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Jeremy Jahn's review of the ME3 Endings


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i like this guy

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luzburg wrote...

he is so right ther suld be a possebilety for a happy, netural, or bad


In the end it just goes back to what he said in that protagonist shouldn't "have to" anything in a game such as Mass Effect where everything is based on choice. If you played as a good character, why can't we have a good ending? Give us distinct endings ranging from really good to really bad.

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Please try not to spam the thread though because it may end up causing the thread to get locked XP

How about we talk about some of the things he didn't mention? I know there are a few things he didn't point out or go into detail.


He basically mentioned everything, but he should exemplified more on why even if the ending is about indoctrination, the endings are still horrifying. He knows so much about it and point things out so quickly. Many people might miss it.


He could have gone over the Indoctrination Theory in detail but he did say that he could deal with it being one of the possible endings.
I would have liked him to refer back to the lore and how it contradicts each of the endings itself though. Aside from lack of choice, each of the endings including to the Reapers' purpose just doesn't make sense based on what we already know from the previous games.


He did say there were plenty of things he would think about adding once he was done and encouraged his viewers to make their own video responses to cover those things.


I know that he did, but I bet you that many people didn't catch that part because it's so packed with facts and reasonings.

People should know that regardless of what theory fits... endings suck.

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I really hope Bioware team sees this.

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Keep this post ALIVE!!!

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TcomJ wrote...


I know that he did, but I bet you that many people didn't catch that part because it's so packed with facts and reasonings.

People should know that regardless of what theory fits... endings suck.


The endings as they are right now suck. But yeah, there were some things I didn't catch him say because he did say a lot in just 8 minutes XD
Either way, his point is that there should be more alternatives and he would even be okay with the Indoctrination Theory if it was just another possible ending. Heck, he said he would even be okay with the current endings if they were just 1 of many other endings you could get. Instead they were just the only 3 options you get.


Anyways, for those hoping that BioWare sees this feel free to spread his review around the internet. Get the word out about the video.

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haha the song in his overall review should be the mass effect soundtrack lmfao

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He nailed it exactly. Will post this thread in every "Oh I love the endings" thread I come across.

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Just watched it today.

Garrus impression - AWESOME.

The rest? BANG ON.

Good review and nicely sums up issues with plot, endings etc.

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Oh yah, his Garrus impression was so awesome. I wish they put that in the ending LOL

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Seems more and more media people are responding like this, I dont see any large group responding or defending these endings, where is BW??? 

Anything to say ? .....   (crickets chirping)

Modifié par bpzrn, 14 mars 2012 - 06:09 .


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Nailed. He points out, like the gamefront article why the ending(endings if you like) is crappy and devoid of in game logic.

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bpzrn wrote...

Seems more and more media people are responding like this, I dont see any large group responding or defending these endings, where is BW??? 

Anything to say ? .....   (crickets chirping)


There are people who defend the endings but I have yet to see a good defense that actually explains the logic with the endings.
The rest of the defense are simple "I like the endings" or "You guys just don't understand baaawwwwww." or even the "you guys are just spoiled brats deal with it."

Modifié par Skypezee, 14 mars 2012 - 06:19 .


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He doesn't really mention the plot holes that present themselves when the Citadel is revealed to be sapient. And the dues ex machina ending where the Catalyst for no apparent reason changes its stance and lets Shepard decide the fate of the itself and the Reapers.

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Skypezee wrote...

bpzrn wrote...

Seems more and more media people are responding like this, I dont see any large group responding or defending these endings, where is BW??? 

Anything to say ? .....   (crickets chirping)


There are people who defend the endings but I have yet to see a good defense that actually explains the logic with the endings.
The rest of the defense are simple "I like the endings" or "You guys just don't understand baaawwwwww." or even the "you guys are just spoiled brats deal with it."


One of the guy who came up with indoctrination theory block me for posting that video. LOL

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He's totally on point with what we're saying. Thanks for posting that link, it was good to see.

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Friendly bump.

I agree, with everything he said. Line is holding strong.

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Thanks for the post, this video definitely hit the nail on the head with the endings. I want to know what happened with the whole "dark energy" plot idea they mentioned on Haestrom in ME2. It's like the idea completely disappeared from the plot of the third game.

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Baryonic-Member wrote...

He doesn't really mention the plot holes that present themselves when the Citadel is revealed to be sapient. And the dues ex machina ending where the Catalyst for no apparent reason changes its stance and lets Shepard decide the fate of the itself and the Reapers.


Those are the minor details, yes. But he does make a point with the Catalyst as far as how Shepard would never agreed to any of those choices.


Also, the video has over 32,000 views XD It's not even 24 hours since he released the video either.

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bpzrn wrote...

Seems more and more media people are responding like this, I dont see any large group responding or defending these endings, where is BW??? 

Anything to say ? .....   (crickets chirping)


All exept IGN.

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Magnius01 wrote...

Thanks for the post, this video definitely hit the nail on the head with the endings. I want to know what happened with the whole "dark energy" plot idea they mentioned on Haestrom in ME2. It's like the idea completely disappeared from the plot of the third game.


It gets mentioned.... like once. By Tali when you see her again. All she does is mention the mission though.
Basically it was just mentioned in passing.

The whole dark energy plot was in the original script for ME3 though.

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One of the guy who came up with indoctrination theory block me for posting that video. LOL


Might have been based on how you presented the video XP Jeremy doesn't seem to have a problem with the theory if it was one of the endings. But he did say that it is sad when the current endings cause us to starting speculating on how it feels like a dream than reality.

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Glad he was able to say what many are thinking but in an intelligent manner.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Glad he was able to say what many are thinking but in an intelligent manner.


Only a few people seem to want to attack BioWare or even those who like the endings (at least those who like the endings and in turn doesn't insult those of us who didn't).

But he does a good job at compiling the major issues with the endings.

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AHAHA! Oh man, that Garrus impression was spot on.