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Why Mass Effect 3 is not over yet


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MustacheManatee

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 The following is a detailed scene by scene observation of the controversial final twenty minuets of Mass Effect 3. If you have not played the end yet, do not read any further as there will be HEAVY SPOILERS. You have been warned. .
                                         
 *HEAVY SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!*

After finishing the game, and reading several theories about the ending, I decided to go back and look at it piece by piece, taking notes on everything I saw and heard. With the help of some great posts here on this forum, and some very observant friends, I have discovered a wealth of evidence that suggests we may not have seen the actual ending yet. The evidence also suggests that if we have seen the real ending, it's not as bad as so many think it is. This all based on my observation and conjecture, and should be taken as such. This is a long and detailed theory based on observation, and nothing more.

-Upon awakening after Harbingers beam hits, everything is out of focus and Shepards head is ringing(this is actually important as I will point out later). Everything moves in slow motion and nobody is around. The movement is similar to your dream sequences. It is my theory that the dream sequences are evidence of the ongoing battle in Shepards mind to fight off the indoctrination that was initiated by the beacon in the first MAss Effect.

-During this sequence, you walk towards the beam with a pistol that has UNLIMITED ammo. Also aiming at husks that attack is very slow and diffucult. Ever tried to aim or throw something in a stressful dream? It feels just like this! It also feels as if you are floating, and you can not move the camera down to see your feet.

- Upon entering the Citadel, Anderson contacts you, saying that he followed you to the Citadel, even though there was NO ONE AROUND. Very suspicious. Shepard mentions that it doesn't look like the Citadel, and Anderson confirms that it looks like Shepards description of the Collector base. This is also an important piece of evidence.

-There is a Keeper near the door at the end of the hall you can literally walk through. Could be a glitch, could be something more.

-The next room you enter looks very similar to the Shadow Broker base with the moving panels and electrical current. This supporrts the fact that Shepard is constructing the area he is in by using memorable places he has been before, like the collector base. This happens frequently in all dreams.

-When Shepard catches up with Anderson, they are confronted by the Illusive Man. The camera gives a disorienting zooming effect that is often used in dream sequences. There is also a strange black fuzziness, like ink, around the edges of the screen. 

-The Illusive Man and Anderson argue for Shepard's support in a way that suggests that Anderson is a representation of Shepard's humanity, and the Illusive man a representation of the part of him that is already indoctrinated.

-During this conversation, Anderson tells the Illusive man that he has been indoctrinated. My interpretation of this is that Anderson, acting as Shepard's humanity, is telling Shepard that he is being indoctrinated and to fight it!

-Regardless of dialogue choice, I was unable to save Anderson, and the Illusive man gets shot.

-After the confrontation, Shepard recieves word from Hackett that nothing is happening. Shepard goes for the control panel, but collapses. He activates nothing, and yet a platform beneath lifts him up to another place.

-Shepard finds himself in an area of the citadel with some stange Alliance markings(1M1) furthering the theory that this world is in his head..

-The ghostly child that talks to Shepard is likely Harbinger. It makes sense that Harbinger would attempt to manipulate Shepard by donning the form of the chil that has haunted his indoctrination dreams. The ringing in Shepards head at the start(something he has also complained to Vega about!) is a symptom of indoctrination.

-The child/Harbinger proceeds to logically explain the Reapers purpose, and why they feel the need to repeat the cycle. When discussing the Reapers, the child/Harbinger even says "we". All but admiting that he is a Reaper, and very likely Harbinger, as it has always been his goal to indoctrinate Shepard. The child actually speaks with three voices that I belive are a child, Male Shepard, and Female Shepard. Listen carefully with headphones.

-Shepard is now presented with three options to end the war:

1. The first option is the total destruction of all synthetic life(represented as a red renegade choice). The child/Harbinger tries to steer you away from this option by assuring you that you are part synthetic and will die(this is a lie). He also suggests that this will wipe out the Geth, making this option seem less appealing. Also there is EDI to consider. He assures Shepard that although it will destroy the Reapers, his children will simply develop more AI and the cycle will repeat. This option is represented visually by Anderson(Shepards humanity).

2. The second option is control(represented as a bue paragon choice). The child/Harbinger assures Shepard that he is different from the Illusive Man and has the ability to control them. Shepard will die, and lose everything, but the Reapers will obey him. This sounds like the completion of the indoctrination process to me, as it's the only way Shepard could "die" and still control the Reapers. This option is represented visually by the Illusive Man(the part of Shepard that is already indoctrinated).

3.The third and final option is synthesis(represented as the best option by the child/Harbinger). I believe this is Harbinger attempting to trick Shepard into releasing his unique DNA into the Reapers so they can complete the human Reaper they have been working on since Mass Effect 2. Essentially harvesting Shepard. The child/Harbinger tells Shepard that this choice represents a leap forward in evolution for organics and synthetics. The Reapers call it harvesting, the Borg call it assimilation. In effect, the Reapers feel they are doing humanity a favor. "We are your salvation through destruction" and all that. 

-Whether Shepard chooses synergy(harvesting) or control(indoctrination) I believe this MUST be Shepards choice. Harbinger knows he is beaten, so he trys to manipulate Shepard into doing what the Reapers want by appealing to his humanity. HARBINGER IS TRYING TO TRICK YOU!

-For the purpose of this theory, I am assuming that total destruction of all synthetic life is the correct choice.

-After making this choice the following cinimatic shows Shepard recovering from his limp as he is shooting! The Reapers and Mass Effect relays are then destroyed, and armies on earth celebrate. Shepards crew escapes in the Normandy, but are marooned on a tropical planet. It is unlikely that the Normandy could have picked up the squad and made a break for it. I believe this is Shepard projecting what he needs to see to feel like he made the right decision, should he have gone with one of the other two options.

-After the Normandy scene, the camera pans over rubble that is almost certainly the ruins of London, untill it reaches Shepards torso. The last image is of Commander Shepard taking a breath, in direct contridiction to what the child/Harbinger said would happen. This is the ONLY ending in which Shepard lives.

In conclusion, I believe that the final sequence of Mass Effect 3 is Harbingers final attempt to indoctrinate, or better yet, harvest Commander Shepard. I think it is likely that we will see some DLC soon(April Fools Day maybe?) that expands upon the ending. I think Shepard will wake back up in the rubble of London, enter the citadel, and destroy the Reapers like he did in his mind. 

As long as it's free DLC, it's an excellent decision that accomplishes two things:
1. It assures that the ending of Mass Effect 3 will not be leaked due to different release dates. I'm also convinced that most critics reviewed the game based on the full ending and signed confidentiality agreements. Bioware had to know there would be backlash for this ending, and I'm sure they didn't want poor critic reviews eating into their game sales. This would explain the diparity between the user reviews, and the critic reviews.

2. It gives everyone the opprotunity to save the earth together on the same day! That would be pretty amazing!
- One more note. It is possible that this theory is true, and there will be no DLC. Bioware could just expect us to put the pieces together ourselves to figure out which ending is the best. Either way, it gets around the "dream/hallucination" theory because it actually happened.

"Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real."
-Albus Dumbledore

Keep the faith Mass Effect fans! :happy:

Modifié par MustacheManatee, 14 mars 2012 - 10:55 .


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Eyeshield21

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This. What the MustacheManatee says.

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dakphillips

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To be honest, I did a speed read of most of the OP. But your conclusion, I can't possibly believe all media outlets got a different ending that Bioware/EA 'held back' so that all the hardcore fans could have a nerdgasm for a satisfying ending on the same day. There is literally no reason to change the endings because they were leaked. None.

For a narrative this large it seems downright petty for them to change the ending last minute because they wanted to surprise those persistent enough to read over a leaked script. That is a tiny minority of the ME market and it would seem like a suicidal (long term) business tactic to play this shell game with their customers and expect the same loyalty that (I think) Biowares fan base has shown over the years.

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not to mention The control/synthesis ending has Shepard's eyes turn into TIM/Saren's eyes. AKA indoctrinated eyes.

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Facinating!

/spockeyebrow


No really, genuinely.  So you're saying all this is a dream and Mass Effect is not over at all?....
SHUT UP!, naaah, you can't tease me like that, thats just not fair! - (lol)

That would be mind-blowing.

Modifié par SimonM72, 14 mars 2012 - 12:45 .


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I like these theories, at least they make me feel better about the ending and I can play out the rest of the series in my head.

Also should add that Indoctrination causes the person to see ghosts, according to the codex entry. Which could be repears trying to impersonate someone to get into someone's mind. And both "bad" choices can be represented by TIM and Saren. TIM being control (blue) and Saren being synthesis (green).

Modifié par Mordar88, 14 mars 2012 - 12:55 .


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kleindropper

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I just wanted a big gun to blow up reapers. Is that too simple?

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kleindropper wrote...

I just wanted a big gun to blow up reapers. Is that too simple?


For this day and age apparently yes! ( lmao) - If it does turn out to be an indocrination dream sequence I'll happily admit to being fooled, stand up and applaud.

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The indoctrination theory makes total sense to me. Another thing to add is how Hackett suddenly stops talking to him after he is "brought to the light" (ie full focus on the child now).

If this ends up being false ... well, it just proves how sad the real ending actually is.

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 That is a very interseting observation with the Keepers! Because when at the Citadel docking bay there is a Keeper walking to the console, If you're in his was the Keeper litearlly moves you out of the way, and of course you cant walk through them ether. As you stated in your observations this is most likely a glitch, but the oft chance it isnt..... The skys the limit.

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sHELLYEA

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You said the things we discussed brilliantly!

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squee365 wrote...

not to mention The control/synthesis ending has Shepard's eyes turn into TIM/Saren's eyes. AKA indoctrinated eyes.


Not necessarily. Remember that part when Shepard falls down some planet's orbit and is brought back from the dead with a huge amount of implants? 'Cause I do.
I'm not saying it's *the* reason, but I don't know why people are so keen on settling with the indoctrination theory when some things can be explained more easily.

But that's just me.

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MustacheManatee

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I know that Keeper! He's always pushing past me when I'm trying to listen in on that alliance soldier talking about her Cerberus brother.

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sHELLYEA

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I wouldn't say it is settling when it is clearly supported by key story elements and facts.

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agree with op, finished game early in the morning, was unable to choose, (have no idea why) , but have same feelings about choices
but i dont belive in dlc , sorry cant believe in bioware anymore (various reasons) :P

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MustacheManatee

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I really feel the ending is what we want it to be. Bioware loves leaving certain story elements to our imagination, and really, I am totally fine with that. As long as you make the correct choice at the end, it's actually a very appropriate ending.
No need to "believe" in DLC, as it's bound to incorporate the feelings of the fans. Casey Hudson has already said that they have great multiplayer, and single player DLC coming, and that fan input WOULD be taken into account. I wouldn't hold out hope for new or alternate endings, but perhaps more hints and clues as to what the ending could mean.
Everyone at Bioware seems really happy with the buzz being created by the ending. If the fans really wanted it changed, a resounding "MEH" would have been more effective. All this news and publicity is keeping ME3 in the news. This is exactly what EA and Bioware want.
Use your imagination, and your logic, and accept the ending for what it is. An artistic choice.

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the ending can be said artistic, but at same time, we are pissed as hell ... such daring move is annoying lol

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NOT. OVER.

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Well, this is ACTUALLY reasonable (though still does nothing to address the majority of plotholes), but Bioware/EA will NEVER do it again, if it's true.

They've already had significant drops in game value (price-wise), gotten a LOT of backlash, and made the used game market sore (both GameStops in my town have dozens of used copies returned).

EDIT: Also, I'll be pissed if this is true. The game is supposed to be the conclusion of the series. If there IS more after the game, then they planned on charging us for the endings the whole time.

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As I said before, this decision only makes sense if the ending DLC is free. Fans are so pissed, I wouldn't be surprised if the DLC pack also includes the "we're sorry" gifts of MP maps, and races, plus a potential Omega mission. If this is not free, none of it makes any sense.
Regardless of Bioware's intentions(preventing leaks, rushed release date by EA) I do agree that the fan base has been more vocal than they anticipated. Bioware WILL make this right. They just have to hope and pray that the damage has not already been done.
I'm fine with the ending. I can live with it if that's all there is. I seriously doubt I will have to.

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I really like this Theory and somehow hope its true, but there is just one thing which bothers me.

MustacheManatee wrote...

-After
making this choice the following cinimatic shows Shepard recovering
from his limp as he is shooting! The Reapers and Mass Effect relays are
then destroyed, and armies on earth celebrate. Shepards crew escapes in
the Normandy, but are marooned on a tropical planet. It is unlikely that
the Normandy could have picked up the squad and made a break for it. I
believe this Harbinger showing Shepard what he needs to see to feel like
he made the right decision, should he have gone with one of the other
two options.


Shepard choose the Option Harbinger didnt want him to take, but nontheless Shepard sees this "Happy Normandy Ending". Dont understand me wrong, but if I were Harbinger and you Shepard.. And you would chose the optioin i dont want you to take, then i would show you Mass Destruction, dead LI and Squadmates and.. i dont know what. Everything but a Happy Normandy Ending. Sorry my English isn really that good but i hope you understand what i mean.

Or did i get something wrong ?:blush:

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im 100% for this, it makes sense. Note that even from the beginning in ME2 when the normandy got destroyed harbinger hired the shadow broker (through the collectors) to retrieve shepards body. In arrival dlc he let shepard live after he got exposed to the reaper artifact. I also think that harbinger want to harvest shepard and make a reaper out of him, because shepard is special, very strong willed etc, or he is just so pissed of at shepard that he want him as a trophy reaper:P Harbinger always had a interest for shepard no matter.

This would make sense for bioware aswell, ive seen some of the best and smartest writing in the mass effect series including me3, i dont think they could have made this retarded ending unless it really is indoctrination, then it may be the best twist and ending ive seen. since the original ending got leaked or something like that maybe they will make this major plot twist that noone could have seen coming.

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BTW also the control and syntethis ending shepard turns into a husk like. This could be metaphoric that he gives his will to harbringer.

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I'm convinced now. Bioware will pull through, because nothing presented here can be challenged and this would make for great DLC. Whether it was a good-hearted idea to keep the ending a secret, or a devious ploy to double their income through paid DLC, their will be DLC.

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I aprove of this thread. Thank you for giving me something constructive to link to so I dont have to constantly repeat myself.