reachable. If it's cheater or not, thats on Bioware, they see the leaderboards and can check themselves.  How many people report someone due to his N7 rank (especially when its 3000), they should be banned for a week, to make them start thinking.

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MadeyeFergy wrote...

StarKiller66 wrote...


Its a bug/glitch that's been in the MP since the demo & was still there on day one of games launch. Its not a hack or cheating when the bug/glitch was not even fixed after there was conformation that it was there on the demos MP. This is the ME3 devloment teams problem & insted of fixing there bugged up MP. they rather just not do anything to fix the bug/glitch and let players use it as they like. So there's the facts this is the ME3 devloment teams issue & they need to fix it.


So if a house leaves its front door open at night, and the owner knows it, it is o.k. for people to come in and steal what they want? Hey, the owner knows his front door is open, right?

Lets not hold these people that come in and steal accountable because the owner knew the door was open.  It does not matter that it is legally amd morally wrong, right?

Your logic an disgraceful and pathetic.  You are one of those that believe all is fair as long as it does not affect you. And then we wonder why the world is so messed up.


That's a terrible allegory. Firstly, there's no 'stuff', it's just digital information and it's only useful to two people 1) The user, and 2) Leaderboards. Also in this situation if some one takes something, they're not depriving it from someone else. By spamming levels and packs you're not stopping someone else from getting them.

Also at what point does a glitch become a cheat? We've all played games where you've found an exploit to beat the game. Like one particular corner where a boss can't get to you, or abusing the AI by shooting arrows at something outside it's noticeable range. Personally I draw the line at fiddling with the code, but I have a more general ethic to be 'sportsman' like.

So while I wouldn't call this cheating I think it's unsportsman like, and a bit stupid. Particularly with videogames. They're meant to be fun in and of themselves aren't they? You really are cheating yourself because half the fun is chasing the carrot, and if you have to ruin the gameplay to get the carrot, and then the carrot comes to easily, then you've ruined the fun.

If it was competitive co-op I wouldn't even play with strangers, that would ruin it for me. As it's co-op, I ignore it. And it's also makes any leaderboards worthless.

So my two cents, it's not cheating but what a sad thing to do instead of playing the game.