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[FlyingCow371]

Anybody remember interviews like this one from pre-release:
http://www.oxm.co.uk...-sophisticated/ 

"We have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don't have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere," Hudson explained."This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C."It's more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."

It doesn't sound like he was playing the same game at all. Either he was lying, or he didn't actually play through the end of the game or talk to anybody who played through the ending, or bioware already created other alternate, better, endings with some closure and not dooming everybody who came to fight for Earth.

[AlexXIV]

I hope this is a devopment towards our cause. If more and more official sites give the ending a second glance they may find that it is inevitable to talk about the flaws of it.

[CheeseEnchilada]

This is a great read, and I love that every point is fully explained, rather than it just being a quick list.

[Nobrandminda]

Very nice.

[MattFini]

Good stuff. And stories like this will continue to give us momentum.

[Goose1004]

Nice article

[SilencedScream]

Great article by an intelligent writer.

I'm sick of the publications that are insulting us - the people that READ them! - over the issue. Cover it. That's fine. Express displeasure. Express disappointment. But please, don't insult the very people that read your articles...

[Vaktathi]

A perfect and well illustrated position of the issues we as fans have with the ending to this game. I hope it gets seen by more!

Holding.

[WhiteVV1ings]

Yes, great article. We must continue to HOLD THE LINE.

[Unit-Alpha]

Also, thank you, Mr. Woo, for adding the Bioware tag to the thread; makes it a lot easier for people to find.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 14 mars 2012 - 02:45 .

[MPSai]

Sums up the issues with the ending and how it affects the fans perfectly.

[Corrik Ronis]

Always good to see more support.

[clonedoriginzero]

nice to see an article who actually analyzed the reasons why people are upset.

alot of the other articles are "durr nerds are mad!"

[TheDove]

Wisdom, this game journalist has it

[TheSneric]

very good read, completely agree with it

[zarnk567]

Hold the line people, we are gaining more support as we go along

Modifié par zarnk567, 14 mars 2012 - 02:43 .

[pomrink]

very good article. it really captured all the arguments properly and didn't make a "strawman" of them. every single point in the article is what we've been trying to say on these forums and on all these social networking sites, and a large amount of gaming press has been ignore. A++

Also, mr woo and all moderators here, i want to thank you for being so (for the lack of a better phrase) permissive and open minded about all the bioware criticism, I know a lot of us, in your place, would just liberally ban and shut down threads, in all seriousness, thank you.

[Tequila Man]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Also, thank you, Mr. Woo, for adding the Bioware tag to the thread; makes it a lot eeasier for people to find.

Alpha, you're so win I would lose just to see you win, except I can't. Because, you see, you win.

[UrdnotGrunty2]

Read this Bioware

[bitplane]

VerdantSF wrote...

I loved this part:

"Legion immediately changes the synthetic/organic debate when you gain him as a character. Rather than furthering a Matrix-like view of a world in which machines eventually kill their creators, Legion proves that all forms of life can and do have value, and that it is absolutely possible for synthetic and organic life to co-exist peacefully. Throw in EDI from Mass Effect 3 and the debate changes radically again — now synthetic and organic characters aren’t just not killing each other, they’re actively hooking up of their own free will.

That doesn’t sound like a world in which the cylons are destined to nuke the humans. Mass Effect 3 even gives you a chance to redeem the quarians and the geth in their struggle and reunite creator and created, parent and child. These events, in the very same game, are fundamentally opposed to the philosophy of the ending and the themes it represents."

It doesn't though, given enough time the machines will win, regardless of whether they go to war with us or not they will outlive us and may well convert all life into non-thinking matter. I started a topic about this here.

[tay2208]

An extremely well written article that hightlights every point that all of us are upset about.

[UrdnotGrunty2]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Shameless bumping with no discussion is considered spam hereabouts. Please cut it out.

The only reason you want us to cut it out is because its right and points out even deeper flaws in the so called artistic ending

[Tryptomine]

"But the majority of the ending is an exercise in increasing incomprehensibility, beginning with the abrupt appearance of The Illusive Man. Without any warning, he just kind of… shows up in the control room with Shep and Anderson. It is never explained how this is even possible; there isn’t even a cursory “Shepard, as you can see, I planned to save Yumanity by purchasing a penthouse here on the citadel. PEACE.”

What? While I am generally with the negative consensus about the ending, I never saw this bit as a problem. It was clearly stated that the Illusive Man knew that the CItadel was the Catalyst, and that he could use it to control the Reapers. It was also explicitly stated he fled to the CItadel the moment he realized this, right before the Reapers captured it. Granted, it was odd that he pops up suddenly in a super secret area no ones ever been to before (at least Shep and Anderson got there by special means), but I'm willing to chalk that bit up to creative lisence or Reaper influence.

[Esquin]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Shameless bumping with no discussion is considered spam hereabouts. Please cut it out.

If your bosses stopped ignoring their fan base then we wouldn't need to bump anything. We deserve a comment on what happens next.

[Yalision]

Awesome article. More exposure is a good thing.