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[Jimbe2693]

My Infiltrator Shep shot it. He is honest and enjoys a bit of competition:innocent:.

My Sentinel is an Assault Rifle guy and shall miss unintentionally.

sedrikhcain wrote...

Garrus isn't some green-arse recruit whose
confidence I'm trying to build.

Yeah this was my first thought when presented with the 'miss on purpose' option.

Modifié par Jimbe2693, 20 mars 2012 - 11:26 .

[sedrikhcain]

Quething wrote...

My vanguard took the shot. Sniper's not "her" weapon per se the way it is Garrus', sure, but she's an N7 marine. The idea that she can't hit a slow-moving skeet with a combat-ready Mantis (plenty of advanced WVI on that thing) is ludicrous. And she has way too much pride to ever throw a competition. She'd consider it an insult to both Garrus and herself, and she'd never deny either of them the ribbing she'd get to give him.

That said, the dialog is a lot better if you miss, I agree.

Since I feel the same way about it as you, what's the dialogue if you miss?

Modifié par sedrikhcain, 20 mars 2012 - 11:16 .

[termokanden]

I'm Garrus Vakarian, and this is my favorite spot on the Citadel.


... maybe not 100% accurate, but pretty much this.

[sedrikhcain]

termokanden wrote...

I'm Garrus Vakarian, and this is my favorite spot on the Citadel.


... maybe not 100% accurate, but pretty much this.

Thanks!

[Nerdage]

Sniper soldier nailed it. It was all in good fun, and besides Garrus sure as hell wasn't going to miss for her. Plus, it was kind of nice hearing her laugh afterwards... Rarely ever happens day-to-day.

I'd like to think my vanguard will genuinely miss, she'd be too busy suppressing the urge to biotic charge the damn thing after all.

Modifié par nerdage, 20 mars 2012 - 11:29 .

[blaidfiste]

Only on my Shep that romanced him. Garrus is cool and all but his cutscene skills with a sniper rifle doesn't translate to the actual game.

[ebevan91]

I forgot, when do I activate this? I'm replaying through the game and I'm about to do Sur'Kesh.

[Maniacm1]

nerdage wrote...

Sniper soldier nailed it. It was all in good fun, and besides Garrus sure as hell wasn't going to miss for her. Plus, it was kind of nice hearing her laugh afterwards... Rarely ever happens day-to-day.

I'd like to think my vanguard will genuinely miss, she'd be too busy suppressing the urge to biotic charge the damn thing after all.

I was thinking the exact same thing about my vanguard... MUST... NOT... BIOTIC CHARGE... OFF BRIDGE THING!

[Ryuu814]

...please
Flynn Shepard is a perfect marksman with a Sniper Rifle! Think of his reputation if he missed!

[Ferretinabun]

ebevan91 wrote...

I forgot, when do I activate this? I'm replaying through the game and I'm about to do Sur'Kesh.

I'm pretty sure it's one of the later citadel-squadmate encounters. So late. Possibily after resolving the Geth-Quarian conflict.

[TaskFDX]

Think its kinda cool so many missed on purpose...kudos to bioware for creating a character so many like we wanted him to feel good about himself.

He's a freaking fictional computer character...but yeah, i missed.

[SuperMedbh]

Missed. I love Garrus (As a buddy. Now, if we could transplant his mind into Kaiden's body...a bit squick, but I'd get over it)

[Ruined Requiem]

Missed on purpose and got heard an awesome new line for Garrus that made me laugh.

[Hassohappa]

iEscaflowne wrote...

If you didn't miss on purpose you are a terrible friend.

I can sort of understand holding back on your friends if you're playing something they are bad at or new at, but it seems absurdly condescending to be pulling punches in a shooting context with Garrus freaking Vakarian.

[Rune-Chan]

I thought it'd be insulting to him to miss on purpose. Like pretending he was a better shot.

To be honest I didn't like that scene though, after the Citadel assault you'd think some security teams to swoop in and arrest them for causing wide-spread panic.

[Bocks]

Garrus is my Shep's best friend, but Shepard can't back down, ever. When a competition's on, it's on. Garrus needs to know that no matter how good he is, Shepard is still a notch higher than him, and if he wants to catch up to him he has to try harder than ever.

Now if there was a scene after the ending where he and Shepard try that bottle thing again, I would miss.

[Melra]

Ofc I shot the target. If one wants to "win" they have to earn it. I don't want free wins. Losing to a friend feels better than winning a friend simply because they let you win.

[Shahadem]

I missed on my first playthrough.

On my second I am going to hit it (wink wink).

I can do anything better than you.

[Kosmiker]

I shooted the bottle.
Honesty and healthy competition above all.

[ardias89]

Missed, it was awesome to see his reaction!

[Bigdoser]

Quething wrote...


My vanguard took the shot. Sniper's not "her" weapon per se the way it is Garrus', sure, but she's an N7 marine. The idea that she can't hit a slow-moving skeet with a combat-ready Mantis (plenty of advanced WVI on that thing) is ludicrous. And she has way too much pride to ever throw a competition. She'd consider it an insult to both Garrus and herself, and she'd never deny either of them the ribbing she'd get to give him.

That said, the dialog is a lot better if you miss, I agree.

Yup same reason as my adept. My shep is n7 earthborn renegade so all she had is being a soldier she spent all of her time on the shooting range and in combat. Plus i used a sniper rifle in me2. Plus if you read the shadow broker file it says that shepard hinders garrus leader ship ability since shepard overshadows him. Thats the reason why I made him lead in the suicide mission in me2 and the reason why I did not miss the shot in me3. 

Modifié par Bigdoser, 29 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[DamonD7]

Missed on purpose. Would never, ever admit it to Garrus, of course.

[Kivutar]

Shot it first playthrough when he was my LI. Second time I had dumped him for Kaidan so I missed on purpose. :<

[LukeSkywhacker2]

 

Skirata129 wrote...

shot it. We're bros and all but participating in a competition without giving it your all is nothing more than a lie. I wish Bioware had made a minigame out of it.

Yeah, great thought if I may say so without being arrogant since I had that thought too. I actually suspected it would be a mini-game. I was disappointed it was so short. I wouldn't have missed intentionally if it had been a matter of actually faking the shot in a minigame instead of a dialogue option.

godlike13 wrote...

Missed on purpose. Garrus is the sniper, while my guy is a Vanguard. So i just thought it was right for Garrus to win in a snipe out. Though if it was a shotgun challenge....

 

Similar here. It made little sense for my vanguard to be better than Garrus with a sniper rifle, it would essentially feel like, "Shepard's better than anybody at anything." This said, I suppose my Shep could probably have hit that bottle with his Crusader shotgun with an additional accuracy mod or even with some other weapons. He always aimed and almost always went for headshots, even as a Vanguard. But Garrus is the best darn sniper ever and my Shepard had never used a Sniper Rifle since the beginning of the series unless maybe in ME1 for a mission or two (despite the penalty), which I don't remember. My Vanguard was a gun guy until the sad realisation came to him that he couldn't rely on guns any more, they slowed him down too much and reduced his effectiveness. This was his initial suspicion in ME2 when he simply had to assault a Scion with his fists simply to keep that bastard recoiling (Derelict Reaper mission), but it was reinforced when he ran out of ammo on Tuchanka with three Brutes charging him. Before, he was already the guy to headbutt Atlases, now in the final stages of the Reaper War, he's become some sort of military knight, generally not something normally thinkable to contemporary Alliance military trainers. Sniping is cool but it is far removed from Shep's current combat habits.

So he reassigned the powers for Power Bonus (both Assault Mastery and Charge) and maxed Nova.

Rehwyn wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

SidNitzerglobin wrote...

Novello wrote...

You people say things about letting him win being the right thing for a friend to do, but Id hate to win something because someone else let me.
As if my infiltrator shepard would ever miss ANYTHING.

Garrus knows this and my infiltrator Shep has nothing to prove to him.  In my mind Garrus would appreciate the gesture of sandbagging and why Shepard did so.

Not saying either choice is wrong, just comes down to how you're playing your Shepard.

Underlined...beautifully said Sid

My thoughts exactly. Garrus has been in enough real battles with my Paragon FemShep (non-romance) to know exactly how good a shot I am and that I've made far more difficult shots than a tossed bottle. This isn't a true competition, where I agree throwing the shot would be disrespectful, but just two friends shooting the bull and blowing off steam. Garrus likely knows I missed on purpose (or, if not, was unlucky), but recognizes it as a gesture of friendship and a tip of my hat where I let him claim the title of "Best Shot In The Galaxy" as a sign of comraderie and respect, not as a sign that I doubt his abilities.

 

Yeah, I tend to agree. I just imagined my Shepard as an old military fella who just wouldn't do it to his buddy, even if he knew the buddy knew. I also agree with the other poster who said Garrus would have missed it on purpose too. I'm not actually sure of that but it's possible.

Schneidend wrote...

Shot the hell out of that bottle for a couple reasons.

1) Elite space marine, Soldier class. Though he prefers shotguns and assault rifles, my Shepard is a crack shot with any weapon, just like Garrus.

2) Honest competition and rivalry between friends. Keep in mind, you don't beat Garrus even if you make the shot. You both hit two targets. It's a draw.

3) Garrus could tell. He is not an idiot. You think you can fool a professional sniper who has been scopin' and droppin' since he was 15?

 

Yeah, that last part got me thinking too. Faking a miss more or less plausibly would probably have required more skill than hitting it.

Also, good catch about the draw. It completely eluded me.

Either way, there are scrupples. I feel bad about faking it (though I don't think Garrus would be crushed if he found it and he probably knows anyway), I'd feel bad about hitting it. Maybe if they clearly declared a draw or something.

Anyway, missing the shot actually felt like a Renegade option instead of Paragon. Sorta like I wrote above about the old military warhorse thing, you just let your buddy win. Although not if Sniper is your military speciality (Infiltrator or a soldier that sniped much).

Finally, this isn't to say Garrus needs to look up to Shep for everything. In fact, Garrus "At Ease, General" Vakarian actually outranks Shep a big deal in military rank terms, no matter he was Officer Vakarian in C-Sec some three years ago. He isn't far from the Primarch in the Turian hierarchy chain, which is the reason he prefers not to discuss the subject. He was also a very capable Archangel. The difference is that he didn't have Prothean visions and maybe, just maybe, didn't have as hard a training regime as N7 (20 hours a day of platoon command in an actual combat zone for a week etc.) back in the Turian military but who knows anyway. Darn, I still missed it on purpose regardless.

Modifié par LukeSkywhacker2, 02 mai 2012 - 03:34 .

[MaaZeus]

Hassohappa wrote...

iEscaflowne wrote...

If you didn't miss on purpose you are a terrible friend.

I can sort of understand holding back on your friends if you're playing something they are bad at or new at, but it seems absurdly condescending to be pulling punches in a shooting context with Garrus freaking Vakarian.

This. Missing on purpose is in my eyes a huge sign of disrespect of him and his challenge, even if its just a friendly one. Who is Garrus, a child that needs patronising? Good lord people!

Modifié par MaaZeus, 02 mai 2012 - 03:47 .