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[Zjarcal]

Dragoonlordz wrote...
Reason I created this thread was to show that while many do apparently hate it there are some specifically myself originally who liked it, I feel many simply do not voice such on here due to the sheer hostility shown on these forums to anyone of a different opinion or stance but at least some have made themselves known in here of feeling the same.

Yeah... I actually intend to make a blog about it, because doing it in the forums is just asking to be flamed (and I really don't need the headache). Agreed with virtually everything you posted in the OP.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 29 mars 2012 - 11:53 .

[VoodooDrackus]

Dragoonlordz wrote...


The film with the child who attracts lightning? If so I loved that film. Very heart warming and thoughtful I personally feel.

Yeah, that's the one.  With Jeff Goldblum.

[K_Tabris]

It's sad that you can't have your own opinions on here. I remember getting flamed a bit for enjoying DA2, and this situation with the Mass Effect 3 endings is very similar.

I think the Destroy ending is ok, but I do not like the other variations being so similar. It left me dissatisfied. Unless future games repair the Relays or something, I don't see how the world can continue. Luckily, that is up to the writers, and not up to uncreative fans like myself.

So, for those of you who enjoyed the endings, I am happy for you. It just wasn't everyone's cup of tea.

[ZeeKay]

The ending actually isnt that bad, the execution and multitude of plot holes surrounding it are what make it into the pile of **** is is right now.

[PSUHammer]

RE: OP

Bravo for stating your opinion (although, wall of text! I only read a few paragraphs). Anyone who flames you is part of the problem of these boards. You did not come across as condescending or dismissive of others...just stated your piece. Entertainment is subjective and if you enjoyed it, money well spent.

For the record, I am with you. Love this game. The ending could have been better (as it stands, Mordin and Thane story lines had more emotional impact for me), but I still didn't think it was as horrible as others are making it out to be.

[Gemini1179]

@OP I'm glad you enjoyed the ending. My question is this: if you are satisfied, happy and ultimately have what you wanted, why care if others are not happy and want a change? It's not like it will have any effect on you. This is my problem with people 'defending' the ending. If you're happy with it, who cares? Do you just enjoy seeing other people unhappy and wish for it to continue? I'd be, "I loved it but if the majority wants a change, I fully support it as it doesn't affect me one way or another."

It's like SGRA's. I don't partake in the m/m relationships in the games just by preference, but I fully support them being in the games and always will.

[Ultra Prism]

My problem with the ending was destruction of Mass Relays ... that made me upset ... and lack of not knowing what happens, or shepard funeral at least .... the galaxy remembering the legend ... the problem was execution ... otherwise it was emotional when I went through it first ... similar opinions as you ... but after thinking quite abit I feel more annoyed about not knowing what impact I really left on galaxy ... abrupt endings more like that

[Ultra Prism]

but the problem is LOTS OF SPECULATION from everyone ... thats not fair I didn't pay a game to figure out my own imagination then I could have done that without buying ME games ... Game is supposed to reward me with enjoyable experience that I could go back which I am doing ... but the endings once again reduced the love for Bioware new style right at in the end

[Kadi]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I read and agree with alot of what you said, few things still dont sit to well with me on ME3 but that doesnt mean that the game is bad because i disliked a few things, nor should disliking a part of the game means the whole thing is bad, i think people are grasping a straws to funnel their dislike/hate towards aspects of the game.

Ive said few times now, I wanted more Harbinger, I doubt I will get an encounter with him, or a dialogue stand off in any DLC at all, which makes me a little annoyed. but the game for me was mostly amazing.

anyway good post =)

[PSUHammer]

iVitriol wrote...

*resists urge to flip out.*

That's a cool story bro...

...nobody cares.

Thanks......for that.

[SamT3N7]

You're not alone OP! I just think those who liked the end are the quieter voice but thanks for the post! A little positive in the sea of negative.

[Phrogger]

I thought the ending was AMAZING!! It showed, in my mind, how bold Bioware was willing to be with their storyline. The reason I wouldn't want it to change is because that would be "selling out" in exactly the way that so many people are attacking Bioware for when they joined EA. Bioware wrote an amazing opus, and the ending was meant to make an emotional impact that defied your expectations.

Mass Effect 3's ending is exactly what we, (as gamers), need to move the world of gaming forward from teen fantasy entertainment to a worthy form of storytelling and art.

A standard "here's what happened to all your companions" a la Fallout and previous games would have met expectations for easy satisfaction; a burger with fries that so many folks accuse EA of cranking out. Here Bioware whipped up something unique, controversial, and heartbreaking- much like I felt at the end of the book Ender's Game. I think it's a case where unfortunately Bioware has advanced while some of us customers have not, (with the many recent examples). I loved it, you should be proud, and thank you Bioware!!

Sincerely,
Been playing your games since Baldur's Gate!

[Jackal7713]

Op the wall of text, OMG. But really I'm glad you liked the ending. I just wish we can get a add ending for other people and fix the plot holes. That way, everyone can enjoy the title, the way it was meant to be.

[Jonwes]

I liked it too... though people have brought up a lot of good points about the weirdness with it, so I get why some people didn't like it. And in retrospect I get why people wouldn't like it.

[Dragoonlordz]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Op the wall of text, OMG. But really I'm glad you liked the ending. I just wish we can get a add ending for other people and fix the plot holes. That way, everyone can enjoy the title, the way it was meant to be.

If want to see wall of text check out my DA2 review which makes this look like nothing more than a footnote.

[Jade Elf]

Hammer6767 wrote...

RE: OP

Bravo for stating your opinion (although, wall of text! I only read a few paragraphs). Anyone who flames you is part of the problem of these boards. You did not come across as condescending or dismissive of others...just stated your piece. Entertainment is subjective and if you enjoyed it, money well spent.

For the record, I am with you. Love this game. The ending could have been better (as it stands, Mordin and Thane story lines had more emotional impact for me), but I still didn't think it was as horrible as others are making it out to be.

This. The bolded bit in particular.

That is all (well except for me continuing my 5th playthrough - lots of Sheps!).

[jbg927]

Shermos wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I actually enjoyed the endings, they were kind of cliché but I still liked it. 

Maybe I'm just weird but the ending was nice (imho) and left universe/franchise extremely open to new stories/titles. 

You're not the only one mate, and you're right about lot's of room being left open for the franchise to continue alla Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Most of the people who enjoyed the endings will be too busy playing in their spare time to be bothered posting, so they tend to get overwhelmed by the haters.

I don't understand how the endings left it open for more games!!!!  The main pieces of the galaxy are now gone, how is there room for expansion on this?

[Barheet1]

To OP: Thanks for your thoughts. I've been reading these kinds of posts and actively TRYING to like the ending. So far, no luck. But I do think I've found more peace with the ending.

[Dragoonlordz]

jbg927 wrote...

I don't understand how the endings left it open for more games!!!!  The main pieces of the galaxy are now gone, how is there room for expansion on this?

Someone else answered this and while I have similar feelings on it I have seen others express it in better ways in this thread and others why all life was not wiped out and was never shown everyone dying in the galaxy either. Even on the Krogan homeworld in this thread people have spoken about how they could continue to exist and you never saw their society fall to peices so it is merely an assumption or use of imagination to believe it does just like it is do believe it does not. Another person talked in this thread expressed how the races around Earth being present does not lead to their destruction and how logically they could very much survive. All these things have been discussed and yes using imagination which is not a bad thing (imho), they have found resolutions to problems that some agree with and others do not.

Dragoonlordz wrote...

xsdob wrote...

And besides, the emotional satisfaction of having shepard journey finally end and having the cycle broken so that sometime in the future, life can grow and prosper without fear of being genocided by the reapers or controlled by the galactic ruling power just fine with me. The relays cause species to progress unnaturally, they advance too quickly and stop trying to achieve better ways of dong things, they basically stop trying to innovate. Without them, life can evolve with the diversity necessary to keep innovation alive and fight off stagnation.

The endings may be full of things you don't like, but it gives me a sense of hope for the future, and that maybe someday life will remake the relays, or maybe they'll invent a better way to traverse the galaxy, I don't know, but I do think that as long as there's life, there is hope.

I agree in a sense, with the changes so great that it sparks imagination of where to go from here. As a fan of both titles that start in the middle or end of a space age and those where just taking their first steps into the unknown or space I personally see no problem with this.

VoodooDrackus wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Personally I am more inclined to believe the relays imploded as opposed to exploded pushing the majority of the force inwards not outwards, or that the energy which is relating to the codex entry about when they explode is converted for the purpose of the pulse wave, that altered energy wave does not carry the same consequences as the original and it's purpose could be to relay whatever choice you make to the Reapers in the other parts of the galaxy. I consider these mere possiblities but I have no problems doing so because for me the ending sparked my imagination which I consider a blessing not a curse as far to often these days when everything holds your hand and explains it all away after such is done the game becomes worthless as there is not as much left to think about. Those titles get turned off and not played again for me.

Yes. Since the cores contain Element Zero which is used in biotics, that energy is being used to send out biotic waves that can have the effect you chose on organic/synthetic/reaper technology.

You have been using biotic power, seeing it used, throughout all 3 games. Biotic powers can rip apart the mass of something, hold things in stasis, lift things up, etc. Biotics use Element Zero and the crucible is essentially able to do the same thing.

If you look at the arrival supernova explosion, the Element Zero is not focused and creates a devastating explosion. The Mass Relays at the end of 3 are being used to send out the change to the galaxy and have to be sacrificed in the process to unleash the wave needed. You see the relays speeding up before the Element Zero is unleashed.

I like that it sparks my imagination as well. Kind of reminds me of when I saw Powder and discussed that movie with my friends after. Not sure why I brought that up.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 30 mars 2012 - 06:06 .

[He4vyMet4l]

I don't know if I said it before here, but you liking the endings is tied directly to you how much you like to speculate. Which is irrelevant to the whole issue, or rather opposite to it. You are missing the point, and always will.

You have, after all, made this thread in response to the fan rage.

[Dragoonlordz]

He4vyMet4l wrote...

I don't know if I said it before here, but you liking the endings is tied directly to you how much you like to speculate. Which is irrelevant to the whole issue, or rather opposite to it. You are missing the point, and always will.

You have, after all, made this thread in response to the fan rage.

Incorrect, I made it to express my like and let them know why I liked it. Ironic that your relying on speculation about why I created it. Feel free to enlighten me how you could possibly know more so than I do why I do things thanks.

[drinkurmilk]

Deserves a bump. Pretty much my thoughts to a tee.

[StarcloudSWG]

The endings are still garbage. Everything from the scene with Anderson and Shepard looking out at the final battle on just plain *does not fit* the rest of the game. Resorting to going back to the b-plot resolved on Rannoch as the justification for genocide makes no sense.

It is poor writing, terrible plotting, and just plain does not fit the themes and narrative structure of *the entire rest of the trilogy*.

Yes, it accomplishes all the things mentioned in the original post. That does not make it a good ending.

[GLR-0053]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

The endings are still garbage. Everything from the scene with Anderson and Shepard looking out at the final battle on just plain *does not fit* the rest of the game. Resorting to going back to the b-plot resolved on Rannoch as the justification for genocide makes no sense.

It is poor writing, terrible plotting, and just plain does not fit the themes and narrative structure of *the entire rest of the trilogy*.

Yes, it accomplishes all the things mentioned in the original post. That does not make it a good ending.

Artistic Intergrity and setting a dangerous precedent.