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[Deltateam Elcor]

LeinadSemrig wrote...

Eumerin wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Yes, it sounds like a pre-beginning mesage to me too, from when Shepard was incarcerated on earth.

No, and there are a few reasons for that.

First and most importantly is the term "Skipper", which is only used for ship captains.  Shepard isn't the captain of a ship at the start of the game because the Normandy's been taken away from him.  There are hints that you got it back largely because no one was paying enough attention to Ash, Vega, and Joker when they swiped it during the Reaper invasion, and Hackett approved it afterwards (and had probably already planned the swiping with Anderson).

Second is that Ashley doesn't have enough time between the end of her hearing and the Reaper invasion to start sending you messages about getting permission to drop by and visit you.

Third is that iirc there's a conversation between Ashley and Shepard in which Ash talks about her reasons for not visiting Shepard during the gap between ME2 and ME3.

In short, any messages from Ashley regarding visits to Shepard *must* take place after the start of ME3.

Few flaws in your logic.  Shepard is not a captain, he's a commander with command of a ship.  The term "skipper" is waht Ashley gives you as an affectionate nickname based on comraderie.  Vega also calls you "commander" before you are officially re-instated.  It's how they show respect for who you are and what you've done.  Also, if it's a pre-game timing issue, then she could have easily sent it at any point prior to her meeting with the defense council.. She would have known she was on earth and that she would have possiby been able to see him.  She may have had her reasons for not seeing you between ME2 and ME3 and have fully planned to come see you to talk but was interrupted by the Reaper invasion.

Oh god, a commander can still be regarded as a captain of a vessel, it has nothing to do with rank.

[BlankPage]

Eloquay wrote...

Got a message from Kaidan as well (who`s my LI), but in the destroy ending, I didn`t have enough EMS, so my Shep ``died`.

I believe the secret ending (provided the whole Indoctrination theory is true.) was just there to get us speculating and thinking. We have to play multiplayer to achieve the easter egg ending, so it's almost obvious that it's there to get us thinking. 

As for the other endings (Again, this is all based off of the indoctrination theory.) we don't know if Shep dies. The easter egg cut scene only shows up if you destroy the reapers.. Which could hint that the destruction ending was the "right" ending. This doesn't mean your sheperd is 'dead'. Just indoctrinated or something along those lines. 

[Saint Op]

finish a playthrough....got it from Traynor....sooooo : \\

[Dilandau3000]

I just installed the app, and I got no such message from anyone at any point during or after the playthrough. I chose destroy and my Shepard lived.

The last message I got was from EDI thanking me about talking to her about the Illusive Man, which seems to be before the Cerberus base.

[FlammableBeef]

I got the message from Ashley. Liara was my LI, though I took her with me on the final mission so she is stranded on some distant planet I guess with no means to e-mail me

I did just start a NG+ earlier though, so it could be from that. I did pick the destruction ending and my Shepard "lived"

[J717]

The messages you receive on the Datapad are updated and consistent with your progress on your CURRENT playthrough.

I can confirm that different characters send you different messages when you complete a mission, help them out with something (an event in-game that's tied to a dialogue scene usually) etc.

I just completed the Ardat-Yakshi mission...as soon as the cutscenes ended and I was back on the Normandy in the Com-Room after debriefing with the Asari councilor, I opened up Datapad, and i had a new message, which was Liara saying:

"It was horrible to see the Ardat-Yakshi like that. Thank you for taking the time to destroy the monastery."

If it is true that the OP got that message immediately after beating the game, and that his ending was Destroy AND Shepard lived...then...wow. I will definitely be verifying this when i beat this 2nd playthrough!!!! NICE FIND OP...this could be HUGE!!!

[Solenne]

Saint Op wrote...

finish a playthrough....got it from Traynor....sooooo :

Pics or it didn't happen.

[bulldog2012]

img tags people.

[Eumerin]

LeinadSemrig wrote...
Few flaws in your logic.  Shepard is not a captain, he's a commander with command of a ship.  The term "skipper" is waht Ashley gives you as an affectionate nickname based on comraderie.  Vega also calls you "commander" before you are officially re-instated.  It's how they show respect for who you are and what you've done.  Also, if it's a pre-game timing issue, then she could have easily sent it at any point prior to her meeting with the defense council.. She would have known she was on earth and that she would have possiby been able to see him.  She may have had her reasons for not seeing you between ME2 and ME3 and have fully planned to come see you to talk but was interrupted by the Reaper invasion.

Lessee...

Nope.  The rank of Captain is different from the position of Captain.  The former is a military rank that merely clarifies one's position in the military hiearchy.  The latter is a specific job that entails acting as the person in charge on a ship.  A ship captain can be a Captain in rank, or some other rank, or even a civilian with no rank whatsoever.  The important thing is that the captain has the final say in all things pertaining to the operation of the ship.

There's a brief (optional) discussion of this in ME2 when you first step onto the Quarian ship during Tali's loyalty mission.

Skipper is a slang term used specifically to refer to the captain of a ship, and never means anything else.  You might find someone using it with someone who is no longer a captain in some circumstances as a sign of respect.  But given that Ashley is still clearly suspicious of Shepard at the start of ME3, it doesn't seem to fit here.

As far as "knowing he was on Earth", there's a conversation regarding her lack of visits between ME2 and ME3.  I suggest you go rewatch it.

And finally, once again FIVE MINUTES between the brief conversation with Ash and the Reaper landings.  There simply isn't enough time for a message like this one to be composed (more likely, Anderson ordered Ash and Vega to go get the Normandy ready right before he went into the meeting with you).  If it's tied to the start of the game, then someone at Bioware didn't think things through very clearly.

[ChaosMarky]

This might be the message you get when you are released from custody in the beginning of ME3.

[J717]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

I just installed the app, and I got no such message from anyone at any point during or after the playthrough. I chose destroy and my Shepard lived.

The last message I got was from EDI thanking me about talking to her about the Illusive Man, which seems to be before the Cerberus base.

Make sure you're signed into the Origin account on Datapad that you use to play the actual game....Datapad will sync up with your current playthrough, as well as your Galaxy At War status.

Like I mentioned earlier...the messages (so far) for me have been completely accurate and consistent with what is going on in my current playthrough (which is my 2nd playthrough - Insanity, NG+).

ChaosMarky wrote...

This might be the message you get when you are released from custody in the beginning of ME3. 

 

Nope - cause i didn't get it at the beginning. Not only that....Ashley is pretty much completely surprised to see you when you first meet up with her on Earth.

Modifié par J717, 14 mars 2012 - 04:11 .

[xeNNN]

DarkBladeX98 wrote...

HOLD THE LINE!
I really hope Shepard hasn't been indoctrinated.
It'd be like starting FarCry2 with malaria. Twas not fun.

omg yeah god damn malaria pills  throught the first hour or 2 i was like WTF IS GOING ON!

[Bendok]

I am going to assume this is referring to the beginning of the game.

The app is really quite something though. First of all cause its free.

-Fully voiced codex (plus all the non voiced entries)
-The e-mails you get from squad mates are not gotten in-game, it's all new content.
-Send fleets on missions on the galaxy map (each mission gives around 1% readiness and 1k credits generally) but you can only send a couple fleets at a time and the credits are for the app used to buy more fleets or faster mission times, etc.

[hex23]

I've read through this thread but didn't see a conclusive answer.

To the people that got these "hang in there" messages....did you only get them after you beat the game AND picked "destroy"?

Another question, did you get a message even if you died?

Modifié par hex23, 14 mars 2012 - 04:12 .

[Dilandau3000]

Eumerin wrote...

And finally, once again FIVE MINUTES between the brief conversation with Ash and the Reaper landings.  There simply isn't enough time for a message like this one to be composed (more likely, Anderson ordered Ash and Vega to go get the Normandy ready right before he went into the meeting with you).

Unless it happened before the start of the game, before that brief meeting even happened. Of course, I didn't get the message at all, from anyone.

Can anyone who claims to have gotten a similar message from anyone other than Ashley/Kaidan post an image (hold the home button and power button on your iPhone simultaneously to take a screenshot) of that? If the message came from someone other than the VS that would be more proof since the VS is the only one who would be in a position to get permission to visit you at the start of the game.

[Heavvy Metall]

This just might be a thing BioWare put in so you start a second Playthrough. They couldn't do it before the game started so when you beat the game they send it you.

[SarahLivia]

I haven't played a male Shep through that romanced Ash yet, but I would assume given the distrust and uncertainty she had about my femShep in my first playthrough, she wouldn't be calling him 'Skipper' again right away. (It's a pet name, not necessarily an indication of rank).

Am I wrong about this, does Ash, despite her distrust, call male Shep skipper from the get go? Cuz if not, that in my mind lends more credence to it being an after game thing.

[Greed1914]

Rheia1234 wrote...

I got it on my ME3 Datapad iPhone app as well, after I finished the game. It's dated for March 12th, which is after I finished the game, but before I started my new play through.

I didn't get it in the game at all, but only on the app.

"Hey, Commander. Thought I might come down to see you today -- if they let me. Here's hoping."

I'm guessing it's just alluding to how the game started.  Anyone who has played it knows that Ash/Kaiden was there where Shepard was being held, so perhaps they were coming for a visit when the Reapers hit?  It's probably just to entice you to play again.

[xeNNN]

John Never Dies wrote...

Deltateam Elcor wrote...

Ok seriously people saying "grasping at straws", just stop it, its cliché and boring.

Use something else.

Now the message implies that Shepard is in care, on the ship or some other hospital, i cant really see much else.

Because the real ending is any better.

Hell the thing doesn't even say he is in a coma, lets just stop that theory right now.

And like I said before. The whole indoctrination thing actually has less plot holes and unanswered questions then the actual ending, which to me is grasping at straws if you think its real. 

Anyways, great find. ope this leads to a better ending for all of us and not the stupid crap we got now this guy likes.

indeed we are kind of getting silly now to many people are grasping for straws ! 

just hold the line!

[mjb203]

Hopefully this is a lead in to something else, however I'm not going to hold my breath. I appreciate you bringing this to everyone's attention OP!

[Sublyminal]

I got this from Garrus, right after I lost the sniper battle with him on the Citadel.


Garrus:
Let me know if you ever want a rematch somewhere less windy. Those tornado's on the Citadel are brutal.

[xeNNN]

Greed1914 wrote...

Rheia1234 wrote...

I got it on my ME3 Datapad iPhone app as well, after I finished the game. It's dated for March 12th, which is after I finished the game, but before I started my new play through.

I didn't get it in the game at all, but only on the app.

"Hey, Commander. Thought I might come down to see you today -- if they let me. Here's hoping."

I'm guessing it's just alluding to how the game started.  Anyone who has played it knows that Ash/Kaiden was there where Shepard was being held, so perhaps they were coming for a visit when the Reapers hit?  It's probably just to entice you to play again.

agreed.

[Sashimi_taco]

Oh that is so mean to do after you beat the game. Like a stab in the heart.

[Saint Op]

being at the start only works for 2 maybe 3 people...shep asks everyone what they have been doing since he was detained that don't make sense if he had contact with them...

[hex23]

I doubt it's from the beginning of the game considering Shep is surprised to see Ashley....meaning they most likely haven't been in contact. Also while Shep was in trouble, I doubt it was to the point of them screening his visitors.