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#176
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When you have Falcon and use Marksman skill,
They might call you a cheater :wizard:

Modifié par Devowa, 18 mars 2012 - 06:03 .


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Why does it matter? Its not like its competitive. Oh, you mean the little "pay for packs because we want to milk you for every little dime we can" tactic? If you truely cared about what the fans want, you wouldnt take advantage of us by taking away freedoms to play the way we want to trying to urge us to pay you in anyway possible.awaw

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People should play how they want with who they want. Only thing that would and did bother me playing with randoms who stay in the respawn making us do the missions while he stands there n collects credits. Im refusing to play with Randoms becuase of it!

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I would suggest a Rush mode or take down thing.
sort of 2 full fledged teams against bots.. but they attack from both sides of a castle.. the one who releases certain part first... they win.

there are so many ways to make the gaming competitive and still be fun to everyone.

just look at left 4 dead..

the other way is.. making 4 vs 4 teams.. while one team controls the human players.. the others controls the  enemy   specials a la left4dead..
wins whoever gets rescued or manages to survive longer.


one thing that I agree, the multiplayer is way too consolized and simple.. there are so many spaces that can be used for the missing stuff, like text chat and maybe a reticule where it shows your teammatess  equipment (just like you press shift in ME1 and ME2 and you see the powers, items..etc.. of yuor teammates..)

Modifié par JohnDoe, 18 mars 2012 - 07:28 .


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I don't care if people cheat - but when they're cheating starts affecting my game, yeah, that's when I take issue.

One game basically made everyone on the team have instant shield/health regen. I wouldn't care if my one teammate had it or if he had massive damage and instant reload. But if it's just for him. However, I don't want my game to be affected. I could be targeted for his cheating and possibly banned for it. (Someone had this issue - got massive amount of credits b/c of a cheater and spent some of it only to be banned).

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StalkingReaptor wrote...

Why does it matter? Its not like its competitive. Oh, you mean the little "pay for packs because we want to milk you for every little dime we can" tactic? If you truely cared about what the fans want, you wouldnt take advantage of us by taking away freedoms to play the way we want to trying to urge us to pay you in anyway possible.awaw


Even if they totally removed the 'pay for packs' just having the random unlocks being able to be abused with credits would mean cheats hurt the overall life cycle of the MP, which would give less of a reason to produce MP content or events since whats the point if people have every single item/unlock within 2 weeks via cheating for millions of credits easily?

Oh yay everyone has every unlock within 2 weeks, so you can expect the MP to last what, a few months before everyone is bored of it since it is so simple from everyone using all the ultra rare items at max level, with warp 3 ammo, rail amp 3, and module 3 all the time?  Thats if they even feel like playing without the cheats.

If you truely cared about fans or gameplay you'd be against the cheating too.  The payment thing being totally OPTIONAL means they aren't really URGING you to pay either.  Thats like going to a store and being told you can either work for an hour or pay for your items, then screaming and throwing a fit saying they are urging you to pay them money.  They aren't, you're just viewing it that way.

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lightsnow13 wrote...
I don't care if people cheat - but when they're cheating starts affecting my game, yeah, that's when I take issue.


And basically this. Don't care if someone mods the game and only plays by himself or with his friends, but if you hack in a public game anyone can join you ruin the experience for others.

The game should either verify if the files have been tampered with before letting you online, or just use a server side copy for these settings instead of the host's.

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shin-zan wrote...

lightsnow13 wrote...
I don't care if people cheat - but when they're cheating starts affecting my game, yeah, that's when I take issue.


And basically this. Don't care if someone mods the game and only plays by himself or with his friends, but if you hack in a public game anyone can join you ruin the experience for others.

The game should either verify if the files have been tampered with before letting you online, or just use a server side copy for these settings instead of the host's.


Agree +10

#184
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What about editing the coalesced.bin with casual clothes, flycam, fov, binds, weapon tweaks etc etc..... for single player obviously.

Have not played mp since I edited it, I don't wanna lose my game coz EA thinks I Haxor.

Will that get me banned?

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Soshigenkaku

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zingro wrote...

What about editing the coalesced.bin with casual clothes, flycam, fov, binds, weapon tweaks etc etc..... for single player obviously.

Have not played mp since I edited it, I don't wanna lose my game coz EA thinks I Haxor.

Will that get me banned?


From all we've read and heard they are watching MP logs and such, so SP players shouldn't get hit.

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lightsnow13 wrote...

I don't care if people cheat - but when they're cheating starts affecting my game, yeah, that's when I take issue.

One game basically made everyone on the team have instant shield/health regen. I wouldn't care if my one teammate had it or if he had massive damage and instant reload. But if it's just for him. However, I don't want my game to be affected. I could be targeted for his cheating and possibly banned for it. (Someone had this issue - got massive amount of credits b/c of a cheater and spent some of it only to be banned).


This is where the MP team investigates the supposed cheater:

Scylla Costa wrote...

However, we are being careful to ensure that the individuals flagged as cheaters are clearly and repeatedly cheating. We do not want to act against honest people.


You won't get banned because you were part of one match affected by one cheater. On the other hand your pal acted stupidly, if you end up with 1 million credits you should know that there is something wrong, don't spend them and contact CS to get it sorted.

Modifié par maxulic, 18 mars 2012 - 03:20 .


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hchadw wrote...
yes it is... but what its going to boil down to is people just wanna get the points they need quick without grinding in multiplayer


Bioware kinda Created their own Problem!

if multiplayer wasnt tied to singleplayer ... im sure 50% of people prolly wouldnt even play it. Thats another point someone needs to look at before they have to release  patch a year from now to give away points for the Galactic Readiness crap, cause no one plays the multiplayer anymore..

Short comings

No Text Chat
No Mute Options
No In-Game Buddy System
No- Anticheat detection

Needs PVP as well... bots are gonna get old!

That will solve the constant patches needed for AI... Humans Fight Very Different than bots.... im getting to the point to where even the scary enemies like Banshees are easy ... just move and shoot... move and shoot... wow how fun is that... Humans devise Tactics and plan better

Then your servers will always be populated with someone killing something!



Here's the thing muchacho. Any game with multiplayer is going to attract cheaters. Games that have upgrades for characters are going to attract them even more.

Case in point is America's Army. The game had no upgrades aside from what you could earn in training and the only real goal was to play against the AI or other players. Nothing was earned aside from rank, and people still cheated. So to say that Bioware caused this problem is... Incorrect (I used a nicer word). The only way Bioware could have avoided introducing cheating would be to not have multiplayer at all.

Me personally though, I don't care if it's a purely co-op game or not. I play the game for the challenge. To have people cheating and taking away from my fun defeats the purpose of playing for me. I'm glad that at least something is done about cheating.

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just got out of a game with a cheating idiot like honestly he was level 535 and was just running around getting kills ignoring missions he had infinite ammo and no reload so he just sniped everything with his phalanx from the middle it was one of the most boring matchs i have ever played heres a vid of the dweeb in action

www.youtube.com/watch

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So I just encountered my first bot in this game, only using charge, no movement, no shooting, standing afk for half a round if he was lucky enough for nothing to walk past/in front of him, I´m guessing naming and shaming isnt allowed here.

Modifié par Grizzy, 18 mars 2012 - 04:09 .


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Well, about cheating, I really think it's concerning cheat the N7 level and perks you can have and play ingame. Cause, maybe I am in wrong, but it's really possible that after a week after the release, there it was yet someone with 3000 N7 level? I think it's not possible to do that counting that days have 24 hours... even if you play 24 hours per day. About perks, a time I saw a 2970 level play using the cobra missiles with the same frequence I was shooting with sniper rifle... I dont think that should be possible aswell xD And yeah, bots are not hurt by cheting, but I dont see why I have to play with people that steal all kills playing unfair, it kills the fun cause this multiplayer is TACTICAL and not just another MW kill rushing game.

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I just left what I believe was a cheaters game. When I overloaded first few cannibals to death I thought something may be wrong. Realized something really IS wrong when I oneshoted Brute with my avenger, then I left.. I hope BW will get rid of these idiots soon.

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Scouten wrote...

just got out of a game with a cheating idiot like honestly he was level 535 and was just running around getting kills ignoring missions he had infinite ammo and no reload so he just sniped everything with his phalanx from the middle it was one of the most boring matchs i have ever played heres a vid of the dweeb in action

www.youtube.com/watch


He was not a host, so he is not a cheater. I don't see any problem with him having a high score, neither do I see any cheating in the gameplay you provided, you just showed him shoot. When his gun overheated LISTEN damnit, you are not deaf are you? There was a sound of him using number 8, for ammo.

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Falcon509 wrote...
Here's the thing muchacho. Any game with multiplayer is going to attract cheaters. Games that have upgrades for characters are going to attract them even more.


Bioware made it way too easy  to cheat though, they put enemy and weapon stats ino a text file anyone can edit instead of burrying it in game data or leaving it server side. Sure counterstrike has wallhacks and aimbots but you can't just edit your gun to do 1000 damage unless you run a custom server on there.

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Soshigenkaku wrote...
It's been made abundantly clear you don't need multi to do anything/everything in singleplayer, as such the tied to is merely a "hey I can do this too if I want, but it has no real bearing if I don't."  like offering someone a cake with vanilla frosting or choclate frosting, the end result is you get cake, one just has a different flavor that you decided you wanted.  The tie in does not change the fact you can ignore it completely and finish the game totally with the same endings someone who played multi gets.

Nope, all there is is one sticky full of lies.
It has been proved absolutely beaynd shadow of the doupt, that you cant get 4000+EMS without playing MP.
So no its not just "hey you can do this if you want, but you dont have to"

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My policy is, they cheat, get banned for live, don't come here crying, don't care if it is versus BOT, credits hacks that im sure it is the problem, ban them all, the "fans" will be happy, at least i will.

+1 rep.

#196
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Also like to know that my modded coalesced for fov and more fuel isn't going to get me banned for not having an updated weapon damage value or something.

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so far didn't see the cheater that use DLC charactor yet ( play everyday )

#198
IHateHaxxors

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It looks like there is already a working aimbot for the pc:

http://www.artificia...4503#post424503

Which moderator should I PM this link to?

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Zazabi

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btw best solution so far add some punkbuster ingame (not effective but atleast it has anti cheat ;p)

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Zazabi

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and yet agian Artificial*****ot mess up a good game