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[fr1ggy]

Hi, I have an issue.  I have absolutely horrible performance, and I don't really know why.

I have:

ATi Radeon 4850 HD (most recent drivers)
AMD 64 X2 4600+
2 GB DDR2 800 RAM
Windows 7 (32 bit)

I started out running it in 1680x1050 on High detail and texture quality.  No AA, no vsync.  Its choppy like an episode of Iron Chef.  Doesn't matter what I'm doing.  Running, fighting, watching a dialog cutscene, watching the into video (the blood dragon flying through)... its all choppy.  I haven't FRAPS'd it or anything, but I'd venture <20 fps at all times.

I'm more than willing to accept that I have an older computer, but I simply haven't had any issues with any games.  I pretty much always run at 1680x1050.  I dropped it down to 1440x900 (i think... 16:10 ratio), and its the same.  No matter what I do, it is choppy.

Borderlands, WoW, Fallout 3, every single game I've played recently has been fine at 1680x1050 and high/very high detail except this one.

The fact that it is SO choppy leads me to believe something else is wrong.  Any ideas?

Modifié par fr1ggy, 28 novembre 2009 - 03:44 .

[jableskage]

bottleneck there me boy... oh by the way that is not a solution.

[fr1ggy]

Draetor wrote...

I noticed you have an AMD X2 dual-core CPU. You should be using AMD's dual-core optimizer, which might alleviate this problem, or at least eliminate it as a potential problem. Go to AMD's website and look for the X2 dual-core optimizer. I'm too lazy to get an exact link

Thanks, I'll try it out.

[jableskage]

just google "AMD dual optimizer" and you will find it.

[roybm]

i think i would have to agree with jableskage.  You are bottle necking your cpu.
Most likely the only good fix would be to upgrade to a quadcore or a mor powerful am3 cpu.  Like the phenom 2 550 if you want to stick with dual core.

Here is my setup and i know i am bottle necking my cpu. i get an average framrate of about 20-30 on lowest settings.

AMD Athlon FX-60 dual core 2.6ghz (socket 939)
2 EVGA 9800 GT SC in sli
3gigs OCZ 3200 ddr400 ram
Windows 7 x64


You also mentioned them other games run fine.
keep in mind.... ALL games are develpoed differently and it really does not matter if its new or old.  It all depends on the engine they made the game with to run more smoothly on lower end systems.

[jableskage]

roybm wrote...

i think i would have to agree with jableskage.  You are bottle necking your cpu.
Most likely the only good fix would be to upgrade to a quadcore or a mor powerful am3 cpu.  Like the phenom 2 550 if you want to stick with dual core.

Here is my setup and i know i am bottle necking my cpu. i get an average framrate of about 20-30 on lowest settings.

AMD Athlon FX-60 dual core 2.6ghz (socket 939)
2 EVGA 9800 GT SC in sli
3gigs OCZ 3200 ddr400 ram
Windows 7 x64


You also mentioned them other games run fine.
keep in mind.... ALL games are develpoed differently and it really does not matter if its new or old.  It all depends on the engine they made the game with to run more smoothly on lower end systems.

very true dude ^^

[fr1ggy]

roybm wrote...

i think i would have to agree with jableskage.  You are bottle necking your cpu.
Most likely the only good fix would be to upgrade to a quadcore or a mor powerful am3 cpu.  Like the phenom 2 550 if you want to stick with dual core.

Here is my setup and i know i am bottle necking my cpu. i get an average framrate of about 20-30 on lowest settings.

AMD Athlon FX-60 dual core 2.6ghz (socket 939)
2 EVGA 9800 GT SC in sli
3gigs OCZ 3200 ddr400 ram
Windows 7 x64


You also mentioned them other games run fine.
keep in mind.... ALL games are develpoed differently and it really does not matter if its new or old.  It all depends on the engine they made the game with to run more smoothly on lower end systems.

I'm aware, I just find it odd that DA:O appears to be so horribly optimized.

Ah well, a bottleneck is a bottleneck.  Guess I'll make due with the stuttering framerate for now.

[Matthew Young CT]

That CPU is old, why is DA automatically badly optimized if it cries at the sight of it?

[jableskage]

^^ true rpg games are heavily cpu dependent so your cpu seems to be your problem.

[andrex198]

ya im running a laptop with a intel core 2 duo t5750

3 gigs of ram

radeon HD2600

vista x32

and im running mine with all the graphics on high and im having no problems at all im running the resolution on 1400x900

[jableskage]

andrex198 wrote...

ya im running a laptop with a intel core 2 duo t5750
3 gigs of ram
radeon HD2600
vista x32
and im running mine with all the graphics on high and im having no problems at all im running the resolution on 1400x900

i think you are full of it. no way you could run on max at that res with no FPS hit.

[andrex198]

im running the graphics detail on high and the texture detail on high not very high

[stubbieAussie]

jableskage wrote...

i think you are full of it. no way you could run on max at that res with no FPS hit.

andrex198 said that they could run it on high graphics.
There is no need to rubbish them. <_<
If you did not believe them then perhaps you could have just said you find it hard to accept such a statement with all your computer knowledge.

You may well be correct in saying that they would be unable to run the game with no FPS hit. 

But if the fps hit is not noticable to the player then it doesnt matter a rats ars....

Modifié par stubbieAussie, 28 novembre 2009 - 06:50 .

[andrex198]

very nice reasonong i like ur thought stubbie aussie

[The_Hessian23]

andrex198 wrote...

ya im running a laptop with a intel core 2 duo t5750
3 gigs of ram
radeon HD2600
vista x32
and im running mine with all the graphics on high and im having no problems at all im running the resolution on 1400x900

I got the same setup except I got 4 gigs of ram and run on vista x64 but I get bad framerate problems after about 30 mins of play even with low settings. Any ideas?

[Fishy]

I have a x2 4600 also .. Playing on very high with no aa .. I have no framerates issue ... Than it's start to slow down a bit and load time become very long.But more to do with memory leak problem ptobably.



*That CPU is old, why is DA automatically badly optimized if it cries at the sight of it?*



Crysis for instance .. It's run much smoother on my computer and the game was released in 2007.Even for today standard it's the best looking game.That engine was VERY optimized.Now take a look at Dragon age origin . The graphic barely look next gen(Put anti flame cloak) and to run smoothly it's require a *newer CPU* . It's clearly show to me a lack of effort to optimize their engine.It's took them 5 years to develop DA.



DAO look like a 2005/2006 tittle .. Not a 2009 tittle.It's remind me a lot of neverwinter Night 2.The game was nothing but good looking and required a beast to run .. and even than it's was very choppy.It's just show to me that bioware don't give a hell damn about this.



Why upgrade your cpu if it's can run tittle that look much better than dragon age with no frameratres issue?My CPu might be old .. Because everyone know how fast the computer world evolve (basicly each 6 month but has slowed down since 2006) .. But by looking at dragon age .. I know my cpu 'S newer thna the engine they used to create this game.

[MingWolf]

DAO look like a 2005/2006 tittle .. Not a 2009 tittle.It's remind me a lot of neverwinter Night 2.The game was nothing but good looking and required a beast to run .. and even than it's was very choppy.It's just show to me that bioware don't give a hell damn about this.

Hmm... well, Neverwinter Nights 2 was a 2006 title, and not only does DA:O look better, it also runs much smoother.  I do not think it is really that poorly optimized.  Granted, I don't see a lot of titles out there asking for a core 2 processor.  On the other turn of the coin, however, at least those with the processors do not need a true gaming video card to run this game smoothly.....

Modifié par MingWolf, 28 novembre 2009 - 09:06 .

[jableskage]

stubbieAussie wrote...

jableskage wrote...

i think you are full of it. no way you could run on max at that res with no FPS hit.

andrex198 said that they could run it on high graphics.
There is no need to rubbish them. <_<
If you did not believe them then perhaps you could have just said you find it hard to accept such a statement with all your computer knowledge.

You may well be correct in saying that they would be unable to run the game with no FPS hit. 

But if the fps hit is not noticable to the player then it doesnt matter a rats ars....

yes i read that and i still think he types **** so stfu 

[stubbieAussie]

jableskage wrote...
yes i read that and i still think he types **** so stfu 

I was simply saying that andrex198 might have indeed experienced a fps hit as you mentioned but if they did they obviously didn't notice it, nor did it impact on their game.
This implies that their computer is able to run DA:O which may be of help to others with a similar setup.

To tell me to shut the f*** up is rather childish and offers no constructive comment to this thread. <_<

[fr1ggy]

Matthew Young CT wrote...

That CPU is old, why is DA automatically badly optimized if it cries at the sight of it?

Because, as I said, literally everything I have thrown at it prior to DA:O has been fine.  As I said, I'm willing to accept that my CPU is old.  However, what seems implausible to me is the drastic difference in performance between this game and anything else.

In WoW, I can run through Dalaran, on a high population server, at primetime, and get 80-130 FPS with 1680x1050 and everything at max.

Borderlands runs perfectly smooth at 1680x1050, and everything at max.

Fallout 3 runs perfectly smooth at 1680x1050.

Perhaps DA:O is a CPU-intensive game, and that's fine.  But the fact that I have such a huge disparity in performance leads me to believe that it is poorly optimized.  Especially since it doesn't look just wonderful.

Modifié par fr1ggy, 28 novembre 2009 - 03:15 .

[Hell_Harbinger]

It's time to upgrade. Is there a huge difference game wise between the Core i7 and then Phenom II processers? I know the Core i7 blows away the competition in 3dMark and Vantage benchmarks but how is the Phenom II performance with DA?

[roybm]

budget wise the phenom would be a better deal. Unless you want to waste the money on a top of the line core i7.