1010 réponses à ce sujet

[taelus.calimshan]

I'm not sure BioWare could fix this even if they wanted to. Rendering and voice recording an entirely new ending is months of work and a boatload of money. Even if they said "you know what, the fans are dead on, we need to create a new ending and we'll get it out as fast as we can code it" we'd be looking at months before a release. I think they know that by that point, a not inconsequential number of the fans who wanted the new ending will have moved on to playing something else. So at that point, is it really worth their time and money or should they just bite the bullet and admit it could have been better, but they're going to leave it as it is?

Heck, if the latter is correct, they're probably better holding to the guns that they like their ending and just sucking up the outcry over it. They come out looking better that way (not that they come out looking good). I wish it was different, I really do, but I only in my wildest dreams think they're going to make any changes to it.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

SmokePants wrote...

If this thread was on the extranet and Commander Sheperd was reading it, I think he'd let the reapers win. It'd be hard for even a paragon Sheperd to defend your entitled, disrespectful, and small-minded behavior. You are what is ugly about the internet and anonymous, impersonal communication.

I can't count the times someone has called this a "slap in the face." If only someone could slap you in the face.

So five year of my life and over $200 of my money does not entitle me to say I don't like this and it has put me off the company forever?

Also it was stated in an interview that the player would control the ending and it would reflect the player's Shepard,that is the only reason I paid the $80.  If he had told the truth I would not have paid that money,so I was ripped off and I am mad.  If Bioware sends me a check for $80 then i will stop complaining about the way they ripped me off.

[ShdwFox7]

Icinix wrote...

Just a total opposite response to what we he and BioWare were saying not two months earlier.

Also seems like a casual dismissal of the largest Internet storm BioWare has ever stirred up.

Which .... makes me confident there is more to come...

Have to agree with you there. It's odd one month they would say "we don't want to give you and ending like Lost" and then say "we want an ending that leaves people questioning" the next. But, if this is true, imagine the political ****storm! Think about it, some gamers don't have an online connection. Posting a ending based DLC after-the-fact is going to completely side line those customers. A simple DLC wouldn't suffice for them, it'd have to be a retail released expansion or something. It's doubtful that it's already on the game disc, pretty sure hackers would have discovered one way or the other by now.

[CyanidPontifex]

How Bioware delivered the story.

[Militarized]

Taelus they're looking at a ton of lost revenue in the future. I, and MANY MANY other people will not be buying DLC, I cancelled SWTOR over it already and others are considering it, or any future titles.

So bite that bullet really ****ing hard.

[Epique Phael767]

 "Oh, we pay very close attention to it. It’s very important to us and we will always listen to feedback, interpret it and try and do the right thing by our fans." Why can I hear this being said sarcasticly?

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Changed my mind, going to hold the line. Can't abandon my crew and the Normandy!

Even Shepard needs to overcome his depression sometimes. :V

[Meshaber]

Calm it people. Gee.

They don't have an emergency squad to deal with a situation like this, and they're not going to say anything along the lines of "oh, well apparently our ending suck", or acknowledge the movement until they know exactly what, if anything, they are going to do about it.

Modifié par Meshaber, 14 mars 2012 - 03:46 .

[FoxShadowblade]

As stated before, the game has not entirely launched. He could just be deflectinh. If he isn't....well Bioware has officially seperated from it's fan base.

[dos1990]

Militarized wrote...

Taelus they're looking at a ton of lost revenue in the future. I, and MANY MANY other people will not be buying DLC, I cancelled SWTOR over it already and others are considering it, or any future titles.

So bite that bullet really ****ing hard.

AMEN!!!!!!
I wont be buying dragon age 3, or any game they release, i canceld my SWTOR subscription and i wont buy any DLC's unless they fix this!

Hold the line!

[dkear1]

GBGriffin wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

If this thread was on the extranet and Commander Sheperd was reading it, I think he'd let the reapers win. It'd be hard for even a paragon Sheperd to defend your entitled, disrespectful, and small-minded behavior. You are what is ugly about the internet and anonymous, impersonal communication.

I can't count the times someone has called this a "slap in the face." If only someone could slap you in the face.

How's that vocal minority thing working out for you?

ROFL!!!!!   Funny how we who are requesting endings that make sense seem to draw personal insults and childish behavior from our "so called betters".  Scratch that, it isn't funny....it is quite sad

As to bioware's future product....not going to happen if they leave ME3 in its current state.

Modifié par dkear1, 14 mars 2012 - 03:49 .

[Deltateam Elcor]

ShdwFox7 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Just a total opposite response to what we he and BioWare were saying not two months earlier.

Also seems like a casual dismissal of the largest Internet storm BioWare has ever stirred up.

Which .... makes me confident there is more to come...

Have to agree with you there. It's odd one month they would say "we don't want to give you and ending like Lost" and then say "we want an ending that leaves people questioning" the next. But, if this is true, imagine the political ****storm! Think about it, some gamers don't have an online connection. Posting a ending based DLC after-the-fact is going to completely side line those customers. A simple DLC wouldn't suffice for them, it'd have to be a retail released expansion or something. It's doubtful that it's already on the game disc, pretty sure hackers would have discovered one way or the other by now.

If hackers did do that, then we would have been able to modify ME2 much more than we can.

Unfortunately Bioware uses multiple encyptions on their most important data files, now this doesnt matter for PC gamers, since Origin is required and online is required for them to play the game.

The doubt is only on the consoles.

[zimm2142]

"no ideas for a good ending guys nut we has a deadline to make, ok!  take it from deus ex and disregard theme"
a few months later
"**** **** ****"

[xeNNN]

PKchu wrote...

Changed my mind, going to hold the line. Can't abandon my crew and the Normandy!

Even Shepard needs to overcome his depression sometimes. :V

good !  

no matter what, hold the line!

[ShdwFox7]

garf wrote...

ZodiEmish wrote...

There is a new Pole up on G4TV.com about who liked and didn't like the endings.... Lets the Casey Hudson how we feel again. Maybe if it is on a media site like G4 then we might get the point across. Here is the Pole 

84% for hated the ending.

Here is a link to G4TV's on going coverage of it (shown in the above video) - www.g4tv.com/me3

[balance5050]

If you take the ending for what they are, theres not much room for "interpretation" as Casey puts, unless the endings aren't what they seem to be.

Indoctrination

Modifié par balance5050, 14 mars 2012 - 03:49 .

[Pedro Costa]

Castanea wrote...

y-up

[Stygian1]

From the dialogue I can only assume this was a damage control response from about four or five days ago, when stuff was just starting to stir up. I mean think about it, if this was like today it'd be down right ridiculously snobbish and arogant.

(if anyone can provide a date that this statement was given I would love to know)

EDIT: Done a few days ago I understand... done today... well, just look up one post above me: that'd be my reaction.

Modifié par Stygian1, 14 mars 2012 - 03:51 .

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Maybe we should just start raising money,and get some programers and writers together and make our own fan made ending for ME3. People could download off of the internet for free,it would be like playable fan fiction. it would be funny to see a group of fans make a more popular ending then the team who was getting paid for it.

[Raiil]

Um... nice way to blow smoke up our collective chimines, I guess..

[Bradeh]

They had a chance to try and save face, and they failed. What a joke.

[Darth Howie]

Yeeeaaaah. Going to go play a JRPG now.

[Jackal7713]

Really? Come on man. Casey your better then this. Just be real with the fan base!

[jb1983]

dkear1 wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

If this thread was on the extranet and Commander Sheperd was reading it, I think he'd let the reapers win. It'd be hard for even a paragon Sheperd to defend your entitled, disrespectful, and small-minded behavior. You are what is ugly about the internet and anonymous, impersonal communication.

I can't count the times someone has called this a "slap in the face." If only someone could slap you in the face.

How's that vocal minority thing working out for you?

ROFL!!!!!   Funny how we who are requesting endings that make sense seem to draw personal insults and childish behavior from our "so called betters".  Scratch that, it isn't funny....it is quite sad

As to bioware's future product....not going to happen if they leave ME3 in its current state.

How dare I, as a customer, give my hard earned money to someone and expect them to deliver on their product!

Why, if I went into a restaurant and ordered a steak and they brought me out tofu, who am I to ask that they give me a steak? How rude! Not a single business in the history of the world has ever made it by catering to what its whiney and ungrateful customers wanted. The only way for a business to work is to tell the customer what they want and treat them like children if they complain. 

Remember, the core motto for any business is, "The customer is always ungrateful, do what you want."

[Captiosus77]

I almost feel bad for Bioware. They finally shook off the mess that was Dragon Age 2 only to jump feet first in the fire with The Old Republic. TOR was praised by critics but increasingly polarized the playerbase as being too short, too shallow, and with poor support. Now this mess with Mass Effect 3's ridiculous endings. I'm glad Ross Lincoln at GameFront finally put an article out there about it because it really summarizes everything I (and I'm sure, everyone else) feels is wrong.

Notice the word ALMOST in the first sentence. It's hard to feel bad for a company that made millions of dollars on these games only to give lousy support and customer relations for all three.

Modifié par Captiosus77, 14 mars 2012 - 03:55 .