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[WizenSlinky0]

I have never been unsatisfied by an ending to a game or trilogy enough to say anything other than "Eh, not what I expected, oh well". While I'm not really involved in the whole rage storm forming under the surface...I have to admit I agree wholeheartedly that the ending as a whole was hugely unsatisfying.

Nelatherion wrote...
Twas a good twist, the whole "the best
two options are subtly just Shepared being indoctrinated" (if you
interpret it that way, which I have.) it does lend a bit more sense to
the ending, and makes it fit in better. But the fact it is so out there
(surpassing the average person's suspension of disbelief) really freaked
people out.

I'm sorry, what? That is a fan THEORY. It has no basis in reality.

You can't claim that people are just uncomfortable with new things when you are blatently using a theory rather than the actual evidence provided.

Modifié par WizenSlinky0, 14 mars 2012 - 04:13 .

[Shermos]

bwg888 wrote...

The complaint isn't about what's there. It's about what isn't there.

So in other words, you lack imagination? A good ending doesn't need to explain and tie off everything.

[Kierkegaardianite]

xsdob wrote...

Too many people complained that paragons got special treatment.

I can see that side of the story, since Paragons tended to save everyone and every species that they could, and Renegades were blasting their way across the galaxy, but there had to be a more elegant way of making Renegade a more equal choice in terms of player satisfaction in ME3 without gutting the endings for everyone. Hell, just having saved the Collectors Base could have opened up an entirely new and Renegade-applicable ending, considering the events that take place immediately preceding it.

Modifié par Kierkegaardianite, 14 mars 2012 - 04:16 .

[Dragoonlordz]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I enjoyed all of it (though taking into account the cliché manner of how you make those choices at the end as not perfect). I can't explain all the single elements in non spoiler section. I just thought I would let Bioware know that this title I thought was very good, epic in fact, even the ending I loved. The last title they created I loved as much was Dragon Age: Origins. This title as as great to me as Origins was. I did not really enjoy Mass Effect 2 much but it was okay. Mass Effect 1 I liked a lot but there is an element of due to being the first title which opened up a new series I could enjoy and style of game. Dragon Age 2 I disliked greatly.

You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

Nobody is saying the game is bad, we're saying the ending is bad. It's just poorly written and there's no way around that. The entire motivation of the antagonistic force is just unreedemably nonsensical. 

And nobody liked Dragonage II, that goes without saying.

I know exaclty what it means. It has been done before many times even recently such title as DE:HR did the same but that is not the only title/game to use that manner of final choice. It has been done many times before hence it is cliché. Do not treat me as a fool. The ending is not bad (imho), not sure what part of that you do not understand. If you do not enjoy the ending then good for you, that is your personal opinion. Mine however differs and I did enjoy it so get over it. We are entitled to enjoy different things.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 mars 2012 - 04:16 .

[CerberusSoldier]

Shermos wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I actually enjoyed the endings, they were kind of cliché but I still liked it. 

Maybe I'm just weird but the ending was nice (imho) and left universe/franchise extremely open to new stories/titles. 

You're not the only one mate, and you're right about lot's of room being left open for the franchise to continue alla Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Most of the people who enjoyed the endings will be too busy playing in their spare time to be bothered posting, so they tend to get overwhelmed by the haters.

   



This franchise is no where on the same level as Star Trek . in Star Trek Picard was not some stupid ass lap dog for StarFleet . He did things his way and followed the StarFleet rules . But he never had to report in as much as Alliance puppet Shepard does in Mass Effect 3 .

[loungeshep]

The Destroy ending seemed closest to how Mass Effect was going to end from day one. Next I may try synthesis. It seems like a most Sci-Fi Asimov/Clarke kind of ending.

[loungeshep]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Shermos wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I actually enjoyed the endings, they were kind of cliché but I still liked it. 

Maybe I'm just weird but the ending was nice (imho) and left universe/franchise extremely open to new stories/titles. 

You're not the only one mate, and you're right about lot's of room being left open for the franchise to continue alla Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Most of the people who enjoyed the endings will be too busy playing in their spare time to be bothered posting, so they tend to get overwhelmed by the haters.

   



This franchise is no where on the same level as Star Trek . in Star Trek Picard was not some stupid ass lap dog for StarFleet . He did things his way and followed the StarFleet rules . But he never had to report in as much as Alliance puppet Shepard does in Mass Effect 3 .

You meant Kirk right? Or are we watching a different Next Generation? Picard was some stupid ass lap dog. He was by the book, loved following regulations officer.  Now if you meant Kirk who was NOT some stupid ass lap dog for starfleet and DID do things his own way, then okay.

[Kierkegaardianite]

loungeshep wrote...

The Destroy ending seemed closest to how Mass Effect was going to end from day one. Next I may try synthesis. It seems like a most Sci-Fi Asimov/Clarke kind of ending.

The only difference is that's the explosion is green, really, with some texture swaps on characters.

[WizenSlinky0]

Shermos wrote...

bwg888 wrote...

The complaint isn't about what's there. It's about what isn't there.

So in other words, you lack imagination? A good ending doesn't need to explain and tie off everything.

I'd say where the ending tempts your imagination to go is a lot worse than the actual endings themselves

[Dragoonlordz]

loungeshep wrote...

You meant Kirk right? Or are we watching a different Next Generation? Picard was some stupid ass lap dog. He was by the book, loved following regulations officer.  Now if you meant Kirk who was NOT some stupid ass lap dog for starfleet and DID do things his own way, then okay.

See now you have opened a can of worms of which will destroy everything in the known universe.

Picard vs Kirk.

Your fault, only have self to blame for what see now. 

Anyways I have expressed that I enjoyed the endings personally and I liked the game very much. That was the purpose of this thread, not to bicker or pursuade anyone else who may feel differently. Just a thanks Bioware for Mass Effect 3 and I hope you keep up the good work put into the trilogy with future RPG hybrid games like Mass Effect in future. I should state I have no interest personally in MMO's or RTS titles so I hope the team who created Mass Effect 3 continue to make same type of titles. 

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 mars 2012 - 04:33 .

[G3rman]

Teleporting teammates and crashing Normandy makes no sense.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

[LegendaryBlade]

G3rman wrote...

Teleporting teammates and crashing Normandy makes no sense.

Stopping Synthetics from destroyign Organics by using Synthetics to destroy Organics
Pick your favorite color
Teleporting crewmates
The one in one billion chance of landing on a planet the way they did

Endless holes in the writing. Endless.

[Aulis Vaara]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

You misunderstand the purpose of this thread. I am not here to convince you are wrong or have you try to convince me I am wrong for enjoying what I did as people enjoy different things and that may be something some people here need to learn to have some respect for of late.

You have many threads talking about why you hate it and expressing your dislike for it including reasons why. I made this thread for simple purpose of expressing my enjoyment and feelings on the game and say thanks to Mass Effect team for the trilogy and especially Mass Effect 1 and 3. Expressing that I personally enjoyed the ending, is that now a crime against god or a personal attack on your own feelings on the game in your own thread?

I'm not trying to convince anyone that what they enjoy is less valid than myself or what they disliked is less valid than myself, or anything of that nature. I did not and do not jump into your thread where you expressed disdain for it or dislike, so curious as to why you feel the need to assume mine is an attack on yours.

And some of us just want to understand WHY you like the ending, because we can't see it. At all. The end just doesn't make any sense, no matter from which angle we look at it...

And the only thing the people that do like it seem to be saying is "stop whining" and "we do like it", without any reasons given.

Modifié par Aulis Vaara, 14 mars 2012 - 04:37 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

-snip-

You appear to have entered the wrong thread. I do not care for why another person hates something, this thread was to express my like of it as such is a personal preference.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

I am content with the ending.

I no longer care.

I'm getting Geth in MP. Am I a sell out? I don't care! GETH!

[Dragoonlordz]

Aulis Vaara wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

You misunderstand the purpose of this thread. I am not here to convince you are wrong or have you try to convince me I am wrong for enjoying what I did as people enjoy different things and that may be something some people here need to learn to have some respect for of late.

You have many threads talking about why you hate it and expressing your dislike for it including reasons why. I made this thread for simple purpose of expressing my enjoyment and feelings on the game and say thanks to Mass Effect team for the trilogy and especially Mass Effect 1 and 3. Expressing that I personally enjoyed the ending, is that now a crime against god or a personal attack on your own feelings on the game in your own thread?

I'm not trying to convince anyone that what they enjoy is less valid than myself or what they disliked is less valid than myself, or anything of that nature. I did not and do not jump into your thread where you expressed disdain for it or dislike, so curious as to why you feel the need to assume mine is an attack on yours.

And some of us just want to understand WHY you like the ending, because we can't see it. At all. The end just doesn't make any sense, no matter from which angle we look at it...

If something makes you feel good and you gain enjoyment from it (as a feeling), that is all there is to it and that is your answer in principle. I enjoyed the ending, it felt good to me and I do not feel the need to over analyse it myself in sense of knowing every single thing is wrapped up or explained to me.


(Spoilers)

I liked everything about it (although the format of final choice has been done many times before). I loved from Anderson and Shepard sitting together to the scenery walking down towards your fate. The crew leaving the ship in lush green forest looking up at the sky (especially Ash which was my LI), smiling and looking happy to be alive (I like to think fondly remembering my Shepard and their love for each other). Seeing Joker and EDI together where they can be together, a bond present since ME2. The music at the end. Shepard giving everything he has to save everyone after being hit by the Reaper near the end. The feeling that he gave it his all and saved the ones he loved, The final scene on the planet with nice scenery looking at the moon with grandfather and child talking about what once was and the story inspiring the child to reach for the stars and knowing life goes on plus more including imagining how they lived out the remainder of their lives, were they happy or sad, did they remember him decades on and will peace remain all sparks imagination. I felt all the choices had an impact in the game during the game, the repercussions occur in time but I am gone and not present so naturally I do not or would not know how things turn out for everyone. I liked how TiM reacted and what he says as he looks at the Earth after my actions too.

(End Spoiler)


It made me smile at some points, slight sorrow at others. It was a good ending because it made me feel happy and sorrowful for many reasons. I loved it. So thanks Bioware.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 mars 2012 - 08:15 .

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

-snip-

You appear to have entered the wrong thread. I do not care for why another person hates something, this thread was to express my like of it as such is a personal preference.

Ok please tell me why you like them? Please explain why Joker is trying to escape the wave?

[Dragoonlordz]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

-snip-

You appear to have entered the wrong thread. I do not care for why another person hates something, this thread was to express my like of it as such is a personal preference.

Ok please tell me why you like them? Please explain why Joker is trying to escape the wave?

See my response above your one.

[daftPirate]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Walla Walla 06 wrote...

Yeah, I thought it was decent. Not amazing, but they were fine. People never like the ending to ANYTHING, so I'm not surprised about all the complaining. It's natural.

It surprised me just how much I liked it given so many people were negative and warning from others of it.

I'm generally very hard person to please, as shown if ever debated with me in the Dragon Age 2 section but with ME3 I think Bioware did a dam good job, I actually thank them for making the title the way they have done. Still not everything is perfect, it does lack replay value compared to previous titles in series but overall it was a dam good game and it surprised even myself how good (imho).

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Agreed with all above. This was an extremely entertaining conclusion to the trilogoy, with epic endings to choose from. Sure they didn't go all out making a different cutscene for each, but those last choice, and the whole ending sequence was quite good, especially if the whole "hold onto your saves" rumor amounts to something, and these new choices affect a future installment or something.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

-snip-

You appear to have entered the wrong thread. I do not care for why another person hates something, this thread was to express my like of it as such is a personal preference.

Ok please tell me why you like them? Please explain why Joker is trying to escape the wave?

See my response above your one.

I see no explanation to why Joker is trying to escape the wave.

Also you must also realize that they are all dead. Everyone who was on the Normandy have been given a death sentence.  Also why were my companions even on the Normandy in the first place they were fighting on earth in the trenches. So Joker made a special run to go pick them up and try to escape. That is Out of character for every single one of my companions. But if you can accept that I guess it's ok.

Modifié par Harbinger of your Destiny, 14 mars 2012 - 05:07 .

[Dragoonlordz]

daftPirate wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Walla Walla 06 wrote...

Yeah, I thought it was decent. Not amazing, but they were fine. People never like the ending to ANYTHING, so I'm not surprised about all the complaining. It's natural.

It surprised me just how much I liked it given so many people were negative and warning from others of it.

I'm generally very hard person to please, as shown if ever debated with me in the Dragon Age 2 section but with ME3 I think Bioware did a dam good job, I actually thank them for making the title the way they have done. Still not everything is perfect, it does lack replay value compared to previous titles in series but overall it was a dam good game and it surprised even myself how good (imho).

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Agreed with all above. This was an extremely entertaining conclusion to the trilogoy, with epic endings to choose from. Sure they didn't go all out making a different cutscene for each, but those last choice, and the whole ending sequence was quite good, especially if the whole "hold onto your saves" rumor amounts to something, and these new choices affect a future installment or something.

I'm glad I am not the only one who enjoyed the ending.

I too look forward to knowing what they mean by hold on to your saves. 

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 mars 2012 - 05:07 .

[Hunter of Legends]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I actually enjoyed the endings, they were kind of cliché but I still liked it. 

Maybe I'm just weird but the ending was nice (imho) and left universe/franchise extremely open to new stories/titles. 

You're not the only one, I enjoyed them too!


But I see why others are pissed and there are indeed massive plot holes.

[Dragoonlordz]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Ok please tell me why you like them? Please explain why Joker is trying to escape the wave?

See my response above your one.

I see no explanation to why Joker is trying to escape the wave.

I explained in great detail the answer to your first question. Your second one is of no concern to me and has nothing at all to be honest with my enjoyment of the ending. Like I said before this thread is not here to convince you that your dislike is wrong but merely explain why I like it. If you did not it then that is not my concern, you may have your reasons, I explained my reasons why I liked it.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[LegendaryBlade]

"I have no problem with how bad the writing is or how many plotholes there are, as long as the ending is very pretty and thematic"

Got it.