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[BlaiidDrwg]

Here is the reason I hope this theory is true:

Something I have not seen anywhere yet about the current ending (assuming not indoctrination) and why the last minute switch was so bad...

If you can stand it, go back and rewatch the starchild conversation:

paraphrase:
Sheppard you are the first organic to get here (yay me).
But it means the cycle must now end.

um.. Why? if the reapers win out.. no reason cycle can't continue just because Shepard got there.

The starchild brought Sheppard up and asks him to choose.

um.. Why?
Let him die down below and then no organic ever gets to the final room.

Wait a minute.. why does the final room have the three crucible choice thingies in place? Why would the citadel builders put that there. Speaking of which, why is there a convenient port for the crucible? And why oh why are there areas for organics to interface with the control center and final room at all? Did the guardian want someone to come along and end the cycle? If so.. why? Did the Guardian's kind design the crucible to stop their cycle.. if so.. Why?

Clearly, not a well thought out ending as is.

So.. either this is the worst Deus Ex Machina (not to be confused with game Deus Ex) ending that still resides in my memory or there is something else going on.

[MustacheManatee]

It really is the best find I've seen.

[BlaiidDrwg]

Here is the reason I hope this theory is true:

Something I have not seen anywhere yet about the current ending (assuming not indoctrination) and why the last minute switch was so bad...

If you can stand it, go back and rewatch the starchild conversation:

paraphrase:
Sheppard you are the first organic to get here (yay me).
But it means the cycle must now end.

um.. Why? if the reapers win out.. no reason cycle can't continue just because Shepard got there.

The starchild brought Sheppard up and asks him to choose.

um.. Why?
Let him die down below and then no organic ever gets to the final room.

Wait a minute.. why does the final room have the three crucible choice thingies in place? Why would the citadel builders put that there. Speaking of which, why is there a convenient port for the crucible? And why oh why are there areas for organics to interface with the control center and final room at all? Did the guardian want someone to come along and end the cycle? If so.. why? Did the Guardian's kind design the crucible to stop their cycle.. if so.. Why?

Clearly, not a well thought out ending as is.

So.. either this is the worst deus ex machina (not to be confused with game Deus Ex) ending that still resides in my memory or there is something else going on.

[BlaiidDrwg]

oops sorry bout that

[Noatz]

I wonder if this counts as the denial or bargaining stage of grief?

Sorry, I do actually think its a good theory. But I believe extreme skepticism is the only heatlhy option here; hope can so easily turn poisonous if crushed.

[Stu_Shepard]

Very true re the Citadel being an amalgamation of previous locations he'd seen. There's so much evidence pointing towards this theory that I'd be amazed if Bioware don't release an additional ending.

With the media exposure they're getting at the moment they'd be silly not to capitalise soon so hopefull we'll see it shortly!!

[MustacheManatee]

@Noatz
I believe I may still be in the bargaining stage. .
Time will tell.

[Sledge454]

Now here's a crazy question: when did the hallucination begin? During the Pickett's charge to the transporter beam or right at the beginning when the Reaper fired at the councilroom?

Modifié par Sledge454, 14 mars 2012 - 11:31 .

[SirKillsalot]

I'm now convinced there is something else going on, I'm just not so sure it will be quite as great as we all hope. Won't be hard to improve on what we have now though.

Also, I would personally say that Shepard had been suffering from some form of mild indoctrination since Arrival at the latest and when harbingers beam hit him it took things to a new level. This is where the real indoctrination began.

Modifié par SirKillsalot, 14 mars 2012 - 11:34 .

[TarielMaeda]

 I'm glad this thread is alive. I posted pretty much the same thing OP did but it got locked for "same stuff, don't bother".

Or: Crazy Idea.

Maybe the whole GAME was a dream? What if Shepard being knocked out at the very beginning was the start of it all and then the secret "shep wakes up amongst ruins" secret ending is where the REAL game begins?



Nah......That'd be just silly.

[Risselda]

Well written, logical.

Agreed.

[ShepnTali]

Gamespot said the ending was fixed but it's a great journey. So they didn't have any extension of the game. Unless the extension would be fixed, which I doubt.

[ticklefist]

Skypezee wrote...

http://www.thevine.com.au/life/tech/mass-effect-3-and-the-ending-debacle20120314.aspx

OK. Time to buckle down and trudge through this second play through. Time to melt some Reaper/EDI face. I have rubble to wake up in, dammit.

[ztonkin]

Damn, when you put it like that...

I heard about a rumor DLC called "The Truth," and this plays into that pretty well. Your theory was very well constructed and I can say that it has me thinking of the endings completely differently.

If they were all a big red herring for something greater, then BioWare has committed the biggest mindf**k and has laid the groundwork for potentially the greatest ending to anything ever.

Thank you for the illuminating read. I really hope everything you say is...The Truth.

[Skypezee]

ticklefist wrote...

Skypezee wrote...

http://www.thevine.c...le20120314.aspx

OK. Time to buckle down and trudge through this second play through. Time to melt some Reaper/EDI face. I have rubble to wake up in, dammit.

I think I'm becoming comfortable enough to pick up ME3 again. Because add on to the thread and the tweets, I also thought that those dreams equences that Shepard has throughout the game was more than just a dream about guilt (as in the fact that Shepard is hearing the voices of squad mates who have died along with seeing the kid. I always thought it represented Shepard's guilt in not being able to save them).

[sHELLYEA]

From what Mustache and I talked about it was after the beam hit everyone...everything after that is open to dream/Indoctrination all the way to the credits...what we then believe to be real is his the breath you see as his chest pushes the rubble away.

[Mersey]

Although, if there really is more to it...and more ending related DLC on it's way, imagine the rage and backlash from all those gamers who finished the game and then sold it...or maybe even returned it.

Wonder if Bioware has thought of those ppl. Playing with fire here.

But god I really hope Bioware is trolling us like a boss on this one.

[PorcelynDoll]

One thing I noticed is that when you complete the game after the credits roll it puts you back on the Normandy before you attack Cerberus HQ and tells you that you can now play DLC.

[Thatguyky]

I can easily get on board with this theory. It really seems to add up and make sense. Now that I've read this I hope something along this line was Bioware's intention... sort of.

Simply put, I'd rather have this ending/theory than having the ones we have now, regardless of the DLC being free or not.

[dannii2]

Could the actual endings are already there, somewhere. Hidden in plain sight, waiting to be activated. Not waiting for in game actions, just BW/EA to 'turn them on' as it were through Origin maybe? Not sure if the consoles use the same thing as the PCs?

If any publicity is good publicity then ME3 has probably just performed the biggest publicity stunt in gaming history. Facebook groups, Twitter, heck even charity donations creeping up to what $40K now - all because of ME3.

I like this idea, but then I'm still in shock over the endings so put it down to insane ramblings if you like.

I'll keep 'Holding the Line'

[ticklefist]

Skypezee wrote...

ticklefist wrote...

Skypezee wrote...

http://www.thevine.c...le20120314.aspx

OK. Time to buckle down and trudge through this second play through. Time to melt some Reaper/EDI face. I have rubble to wake up in, dammit.

I think I'm becoming comfortable enough to pick up ME3 again. Because add on to the thread and the tweets, I also thought that those dreams equences that Shepard has throughout the game was more than just a dream about guilt (as in the fact that Shepard is hearing the voices of squad mates who have died along with seeing the kid. I always thought it represented Shepard's guilt in not being able to save them).

I won't lie, I got roped in. I was like "oh, he's haunted by failure, how oh so very motivating *puke*"

[BlackCat]

This would be genius

[Linus108]

No way the real ending wouldn't have leaked out if this is true. Even if people signed a confidentiality agreement, it would get out somehow. That part I don't agree with (the reviewers playing the full game).

That said, nice write up. And it would be awesome if true.

[Skypezee]

ticklefist wrote...

Skypezee wrote...

ticklefist wrote...

Skypezee wrote...

http://www.thevine.c...le20120314.aspx

OK. Time to buckle down and trudge through this second play through. Time to melt some Reaper/EDI face. I have rubble to wake up in, dammit.

I think I'm becoming comfortable enough to pick up ME3 again. Because add on to the thread and the tweets, I also thought that those dreams equences that Shepard has throughout the game was more than just a dream about guilt (as in the fact that Shepard is hearing the voices of squad mates who have died along with seeing the kid. I always thought it represented Shepard's guilt in not being able to save them).

I won't lie, I got roped in. I was like "oh, he's haunted by failure, how oh so very motivating *puke*"

Plus I'm rather curious as to why those ghostly figures where in those dreams along with the kid always getting engulfed by fire at the end of the dream.
Again, I thought it was a dream about Shepard feeling guilty or being incredibly stressed.... but thinking back on it, there has to be something much more to it.

And I won't lie, but the thought of this being all true along with the possibility of us getting punk'd actually makes me smile and laugh. If it turns out that what we saw as the endings aren't really the endings and will mean something completely different based on what you chose, then I will applaud BioWare because that is probably the most brilliant thing I have ever heard in my entire life.

[ticklefist]

I think it's very likely we'll see a new ending now based off indoctrination theories. I just don't know if I'll ever believe it was teh plan all along or just an easy way back in that shifts the blame from themselves to "faithless" fans.

Some of the bitter tweets that came out shortly after release certainly didn't seem like there was more than meets the eye. They just seemed angry and scornful. Mac Walters in particular.

Modifié par ticklefist, 15 mars 2012 - 12:05 .