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#1226
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Quikraptor wrote...

Well, since we're on the topic, I took this footage literally 5 minutes ago. Probably still playing:

Inb4 "ITS COOP STFU". I know. This ruins the whole idea of co-op.

Needs to be banned like right now.
Also, how do you have fun that way? :P

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Pensrule1985 wrote...

I was playing XBOX 360 version and jumped into a game where one player, ever time they died,fell through the floor and respawned on another part of the map. It was Firebase White and ever time they died, they respawned at the evacuation point. I have reported them to MP cheating email address.


You know, sometimes that just happens on FBW. There are a couple of spots (I've never been able to figure out exactly where) - die there, and you will miraculously respawn at the LZ. EVERY time is weird, granted, but even so I'd say bug, not cheat, particularly since this was on 360 and not PC.

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MaximilianPower wrote...

Pensrule1985 wrote...

I was playing XBOX 360 version and jumped into a game where one player, ever time they died,fell through the floor and respawned on another part of the map. It was Firebase White and ever time they died, they respawned at the evacuation point. I have reported them to MP cheating email address.


You know, sometimes that just happens on FBW. There are a couple of spots (I've never been able to figure out exactly where) - die there, and you will miraculously respawn at the LZ. EVERY time is weird, granted, but even so I'd say bug, not cheat, particularly since this was on 360 and not PC.


its not cheating. i was runing away one time and got hit from behind from a prime and fell through and respawned. how exactly was a cheating by running away and randomly  being on a spot that causes a glitch when i died out of pure luck? people need to chill with all the cheating talk. the game has bugs in it and sometimes you stumble upon one by accident. it doesn't make you a cheater. Now if you spam it over and over again, thats different. thats exploiting a bug more then cheating IMO but ruins the spirit of the game

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Falling through the map is a bug not cheating

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Looks like there's yet another XP exploit (or someone with way to much money on their hands) judging by the PC Leaderboard showing someone who reached N7 over 20.500 within one day (he just appeared there 2 days ago...)

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upinya slayin wrote...

MaximilianPower wrote...

Pensrule1985 wrote...

I was playing XBOX 360 version and jumped into a game where one player, ever time they died,fell through the floor and respawned on another part of the map. It was Firebase White and ever time they died, they respawned at the evacuation point. I have reported them to MP cheating email address.


You know, sometimes that just happens on FBW. There are a couple of spots (I've never been able to figure out exactly where) - die there, and you will miraculously respawn at the LZ. EVERY time is weird, granted, but even so I'd say bug, not cheat, particularly since this was on 360 and not PC.


its not cheating. i was runing away one time and got hit from behind from a prime and fell through and respawned. how exactly was a cheating by running away and randomly  being on a spot that causes a glitch when i died out of pure luck? people need to chill with all the cheating talk. the game has bugs in it and sometimes you stumble upon one by accident. it doesn't make you a cheater. Now if you spam it over and over again, thats different. thats exploiting a bug more then cheating IMO but ruins the spirit of the game

Agree! It's not cheating it's a bug. When I have seen this, the player fell through the floor after he/she died and respawn at the LZ. It's work with every one. Next time I tried it too, but I wasn't teleport to the LZ I just simple get up with full health and shield after I die. I tried 3 times, and the same happen. I am not using it no point of it, no fun.
If u interest, this is the exact location, right in the door (Xbox360 dont know other platform):
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In the door at the red X mark.
BioWare should fix it.

Modifié par Hoz_Hun, 05 juin 2012 - 11:11 .


#1232
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And one other thing: I do not recommend to use it, because usually others are fighting in the interior, so no point standing in the door just because u can't die there.

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Hoz_Hun wrote...

And one other thing: I do not recommend to use it, because usually others are fighting in the interior, so no point standing in the door just because u can't die there.


like i said it ruins the spirit of the game when you do that. But i wouldn't call it cheating. anything that can be accidently done isn't cheating.

cheating =
gold glitching (via the wave reload that was fixed in the patch supposdly)
modding the game
glitching the com packs

not cheating =
falling through a map and reviving
spamming FBW/G/G
using an infiltrator with the krysea rifle

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ShadowOfZara wrote...

In the demo I ran into one game where everybody was one shotting everything on silver, even with wimpy weapons and that just ruined that game for me, was so freaking boring, so don't tell me cheating doesn't negatively affect anyone. You may not mind being carried through a match, or earning a billion credits in one match or whatnot, but those of us who actually want to EARN what they get, not to mention have fun and the possibility of a challenge, are quite harmed by cheaters. Also yes, I know I can just leave a match where someone is obviously cheating, but it isn't always so obvious >.>


i have had to say no to invites to go a credit boosting from other players, because i enjoy the challenge of fighting the ingame A.I. and seeing the principle of GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out) come to frutition.  i didn't spend pre-order money to get the collecter's edition of the third game, only to boost, because in principle it is lazy, boring and total (input swear-word)!!

while on the topic... so if going for the Gold match vs Geth on Firebase White is overused and very broken (because it is 'easier' and you can get some credits) then is that a cheat or a bad map exploit???

good hunting:lol:

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[quote]upinya slayin wrote...

[quote]Hoz_Hun wrote...


falling through a map and reviving



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and maybe that is what happened to the Normady in the tri-coloured endings, it got sucked into a galatic blackhole and was 'revived' onto a different planet/era/dimension.:o:O:O:alien::alien::alien:

sorry i know this should be on the single-player, but i wanted to point that out.

good hunting:lol:

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vware wrote...

Quikraptor wrote...

Well, since we're on the topic, I took this footage literally 5 minutes ago. Probably still playing:

Inb4 "ITS COOP STFU". I know. This ruins the whole idea of co-op.

Needs to be banned like right now.
Also, how do you have fun that way? :P


he or she is a total FOB (fresh of the boat) :bandit:

correction: he or she is a toal FOB like Councilor Udina!!!:bandit:

Modifié par Moutoku, 06 juin 2012 - 11:33 .


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Does Bioware really care about cheating?
Someone got 20k N7 Rating in 2 min. He wasnt even in the top 30000 three days ago.

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I was in a really weird game yesterday where no one was taking damage - at least, I wasn't, and I was most certainly in the line of fire. I don't know if it's a bug or someone was doing something rather weird. Happened in two consecutive games with the same host/leader - we were kicking major butt, obviously, but I got cold feet - I didn't think the game was working right - and quit - even though we were getting easy creds if there was cheating going on I didn't want to be a part of it.
I did get insta-killed by a banshee, but I think that code works slightly differently.

-edit: oh damn... after reading this thread, I think I was in a hacked lobby. I didn't know such things were common with quick matches.

If I had known this game was so hackable, I would have taken down the name of the host. Live and learn I guess... am I going to be in trouble?

Modifié par lordhugorune, 07 juin 2012 - 02:41 .


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thx for the clarification on how you handle cheaters with the new sticky! Great to know, something is being done! Is this the reason, why there have been so many bans on the PC Leaderboard? I jumped from rank 70-ish to rank 42 in one day without having played all that much.

One question, what is "item x exploitation"? Never heard of an "item x".

Modifié par Siran, 07 juin 2012 - 07:20 .


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So you only 'might' get banned if you make 'difficulty' mods? I've been working with a friend on some difficulty mods that make enemies stronger. We both really dislike cheating so every change we make only makes enemies harder (or us weaker). It provides a better challenge and no more credits than normal. Plus it keeps me playing the game longer.
As long as we play private matches (as in, don't go screwing with unknown people who just want to play normal matches in public) it sounds like the new rules say that is okay as long as we aren't cheating credits/xp/weapons/easiness?

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Mgamerz wrote...

So you only 'might' get banned if you make 'difficulty' mods? I've been working with a friend on some difficulty mods that make enemies stronger. We both really dislike cheating so every change we make only makes enemies harder (or us weaker). It provides a better challenge and no more credits than normal. Plus it keeps me playing the game longer.
As long as we play private matches (as in, don't go screwing with unknown people who just want to play normal matches in public) it sounds like the new rules say that is okay as long as we aren't cheating credits/xp/weapons/easiness?


For this, I really suggest directly contacting a staff member before playing any games using that Modification, whether you're earning credits/xp/weapons or not. They've already said they WOULD ban people who used the Husk zombie mod, even though it didn't grant any credits upon completion, so you'd be better off safe than sorry.

I suggest contacting Thomas Abram, since he's a pretty active Staff Member on these forums in particular.

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Need help, are they cheating or not? The second one, also shooted into walls and killed enemies, but sadly dont have it recorded. And he noticed me, and disconnected after that.




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bigfutus wrote...

Need help, are they cheating or not? The second one, also shooted into walls and killed enemies, but sadly dont have it recorded. And he noticed me, and disconnected after that.




i cna't tell what he did?

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InfamousResult wrote...

Mgamerz wrote...

So you only 'might' get banned if you make 'difficulty' mods? I've been working with a friend on some difficulty mods that make enemies stronger. We both really dislike cheating so every change we make only makes enemies harder (or us weaker). It provides a better challenge and no more credits than normal. Plus it keeps me playing the game longer.
As long as we play private matches (as in, don't go screwing with unknown people who just want to play normal matches in public) it sounds like the new rules say that is okay as long as we aren't cheating credits/xp/weapons/easiness?


For this, I really suggest directly contacting a staff member before playing any games using that Modification, whether you're earning credits/xp/weapons or not. They've already said they WOULD ban people who used the Husk zombie mod, even though it didn't grant any credits upon completion, so you'd be better off safe than sorry.

I suggest contacting Thomas Abram, since he's a pretty active Staff Member on these forums in particular.


Zombie mode raises the amount of XP per stage so that when you do complete it you get an unfair amount of XP at the end. Otherwise, only about 10-20 husks would spawn at a time, and then it's not really fun, it's like "eh, walk backwards until they are all dead".
If there were modding tools this game would keep me entertained for years. Perhaps a map editor that makes you submit maps for a contest, and then the top 3 maps get put into a DLC they sell for like a buck. That way the best maps are published, end-users get good maps, and EA/Bioware makes a buck. It's the $5/$10 DLC that I don't like. But for a buck, and to help a fellow member get a good map published, I'd do that. 
This game just reeks of modding potential.

Modifié par Mgamerz, 07 juin 2012 - 11:09 .


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I'm glad Bioware is finally doing something about the cheaters. It is also good that they now have a clear policy as to what constitutes cheating and the penalties therefor. Hopefully, this would mean that I would no longer run into players with super Avengers or super Raptors able to take down 2 banshees in one second (actually happened).

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I don't get how the Tier 3 ones are handled. You tell us what they are but you don't say what you'll do . Like a 3 strike rule or a warning. I've been lucky enough to never be with a leecher.
Also, the anti-afk is easily defeated by jitter software that automatically wiggles the mouse after X seconds of inactivity. However I feel that it does a good enough job to kick idlers.

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Please clarify "Item “x” exploitation"

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Why don't they just add an anti-cheat the checks for alterations to files? Not all cheats are readily apparent and not everyone is going to report.

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Why don't they just make the server authorative? Then it just ignores hacks and cheats unless you can gain control of the server itself.

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What are the Tier Three punishments? None are listed.