i just finished reading asunder, and i am suspecting DA3 will take place in orlais.
the war that anders spaked in da2 and begins in asunder could be a big part of the third game.
we also have to deal with the ongoing darkspawn threat, and unless someone can get to the black city and fix what happened there way back when, thedas is ultimately doomed.
morrigan's baby could also come back to haunt us if we chose that path in origins.
flemmeth as yet hasnt revealed what her ultimate plans are.
i get the feeling that the tevinter empire could become an eventual problem, and we may have to overthrow the magistrates.
i dont have any of the dlc yet for da2, as im waiting for the ultimate edition to get released like they did with origins, but is there anything in there that could carry over into the 3rd game?
what theories do you have?
what do you think we can expect in dragon age 3
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 05:11
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I'd like to see Rivain or Qunari territory. If they are looking at Skyrim as an example, we could get a wider ranger of terrain then previous or more freedom to roam. There is so many possibilities. The Golden City, another Dwarven city, an ancient elven city, Dragon culture, Barbarian culture. Such a wealth to draw on it's exciting to think of all the possibilities. I'd personally like to see more depth in the magic lore / fade etc. The lack of enemy types, especially magical was one of the biggest flaws of DA2, so seeing a wider range of creatures and unique strategies needed to take them would be fun. I don't need to play as Hawke or the Origins Hero.. very much looking forward to the game and discovering the world.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 07:08
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More good characters and something ridiculously Orlesian...
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 07:04
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i know lots of people complained about da2, but for me, im just excited to be able to goto new regions of thedas.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 04:20
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soapstone wrote...
i just finished reading asunder, and i am suspecting DA3 will take place in orlais.
I agree and I like it everybody seems to make safe choices like vikings or something and I don't thinks it adds much to fantasy in videogames
we also have to deal with the ongoing darkspawn threat, and unless someone can get to the black city and fix what happened there way back when, thedas is ultimately doomed.
I don't know I think they made a good decision to focus on relationships of power. Fighting blight after blight kind of diminshes them.
flemmeth as yet hasnt revealed what her ultimate plans are.
I don't know if she has a plan that we would get she an immortal witch after all I think she is more into setting paths into motion and watching them for her amusement.
i get the feeling that the tevinter empire could become an eventual problem, and we may have to overthrow the magistrates.
I imagine the mages would have to win enough for the tevinter empire to think its worth it to enter the fray. Or the Seekers might force them to action it would be interesting because other than fenris's master and his viewpoint I don't have a great ideal of how the Tevinter act.
what theories do you have?
Honestly I have no ideal. I imagine Lambert or another seeker is probably going to be one of the prime antogists which stinks because I worry about the possibility of killing Cassandra. It wouldn't shock me to see Cullen take a larger role in the story because they have kept him around for two games already.
I think the DLC is more enlightening about how they will present the story and banter more than the actual events.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:10
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A better polished story in a not-rushed product. That would be great.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 03:22
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well looking at biowares creativity this days i think we will have a red button, a green button and a blue button that we can use to finish the story.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 04:33
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Stakis wrote...
well looking at biowares creativity this days i think we will have a red button, a green button and a blue button that we can use to finish the story.
Sounds like a Console game system with the buttons.. You on PC?
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 11:22
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As I recall, by the end of DA2 there are 3 major plot points:
1) The mysterious Grey Warden business that is hinted at in DA2
2) Morrigan's plan versus Flemeth's plot for the Stay Puft Marshmallow Baby (I take liberty assuming they are at odds)
3) The Mage vs Templar war.
Minor plot points include Orlesian-Fereldan tensions, the Tevinter-Qunari war, and that's all I can think of right now.
With the Divine located in Val Royeux and the Magisters headquartered in Tevinter, those are likely your two prime locations. Edit: With the possible 3rd location in Par Vollen/Sehereon.
If the writers do this thing right and wrap it up, it would stand to reason that the player's first major choice will be trusting Morrigan or trusting Flemeth, then the second major choice will be how to deal with the mage or templar threat with one side being somehow influenced by Jr. Staypuft.
That's my best guess and it's obviously a very general one.
But perhaps it will get a discussion on the topic beyond saying, "I expect the game to be lousy."
1) The mysterious Grey Warden business that is hinted at in DA2
2) Morrigan's plan versus Flemeth's plot for the Stay Puft Marshmallow Baby (I take liberty assuming they are at odds)
3) The Mage vs Templar war.
Minor plot points include Orlesian-Fereldan tensions, the Tevinter-Qunari war, and that's all I can think of right now.
With the Divine located in Val Royeux and the Magisters headquartered in Tevinter, those are likely your two prime locations. Edit: With the possible 3rd location in Par Vollen/Sehereon.
If the writers do this thing right and wrap it up, it would stand to reason that the player's first major choice will be trusting Morrigan or trusting Flemeth, then the second major choice will be how to deal with the mage or templar threat with one side being somehow influenced by Jr. Staypuft.
That's my best guess and it's obviously a very general one.
But perhaps it will get a discussion on the topic beyond saying, "I expect the game to be lousy."
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 11:22
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I just don't understand why every wants to see Morrigan's child. Sure, s/he'd be interesting, but the child is only ten years old at this point, plus, we have no idea where the child is or Morrigan for that matter.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 11:26
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Jr. Staypuft is an unresolved plot point that was made clear was important to the DA world. Therefore it's a safe prediction he's going to be a major player.
Now "want" is totally different from "predict". I rarely state what I want in an unreleased story.
Now "want" is totally different from "predict". I rarely state what I want in an unreleased story.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 11:27
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soapstone wrote...
i just finished reading asunder, and i am suspecting DA3 will take place in orlais.
the war that anders spaked in da2 and begins in asunder could be a big part of the third game.
we also have to deal with the ongoing darkspawn threat, and unless someone can get to the black city and fix what happened there way back when, thedas is ultimately doomed.
morrigan's baby could also come back to haunt us if we chose that path in origins.
flemmeth as yet hasnt revealed what her ultimate plans are.
i get the feeling that the tevinter empire could become an eventual problem, and we may have to overthrow the magistrates.
i dont have any of the dlc yet for da2, as im waiting for the ultimate edition to get released like they did with origins, but is there anything in there that could carry over into the 3rd game?
what theories do you have?
I just got Asunder in the mail. Excited.
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Posté 16 mars 2012 - 01:46
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It seems to me that in DA lore there are a lot of things that are left intentionally ambiguous. For example I'd be very suprised if we are ever told what Flemeth truly is, what happened with Morrigan's child, what the real story with the Golden City is, or what the Architect is, etc. I'm guessing these things may get a passing mention in DA3, but i'd be suprised to see any of them as a major plot point or be definitively resolved.
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Posté 16 mars 2012 - 06:00
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something far more epic than 2.. origins felt like it was this awesome legend of the grey warden and then you got to "ride out into the sunset" (really just go through a portal) but it was awesome. you journeyed to all these different places there was banter you killed some darkpawn, romance, the thickening of the plot. It was great really.
two felt and looked like crap and im not just saying that ive played through it countless times trying to get a damn save file where zevran is dead in act three (because i kiiled him)
I think they should utilize some sort of back and forth between the warden in one location doing one quest and hawke in another location doing a seprate thing and slowly there two different main quests come together in a climax final chapter. or they could do whatever.
two felt and looked like crap and im not just saying that ive played through it countless times trying to get a damn save file where zevran is dead in act three (because i kiiled him)
I think they should utilize some sort of back and forth between the warden in one location doing one quest and hawke in another location doing a seprate thing and slowly there two different main quests come together in a climax final chapter. or they could do whatever.
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Posté 16 mars 2012 - 06:57
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Judging from ME3, a rather depressing story and an anti-climatic ending.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:21
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Oh, please let it take place in Orlais. Those accents, so outrageous... it will be glorious. If Bioware ends up doing everything technically wrong, it'll probably just end up being so campy and ridiculous (because, well, Orlais) that it'll be too fun not to play, and if it ends up being the serious kind of good, then it'll be good. I see no way this can fail.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 03:31
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Then we can kill corrupt Chevalier's! And pompous arrogant nobles! Maybe even members of the Circle or the Chantry (depending on which side of the fence you sit on regarding the war)
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 11:18
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What do I think we can expect?
Locations: Orlais and Tevinter, maybe a few places already visited in the first two DA but only under condition of single quests (although these old places might be accessed in a larger quest with many small portions). We must assume the Blasted Hills will be a region unless all that's handled in the comic book. We can think that maybe the Anderfels in portion will be included but that might not be the case: even if a Blight is going on there, I'm to understand that a capable person is handling that issue. We might have one of those fights that cut-scene and have us running for our lives from darkspawn only to be saved by someone we might recognize as a Gray Warden of Ferelden. Then again, maybe not. He might still be somewhere beyond an eluvian.
NPC: No doubt Shale (if Shale survived, if Shale went to Tevinter), Leliana, Wynne will probably be dead. Other Orlesian or Tevinter oriented characters from DA 1 & 2 will probably be at least rumours, We might see the Sten portrayed in DAO or some other Sten. We might have a few close experiences with Qunari and pet canaries. Also, I think we can expect either Flemeth or another image of Flemeth to come. Finally, we will probably meet that insipid Rhys and Adrian and Evangeline. Considering that espionage will be a great concern there might be a few spies. I've already mentioned several but we might also see a newly recruited Isabella -- her actions seemed more political than a pirate is wont to enact; she seemed more like a privateer. And in what language is scribed her writ of marque?
Monsters: No doubt there will be dragons. No doubt there will be demons, alot of demons and hopefully some demons that aren't just the Hunger, Rage, Desire, and Pride demons -- Tevinter classsified thousands. There will be mages and rogues aplenty and possessed versions and abominations of these. Also chevaliers. Many presumptuous chevaliers. Of course, Bioware's not great at writing dialogue for "delightful" rich characters (they're more likely to *call* a character delightful). My guess is that witty and considerate conversation isn't their high point. So we will hear of delightful, wise, and clever chevaliers but never actually have the fortune of meeting any.
Events: I hazard a guess there might be an elven rebellion in Tevinter and the elves might try to join with the Blasted Hills in their rebellion (of course) or try to escape to Qun territory. I hazard a guess that the Old God of Mystery is already active but undiscovered by darkspawn; after all how many darkspawn detectives do we see -- especially Durulz Darkspawn Detectives? And the best way to avoid the Darkspawn is to keep moving. Especially when one is fond of pretending to be an old woman; but that's a silly hypothesis altogether. In any case, elven rebellion, Tevinters supporting foreign Templars and trying to cause friction between Orlais and Ferelden. Qunari trying to slowly leash Ferelden and Orlais without causing the two to ally with others out of apprehension from a conspiracy of Qunari spies. There might be a Blight in the Anderfels too (given some rare information possibly accessed in DAA).
Magical Items: Expect a boatload no doubt. That is, if Bioware feels like thinking up loads of magical items. Tevinter is a hotbed of wizardly activity. Also, we might expect a few really hot bardic items. Then again, what do you get a bard? Beyond increasing cunning from wearing an item and limiting some objects to bardic use, I'm not sure they can strengthen bardic song; it would depend on how they coded it. If they hadn't thought of it before, it's likely that it's difficult to do with their present hard coded game structure. So maybe just items specifically for use by bards and rogues is what we should expect. Also, in Orlais we will likely find knight stuff, really cool knight weapons and armor. Sadly, no lances nor spears of any sort. Unless they somehow code spear-use into the game, there will be none. This is a shame, actually.
Locations: Orlais and Tevinter, maybe a few places already visited in the first two DA but only under condition of single quests (although these old places might be accessed in a larger quest with many small portions). We must assume the Blasted Hills will be a region unless all that's handled in the comic book. We can think that maybe the Anderfels in portion will be included but that might not be the case: even if a Blight is going on there, I'm to understand that a capable person is handling that issue. We might have one of those fights that cut-scene and have us running for our lives from darkspawn only to be saved by someone we might recognize as a Gray Warden of Ferelden. Then again, maybe not. He might still be somewhere beyond an eluvian.
NPC: No doubt Shale (if Shale survived, if Shale went to Tevinter), Leliana, Wynne will probably be dead. Other Orlesian or Tevinter oriented characters from DA 1 & 2 will probably be at least rumours, We might see the Sten portrayed in DAO or some other Sten. We might have a few close experiences with Qunari and pet canaries. Also, I think we can expect either Flemeth or another image of Flemeth to come. Finally, we will probably meet that insipid Rhys and Adrian and Evangeline. Considering that espionage will be a great concern there might be a few spies. I've already mentioned several but we might also see a newly recruited Isabella -- her actions seemed more political than a pirate is wont to enact; she seemed more like a privateer. And in what language is scribed her writ of marque?
Monsters: No doubt there will be dragons. No doubt there will be demons, alot of demons and hopefully some demons that aren't just the Hunger, Rage, Desire, and Pride demons -- Tevinter classsified thousands. There will be mages and rogues aplenty and possessed versions and abominations of these. Also chevaliers. Many presumptuous chevaliers. Of course, Bioware's not great at writing dialogue for "delightful" rich characters (they're more likely to *call* a character delightful). My guess is that witty and considerate conversation isn't their high point. So we will hear of delightful, wise, and clever chevaliers but never actually have the fortune of meeting any.
Events: I hazard a guess there might be an elven rebellion in Tevinter and the elves might try to join with the Blasted Hills in their rebellion (of course) or try to escape to Qun territory. I hazard a guess that the Old God of Mystery is already active but undiscovered by darkspawn; after all how many darkspawn detectives do we see -- especially Durulz Darkspawn Detectives? And the best way to avoid the Darkspawn is to keep moving. Especially when one is fond of pretending to be an old woman; but that's a silly hypothesis altogether. In any case, elven rebellion, Tevinters supporting foreign Templars and trying to cause friction between Orlais and Ferelden. Qunari trying to slowly leash Ferelden and Orlais without causing the two to ally with others out of apprehension from a conspiracy of Qunari spies. There might be a Blight in the Anderfels too (given some rare information possibly accessed in DAA).
Magical Items: Expect a boatload no doubt. That is, if Bioware feels like thinking up loads of magical items. Tevinter is a hotbed of wizardly activity. Also, we might expect a few really hot bardic items. Then again, what do you get a bard? Beyond increasing cunning from wearing an item and limiting some objects to bardic use, I'm not sure they can strengthen bardic song; it would depend on how they coded it. If they hadn't thought of it before, it's likely that it's difficult to do with their present hard coded game structure. So maybe just items specifically for use by bards and rogues is what we should expect. Also, in Orlais we will likely find knight stuff, really cool knight weapons and armor. Sadly, no lances nor spears of any sort. Unless they somehow code spear-use into the game, there will be none. This is a shame, actually.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 11:36
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I think that we will see Rhys and Evangeline leading the mage rebellions because if memory serves me well Rhys became the leader of the mages who wanted to be free from the templar with Evangeline at his side. I am pretty sure Colin will be in Dragon age 3.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:26
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I predict DA3 will return to the Grey Warden's story. During the midst of a final apocalyptic battle against the darkspawn, the Warden is suddenly transported to the heart of the Black City. There, the Warden finds the Maker, and 3 lyrium veins. The Maker (who appears as the little boy from Lothering), tells you that he got tired of the races always killing each other, so he created the darkspawn to kill all the other races to stop the races from killing each other. Dialogue choices force you to play along rather than question the Maker's ridiculous non-logic. Then he tells you you have 3 choices. If you go to the lavender lyrium vein and use it, you will be come a new archdemon and can order the darkspawn to retreat. Morrigan appears and recommends this for the power to be gained. If you go to the yellow lyrium vein and use it, darkspawn, humans, elves, dwarves and Qunari all become one race. The Architect appears and recommends this as the best chance for peace. If you go to the pink lyirum vein, the darkspawn will all be destroyed. Of course, due to the Joining, you and any other remaining Wardens will die (oddly, this will be the only ending where it is possible you might actually survive). Duncan appear and tells you to choose this as your duty as a Warden. Regardless of which you choose, you only get to see cosmetic variations on the ending cutscene, don't find out anything about what happens to all the people and decisions that have led you there, and the Deep Roads all collapse.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:56
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soapstone wrote...
i just finished reading asunder, and i am suspecting DA3 will take place in orlais.
the war that anders spaked in da2 and begins in asunder could be a big part of the third game.
we also have to deal with the ongoing darkspawn threat, and unless someone can get to the black city and fix what happened there way back when, thedas is ultimately doomed.
morrigan's baby could also come back to haunt us if we chose that path in origins.
flemmeth as yet hasnt revealed what her ultimate plans are.
i get the feeling that the tevinter empire could become an eventual problem, and we may have to overthrow the magistrates.
i dont have any of the dlc yet for da2, as im waiting for the ultimate edition to get released like they did with origins, but is there anything in there that could carry over into the 3rd game?
what theories do you have?
Oh, I have lots of theories. Most of them involve cheese wheels.
But in relation to what you posted, here are my thoughts:
- Yes, it's likely that DA3 will offer Orlais as a main quest area. If memory serves, there has been talk that players will have a large map to work with, so I'd say there will be a major plot element to the land of stinky cheeses. So too, this will be a nice way for the DA3 protagonist to run into Sandal.
- I'm sure the mage-templar war and all the ramifications therein will be the unsteady political and social ground that players will tread upon.
- I don't know that anyone could go into Rotten Twinkie City to "fix" it. I think the damage that it could unleash has already been done. @OP - There's a small bit of dialogue in Legacy that helps with this, but there is the assumption that the invasion into it, or the return from it is what brought on the taint. The magisters may have been corrupted by what was already in the city or from the experience of acquiring access to it. I think some secret to curbing the darkspawn threat may lie in better understanding the nature of the city and what was done to get into it - if they used Eluvians, if there was a certain type of magic, if locations were key, etc. And maybe if we stumble upon other snoozing magisters, we might gain some more clues. I don't know that revisiting the city though will accomplish anything. Maybe. It could be that a large lyrium and cork-stopper is needed at some figurative vortex of vile swirly things.
- The OGB may not appear, but I think we'll see something of Morrigan - whether in person, or the byproduct of something she did/is doing.
- Flemeth may never reveal her plans - old hags are pesky like that. But we may be able to narrow down some more speculation as to what they are. Though, she speaks in riddles and portents, and ever with that smirk. A grain of salt is needed.
- I think at some point we'll get to Tevinter, but I don't think it will be a major area of concern in DA3. We might be building up to that though.
But the speculation of the Warden and the Maker and 3 different colored veins...well...imo, that's not what's in store for DA3. I think DA3 will be another chapter, but not any sort of endgame. And while not every journey comes to the best end, and maybe not the end that we (as participants and audience) might like, it's the journey itself that is important. It's what we learn during it, and who we become.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:50
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After reading Asunder, I am really excited to see where they take the Dragon Age universe next. I can deal with a voiced protagonist, but it would be nice to be able to customize the PC as much as we were able to in Origins.
It would be very interesting to see how the Tevinter mages view the revolution in the rest of Thedas, and what it also might mean to Qunari mages. Oh, this game has so much potential, so long as they stick to varied endings and player'c choice *glares at the ME3 endings*
It would be very interesting to see how the Tevinter mages view the revolution in the rest of Thedas, and what it also might mean to Qunari mages. Oh, this game has so much potential, so long as they stick to varied endings and player'c choice *glares at the ME3 endings*
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NovinhaShepard wrote...
After reading Asunder, I am really excited to see where they take the Dragon Age universe next. I can deal with a voiced protagonist, but it would be nice to be able to customize the PC as much as we were able to in Origins.
It would be very interesting to see how the Tevinter mages view the revolution in the rest of Thedas, and what it also might mean to Qunari mages. Oh, this game has so much potential, so long as they stick to varied endings and player'c choice *glares at the ME3 endings*
Agree I am very interested in knowing if the tevinter mages sees ferelden and the free marches as" ready for the taking" now that a war is out and some of the templars have left the chantry weak, will say mages will try to capture back some of this places or are they going to stay back and keep a sharp eye for a Qunari pending attack..
Would a ferelden/orlasian/Free marcher mage sees tevinter as a line hope after 900 years of having templars deciding their fate or as a threat of being used as a slave to a tevinter magister?
Are they ready to sacrifie themself to see tevinter take power and everything that comes with it or would they fight to be free of templars/tevinter and qunaries?
As always me think I went a bit too far:lol:
