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[Kasrkin]

Most shotguns DO ignore shield gate, at least partially. Due to multiple projectiles. But yeah, 2 shotting an atlas? I know that the Wraith has good damage . . . but yeesh.

[D.Shepard]

Kasrkin wrote...

Most shotguns DO ignore shield gate, at least partially. Due to multiple projectiles. But yeah, 2 shotting an atlas? I know that the Wraith has good damage . . . but yeesh.

I was so puzzled that I even started a topic about it. It turned out a very interesting discussion. General consensus is 2 shotting an atlas is considered nearly impossible with  wraith V, even with all the damage buffs he had.

[Crocodiles]

So I just played a match with a batarian, and two quarian infiltrators. I noticed that there was an invisible Geth turret, which was healing me, and using it's flamethrower. It was active for a couple of waves, until one of the quarians went down.

[Adverb]

Well, instead of waiting a month for a response on my cheat report, it was only a couple days this time. Guess their "cheat division" works pretty quickly now that its been set up. Still, kinda disappointing to see the same automated response as before.

[Friction2600]

my favorite part about most people posting in this forum is the fact that if somebody is better than you, he has to be cheating..

[thesnake777]

I did notice something strange once in a xbox game..A geth Infiltrator could empty his clip from his Sniper rifle and stay cloaked the whole time...Is there some glitch or something that makes this happen for geth infiltrators?

[DieselL]

yeah thats the glitch that doesn t let you decloak for a time, really annoying, it only happens off-host !
damage boost is off and carrying a heavy weapon lets you wait ages to cooldown after the glitch stopped...

[Evgeny FM]

Works with any infiltrator + no damage boost and u r visible to the enemies

[Master Xanthan]

I can't find the format for reporting people, can someone link me to it?

[Siran]

Master Xanthan wrote...

I can't find the format for reporting people, can someone link me to it?

Ehm, it's on page one of this very thread?

[greghorvath]

over 1100 banned in the latest wave while cheaters are the least of the MP's quality issues. Pathetic.

[Siran]

The people that ban cheaters are not the same who are responsible for patching the game - ever thought about that? Bioware is - like practically any other company - not a "one-guy-runs-all" show. There are departments and different jobs for a reason...

Still don't believe me? Just look here.

Modifié par Siran, 20 juin 2012 - 07:02 .

[greghorvath]

Siran wrote...

The people that ban cheaters are not the same who are responsible for patching the game - ever thought about that? Bioware is - like practically any other company - not a "one-guy-runs-all" show. There are departments and different jobs for a reason...

Still don't believe me? Just look here.

It is not a question of task distribution. Its a question of priorities and resource allocation. Resources should focus on removing the problems with your product first instead of punishing people for exploiting those problems. 
Don't get me wrong, I am rooting for BioWare in every aspect, but I am sorry to say they look increasingly incomptetent. Just look at the fiasco around patch 1.03 for example.

Modifié par greghorvath, 20 juin 2012 - 08:10 .

[Siran]

There is no task you can allocate "infinite" resources to, not in software development. There is always a cap. Plus, there is no way they can eliminate every exploit and cheat there is, no MP game has, every one has to deal with cheaters. Why should ME3 be any different?

I'm not saying I am pleased with the latest patch and the issues it didn't fix. But blaming the banning of cheaters that Bioware did not fix their game is just absurd.

[greghorvath]

Siran wrote...

There is no task you can allocate "infinite" resources to, not in software development. There is always a cap. Plus, there is no way they can eliminate every exploit and cheat there is, no MP game has, every one has to deal with cheaters. Why should ME3 be any different?

I agree with you but disagree at the same time. Go figure...

Cheaters should be punished. Period. Right after fixing bugs and issues known ever since launch: no fixes, no bans. 

Edit: I just had a look at your manifest... I don't like you a lot...

Modifié par greghorvath, 20 juin 2012 - 08:52 .

[Siran]

greghorvath wrote...
I agree with you but disagree at the same time. Go figure...

Cheaters should be punished. Period. Right after fixing bugs and issues known ever since launch: no fixes, no bans. 

Edit: I just had a look at your manifest... I don't like you a lot...

I think we can agree to disagree, then I'm for punishing cheaters and fixing bugs at the same time

As for you not liking me and my manifest:

[greghorvath]

Its exactly the opposite of not liking that I feel...

And it seems we do not disagree so much after all:

I'm for punishing cheaters and fixing bugs at the same time.

But both sides of the "and" need to happen, not just the first, as is the case atm.

[D.Shepard]

Friction2600 wrote...

my favorite part about most people posting in this forum is the fact that if somebody is better than you, he has to be cheating..

I never said that. Maybe before posting such accusation you should read more carefully the "incriminated behaviour", my friend.
 
I even posted a topic about the matter I talked here and general consensus was "You cann two shot kill and Atlas with the Wraith"

Who cares about score, but since I was the host I care if the other user was cheating and BW consider the host cheater too. I don't want to pay for other persons' illegal actions.
Is it more clear?

So I'll post my own version:
My favorite part about most people posting in this forum is the fact that if somebody has an opinion they don't like they accuse you of something (being a bad player if you are against a nerf; claiming you f accused a player of cheating only because he outscored you etc) No polemics intended

Modifié par D.Shepard, 20 juin 2012 - 12:39 .

[Aven Phoenix]

greghorvath wrote...

Siran wrote...

The people that ban cheaters are not the same who are responsible for patching the game - ever thought about that? Bioware is - like practically any other company - not a "one-guy-runs-all" show. There are departments and different jobs for a reason...

Still don't believe me? Just look here.

It is not a question of task distribution. Its a question of priorities and resource allocation. Resources should focus on removing the problems with your product first instead of punishing people for exploiting those problems. 
Don't get me wrong, I am rooting for BioWare in every aspect, but I am sorry to say they look increasingly incomptetent. Just look at the fiasco around patch 1.03 for example.

While anyone can and would agree that glitches should be fixed, bringing it up is a non-issue.  Simply because every one knows they should be fixed, people are always trying to fix them, and there simple fact that there will always be glitches in virtually every online multiplayer game.

The people who exploit and cheat will continue to find every little glitch they can, and when they can find no more, they will behaive in other ways harmful to other players to maximize their personal gain with as little team effort as humanly possible.  Exploiters ARE part of the problem as long as the possibility of exploits exist.  And they must be found and removed.  Dragged out of the game kicking and screaming.

People who can't think very far past the end of their nose don't understand how cheating hurts the quality of the game when you are versing A.I.
It takes away the challenge for honest players.  It takes away the repeat play value for the honest players.
And worst of all, it devaules the hard work of the honest players.
May work hard to unlock this and that and are proud of it and seek to work hard to unlock more.
Then they turn around and a bunch of stupid kids are way ahead of them doing an exploit to unlock it all.
Cheaters must be hunted down and removed.
Simple as that.

[Kamfrenchie]

Aven Phoenix wrote...

greghorvath wrote...

Siran wrote...

The people that ban cheaters are not the same who are responsible for patching the game - ever thought about that? Bioware is - like practically any other company - not a "one-guy-runs-all" show. There are departments and different jobs for a reason...

Still don't believe me? Just look here.

It is not a question of task distribution. Its a question of priorities and resource allocation. Resources should focus on removing the problems with your product first instead of punishing people for exploiting those problems. 
Don't get me wrong, I am rooting for BioWare in every aspect, but I am sorry to say they look increasingly incomptetent. Just look at the fiasco around patch 1.03 for example.

While anyone can and would agree that glitches should be fixed, bringing it up is a non-issue.  Simply because every one knows they should be fixed, people are always trying to fix them, and there simple fact that there will always be glitches in virtually every online multiplayer game.

The people who exploit and cheat will continue to find every little glitch they can, and when they can find no more, they will behaive in other ways harmful to other players to maximize their personal gain with as little team effort as humanly possible.  Exploiters ARE part of the problem as long as the possibility of exploits exist.  And they must be found and removed.  Dragged out of the game kicking and screaming.

People who can't think very far past the end of their nose don't understand how cheating hurts the quality of the game when you are versing A.I.
It takes away the challenge for honest players.  It takes away the repeat play value for the honest players.
And worst of all, it devaules the hard work of the honest players.
May work hard to unlock this and that and are proud of it and seek to work hard to unlock more.
Then they turn around and a bunch of stupid kids are way ahead of them doing an exploit to unlock it all.
Cheaters must be hunted down and removed.
Simple as that.

Wow. Do you know the cheaters personnaly to say that?

Anyway, are you saying you're proud of your random unlocks?

Cheating is a huge issue in competitive mp, simply because it makes the skill irrelevant and gives victory to the person that makes no effort.

But vs computer, it's almost the same as if you were cheating in a solo game imo. It doesn't take anything away from the player that don't cheat, and sometimes allow the player to just ignore badly done part of a game.

I honestly can't blame people for cheating for money (note, i don't support it) when the packs are so random, and there are 10 levels for each weapon and mod. It's questionnable design (maybe made to prolonge the lifespan artificially ?).

I mean seriously. You want a weapon? or more custom on your character ? Sure, just keep grinding over and over again, and you'll have it. Maybe very early, maybe very late, who knows, you're entirely dependant on the rgn.

If someone has beaten the ennemies several time in silver, but has to do it again and again to get  better stuff for gold, it's not necessarily interesting for him, since he knows he can do it. So one has to do about 9 wave before he gets to the one that brings significant money.
I don't see how that's very interesting for anyone.
I mean, I've played it for a little while, gotten a few rare weapon, but the shuriken X still seems ridiculously effective for its weight compared to a lot of other rarer weapons i have.

If the game was better designed to not force a repetitive grind on the player, less people would cheat.
or if you could get the items you want for a significant price.

Ofc, if you don't want a cheater in your game and there is one, I can somewhat understand that you'd be pissed.
They should stay together

[Adverb]

Siran wrote...

The people that ban cheaters are not the same who are responsible for patching the game - ever thought about that? Bioware is - like practically any other company - not a "one-guy-runs-all" show. There are departments and different jobs for a reason...

Still don't believe me? Just look here.

This one is right.  Bioware has set up a specific team now to deal with cheaters, and only with cheaters.  I find it a smart move.

[Dedepp86]

I had something really strange that makes me afraid. I was just playing a random bronze game and I was really bad. However at the end I somehow had every medal, like for grab (didn't do a single one), for 15 melee kills etc and I definitely DID NOT deserve them. I did not get points for the medals (was last on the scoreboard) so I really don't know what happened there. Hopefully I don't get banned if I get reported. Platform was XBOX.

[cor4lif]

i got a really good glitch one time i went down and immediatly respawned at the starter point. i was like "wtf? Sweet"

[Obsidian Gryphon]

I died while running down the ramp to LZ in FBG, silver, wave 8, trying to take cover from a Geth Prime which shot me in the back. A team mate revived and I promptly "sank" beneath the ramp and was stuck. Frustrating. I left because I could do nothing. Was playing a Asari Vanguard.  

[iLikeMudkipz]

im guessing people are using jtag consules and trainers for infite life? Or medgel/