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#1151
Colonel Sheppard

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Wow people dont really get it. N7 rating means jack****, it does not influence anything besides your E-Dong. it does not indicate time played, it does not indicate experience level, it sure as hell does not influence your unlocks. and it does not require you to use money to maintain a low n7.  Considering if they played from the beginning, i would not be surprised if they have one or 2 of the ultra rares maxed out.

Love the fact that people still dont understand what N7 stands for.


No, it is you who doesn't understand jack.  Most, if not everyone knows N7 ratings means jack.  I only promote when I want to test out new builds and other guns.  My gold game count to silver+bronze probably is in the ratio of 10-20 to 1.  Knowing how hard it is to get an ultra rare weapon upgrade, it's hard to believe people out there are lucky enough to get 10 Saber and 10 BW upgrades back to back.  There are 8 ultra rares * 10 levels = 80 levels.  Add on olny 10% chance to get an upgrade in the PSP.  The odds are extremely against you to be that lucky.  I have cashed in 10s of millions of credits on PSP and not a single ultra rare close to level 10 other than the wraith.  Could someone be that lucky?  It's possible, but highly unlikely..

Look, I'm not that p*ssed at the situation.  The goal of multiplayer seems to be to level up guns.  If someone cheats to get all the X guns, then they're left with no more goals to accomplish, thus removing the fun out of the game for them.  If I'm playing with someone who cheated to get an X ultra rares and that helps me survive gold, I have no problem with that.  I'm not really angry with these people.  I'm angry that it's been a month and a half since my last BW upgrade and I just got the Saber two weeks ago.

#1152
WaffleCrab

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Colonel Sheppard wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...
Wow people dont really get it. N7 rating means jack****, it does not influence anything besides your E-Dong. it does not indicate time played, it does not indicate experience level, it sure as hell does not influence your unlocks. and it does not require you to use money to maintain a low n7.  Considering if they played from the beginning, i would not be surprised if they have one or 2 of the ultra rares maxed out.

Love the fact that people still dont understand what N7 stands for.


No, it is you who doesn't understand jack.  Most, if not everyone knows N7 ratings means jack.  I only promote when I want to test out new builds and other guns.  My gold game count to silver+bronze probably is in the ratio of 10-20 to 1.  Knowing how hard it is to get an ultra rare weapon upgrade, it's hard to believe people out there are lucky enough to get 10 Saber and 10 BW upgrades back to back.  There are 8 ultra rares * 10 levels = 80 levels.  Add on olny 10% chance to get an upgrade in the PSP.  The odds are extremely against you to be that lucky.  I have cashed in 10s of millions of credits on PSP and not a single ultra rare close to level 10 other than the wraith.  Could someone be that lucky?  It's possible, but highly unlikely..

Look, I'm not that p*ssed at the situation.  The goal of multiplayer seems to be to level up guns.  If someone cheats to get all the X guns, then they're left with no more goals to accomplish, thus removing the fun out of the game for them.  If I'm playing with someone who cheated to get an X ultra rares and that helps me survive gold, I have no problem with that.  I'm not really angry with these people.  I'm angry that it's been a month and a half since my last BW upgrade and I just got the Saber two weeks ago.


Then why would you mention the N7 rating in your post then as if it mattered to the unlocks:whistle:
Hell a friend who i see propably 1-2 times a year has an N7 rating of 60 something and he has javelin and BW at IX. so i would not say its uncommon to see people getting those upgrades.

Edit: To refresh your memory.

Colonel Sheppard wrote...

Ok, we
need screen capture capabilities now. I'm seeing a lot more level 120
with GPS X, Black Widow X, and Saber X now. Worst thing was seeing a sub
300 level player with Saber X AND BW X. Wouldn't begrudge them if I
didnt' keep getting character cards and N7 Wraith upgrades instead of
the real guns. I've been playing since the game was released and I've
probably played more gold games than bronze and silver combined and have
zero X level ultra rares.

Also a person who has nice round number like that, 120 N7 usually means he has the builds he wants and sees no prospect in promoting. so yeah, relating someones N7 rating to the unlocks like you did... So i gues your the one who truly doesnt know jack, considering you kinda talked yourself in a bag there.

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 25 mai 2012 - 10:45 .


#1153
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Heh I was just in a multiplayer match where there was a guy who had a fully automatic avenger which sounded like a minigun so I guess his firing rate was just a tad boosted. He was killing geth left and right and my puny Mattock had no chance against him.

I don't know about the naming and shaming policies here but I'll just leave his name untold.

#1154
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WaffleCrab wrote...

Tsardova wrote...



i said so because you dont even need to use real cash to do it, N7 rating has nothing to do with the unlocks or how long you have been playing either,  and if he does not play anything else than inf. hes n7 does not go above 20. I played as a N7 20 rank for 4 first days, nothing but soldier, didnt even look at other classes, and i had mattock VIII by day 3. and no, he would not have an N7 rating past 20, if he does not create any other characters than infiltrator. no cash is needed either.

So yeah, get your facts righ. my statement is right, and does not involve money in anyway.


Well then, good for you for being right.
*brofist.
;P

and might I add, since your "facts" is right, then the guy with the Rare X at N7 20 must've gotten the best persevearance in class preference. Cause in reality no matter how good you are in one class that you'll hold on to that class no matter what, there will be "temptation" to try other classes for the sake of extended replayability.

Modifié par Tsardova, 26 mai 2012 - 06:05 .


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i don't think the problem is players cheating its cerberus cheating. the amount of times i have had a phantom tractor beam-instant kill me or a prime / atlas shoot through a full on concrete wall (not a barricade or thin piece of metal) also grenades that have a mind of their own thrown by cerberus.

i think cheaters here are the in game enemies

other small things i have witnessed

atlas on the roof of the hydra buildings
enemies with infinite health that can only be killed by making them fall out of the map

being killed while in a charge

the cheaters here are clearly the god damn enemies :P

Modifié par Linkinator, 26 mai 2012 - 10:54 .


#1156
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Well besides the cheating and obvious flaming against each other, I kinda agree with one of the posters on the first page.
AN in-game text chat would really pitch up the possible communication between squad members because of the class represantatives (hope thats right^^) or the available equipment or something, also an in-game buddy system would benefit and you wouldnt need to open the overlay which is not even fully customizable at size, shape and postion of the windows displayed in it.

The Mute option is IN MY OPINION (imagine the underscore please) not such a big deal the only thing i had so far was someone who didn't have a headset on but the voice chat on "always on" and i think a simple "could you kindly..." would suffice. Also the "always on" feature should be tackled with a voice activation feature so not every single scratch and cough is recorded for everyone to hear.
And Last but not least, for the people WITHOUT a Microphone an in-session Order-reel would maybe a benefit too because if a match has two infiltrators in it isnt it better to let those two handle the 4 devices because of their cloak and as such being not an immediate target than the soldier/sentinel/vanguard who could really do some damage?

Phew...i hope anyone who reads this is thinking about it first before flaming, if thought about it and flame 's okay^^.

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WaffleCrab

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Tsardova wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

Tsardova wrote...



i said so because you dont even need to use real cash to do it, N7 rating has nothing to do with the unlocks or how long you have been playing either,  and if he does not play anything else than inf. hes n7 does not go above 20. I played as a N7 20 rank for 4 first days, nothing but soldier, didnt even look at other classes, and i had mattock VIII by day 3. and no, he would not have an N7 rating past 20, if he does not create any other characters than infiltrator. no cash is needed either.

So yeah, get your facts righ. my statement is right, and does not involve money in anyway.


Well then, good for you for being right.
*brofist.
;P

and might I add, since your "facts" is right, then the guy with the Rare X at N7 20 must've gotten the best persevearance in class preference. Cause in reality no matter how good you are in one class that you'll hold on to that class no matter what, there will be "temptation" to try other classes for the sake of extended replayability.


I wasnt tempted for 4 days to try anything but human soldier, and by day 3 at n7 rank 20. i had Mattock VIII which is rare btw :) One of my friends has N7 40. he has made characters in only 2 classes. Infiltrator and adept. and hes got more ultra rares than i have, even though he has played like a 1½ weeks less. so there are alot of people who are dedicated towards only 1 or 2 classes. :)

#1158
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WaffleCrab wrote...

A.) ID dropping like that is against forum rules.
B.) there are established ways to report these use those.
C.) EA/BW still wount do anything, and thats their official stance. (i know since i posted a question to support)
D.) your a whiney dick for taking personal(against someone specific) ingame problems to the forums.



What a Troll.  Loves to comment on everything to see his typing on the forum.  Get a life man.

Wait, I will now be flamed by the Troll as he has nothing better to do in his life. What a loser.

Modifié par MadeyeFergy, 26 mai 2012 - 11:48 .


#1159
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I think we all need to realize that it is still a game and people that actually hack the game are the real cheaters.just standing there leaching is a cheap dirty tactic that unfortunately can't be punished. If u do it u suck more than the hackers and should die painfully at the hands of a banshee.

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WaffleCrab

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MadeyeFergy wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

A.) ID dropping like that is against forum rules.
B.) there are established ways to report these use those.
C.) EA/BW still wount do anything, and thats their official stance. (i know since i posted a question to support)
D.) your a whiney dick for taking personal(against someone specific) ingame problems to the forums.



What a Troll.  Loves to comment on everything to see his typing on the forum.  Get a life man.

Wait, I will now be flamed by the Troll as he has nothing better to do in his life. What a loser.


So pointing out that he broke the rules, acted like a dick towards a random player by dropping hes ID and telling him that reporting them is pointless anyway since EA's and BW's official stance is they take no action towards idling, makes me a troll? OK... I will happily bear the stigma of being a troll for Stating the facts as they are, if that is what it takes to get the message through, btw i was giving him a free advise how to avoid a ban... you know. not dropping other peoples ID's on the forum.

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Trakarg wrote...

System:  PC
Cheaters Gamertag:  Alingon
Map:  Firebase Hydra
Description
of Cheat:  He wasn't cheating, but he was sitting at the extraction AFK.  I was leeching off of our effort.  I know he was there because, on occasion, he'd move to take cover.

Please ban people like this.  It's no fun playing with people who won't even play.


So you were leeching off your teammates efforts? Haha

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WaffleCrab

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Saik0tic wrote...

Trakarg wrote...

System:  PC
Cheaters Gamertag:  Alingon
Map:  Firebase Hydra
Description
of Cheat:  He wasn't cheating, but he was sitting at the extraction AFK.  I was leeching off of our effort.  I know he was there because, on occasion, he'd move to take cover.

Please ban people like this.  It's no fun playing with people who won't even play.


So you were leeching off your teammates efforts? Haha


:D thats golden dude :D i didnt even notice that.

#1163
Hazuzi

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Maybe he reported himself?

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There are established procedures for reporting both forum and multiplayer rules violations. Insulting users or accusing them of cheating is not among them, nor is tossing around allegations of trolling. I have warned or banned some of the users above because of this.

Please keep the discussion in this thread civil and on-topic.

Thank you.

RI

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 27 mai 2012 - 06:07 .


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got to love the moderators and there ban hammers

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Colonel Sheppard wrote...

Ok, we need screen capture capabilities now. I'm seeing a lot more level 120 with GPS X, Black Widow X, and Saber X now. Worst thing was seeing a sub 300 level player with Saber X AND BW X. Wouldn't begrudge them if I didnt' keep getting character cards and N7 Wraith upgrades instead of the real guns. I've been playing since the game was released and I've probably played more gold games than bronze and silver combined and have zero X level ultra rares.


Why is being 120 and having rare/ultra-rare at X bad or indication of cheating in any way? I didn't even bother promoting for over a month of playing MP. I thought it better to just stay at 20 and learn the different classes. Was able to instantly max out each new race that I unlocked as well.
If not for the event that calls for promoting I probably wouldn't promote anymore. If I want to respec I get the cards, no need to promote.

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Um completed a game today Firebase white geth gold. All factions started to show up and I joined into the 3rd round so I don't know who was the leader but a person called redstryker(? not sure if correct) was killing everything with an avenger brutes, banshees primes whatever. Just though I would let you know. I have been awarded credits but haven't used them so if you want to take them back that's cool just don't wanna spend them and then get banned or account reset.

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Just reported someone in PC multiplayer with a Level X N7 Valkyrie. That's right; the damn thing's not even in MP mode, and level X, no less. Maybe it was a dev testing the weapon's capabilities or maybe, somehow, it got snuck into the ultra-rares, but I seriously doubt it.

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I just reported a player who was leeching on a game.

God, these lechers ****** me off so bad. I can handle them when I'm using my GI or my BS, but any other occasion, they're just a liability and I wish they all died from ass cancer.

Modifié par Rodia Driftwood, 28 mai 2012 - 09:50 .


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join a gold game today i saw like 2 other low level characters in lobby so i thought, meh might as well play as a level 1 cause i thought they were trolling, so game started and now i saw why they were playing with low level characters cause of infinite health, recorded a 2 min video for bioware and left during wave 3, aint playing with cheaters.

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I just participated in a very strange gold match, there were tons of husk cannibals or marauders, but all of them were very weak, my black widow had 100 shots, but I had to reload after every single shot (my ammo went -7 or -15 or whatever each time), and i got 300 k for the win. Was that a bug or the host created it intentionally? I didn't spend credits yet, bioware feel free to take them back.

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shatun wrote...

I just participated in a very strange gold match, there were tons of husk cannibals or marauders, but all of them were very weak, my black widow had 100 shots, but I had to reload after every single shot (my ammo went -7 or -15 or whatever each time), and i got 300 k for the win. Was that a bug or the host created it intentionally? I didn't spend credits yet, bioware feel free to take them back.


when i joined a hacked match, i leave the match early on, recording a bit of the match if bioware wants proof.

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Eduadinho wrote...

Um completed a game today Firebase white geth gold. All factions started to show up and I joined into the 3rd round so I don't know who was the leader but a person called redstryker(? not sure if correct) was killing everything with an avenger brutes, banshees primes whatever. Just though I would let you know. I have been awarded credits but haven't used them so if you want to take them back that's cool just don't wanna spend them and then get banned or account reset.


just report em to the support, no need to ID drop here :whistle:

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Shatterhand1701 wrote...

Just reported someone in PC multiplayer with a Level X N7 Valkyrie. That's right; the damn thing's not even in MP mode, and level X, no less. Maybe it was a dev testing the weapon's capabilities or maybe, somehow, it got snuck into the ultra-rares, but I seriously doubt it.


valkyrie is in MP mode so get your facts right, but lv X is too much though, should be at lv 4 at max, LV 5 after this event.

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Rodia Driftwood wrote...

I just reported a player who was leeching on a game.

God, these lechers ****** me off so bad. I can handle them when I'm using my GI or my BS, but any other occasion, they're just a liability and I wish they all died from ass cancer.


EA/BW wount do anything to reported leechers, all they can do is raise their hands and shrug.