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[CerberusSoldier]

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  




No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

[PiEman]

xsdob wrote...

gp.ulam wrote...

The most worrisome part of that interview is how he pretty much blatantly states that the very strongly-written characters Bioware has given us have been slightly molded (forging romantic relationships with them, for example) from what was originally intended because of an overwhelmingly positive fan reaction toward a different direction.

And on the same note, the very passionate community right under their own noses has elicited only silence from Bioware execs when they produce the greatest reaction yet for the series in voicing their displeasure for the structure and functionality of the endings.

That is, friends, hypocritical behavior at its apex. I understand all of the hard work that goes into creating such a massive trilogy, but to say one thing and VERY obviously do another is not something I can respect without further explanation.

It's been only 7 DAYS! For god's sake's give them time to fix the damn endings before you start shouting crucify him. Even broken steal took a few months for bethesda to make, so at least give them the benefit of 2 weeks before demanding blood be spilt.

It's not that, it's the fac that they've addressed everything else, but haven't said a word about this besides Casey's vague response here.

[The Executioner]

They completly mishandled the endings EMS and the MP attachment to them. It's very fine line i mean the strategy guide doesn't back up the game they have had retractions from game reviewers based on these faulty guides and screwed up endings they really do have to fix this and that DLC better be free. The whole thing is dishonest imo.

[Linus108]

Sounds like the guy thinks the ending was a brilliant stroke of genius. So profound, so delusional. 

Modifié par Linus108, 14 mars 2012 - 04:26 .

[gp.ulam]

xsdob wrote...

gp.ulam wrote...

The most worrisome part of that interview is how he pretty much blatantly states that the very strongly-written characters Bioware has given us have been slightly molded (forging romantic relationships with them, for example) from what was originally intended because of an overwhelmingly positive fan reaction toward a different direction.

And on the same note, the very passionate community right under their own noses has elicited only silence from Bioware execs when they produce the greatest reaction yet for the series in voicing their displeasure for the structure and functionality of the endings.

That is, friends, hypocritical behavior at its apex. I understand all of the hard work that goes into creating such a massive trilogy, but to say one thing and VERY obviously do another is not something I can respect without further explanation.

It's been only 7 DAYS! For god's sake's give them time to fix the damn endings before you start shouting crucify him. Even broken steal took a few months for bethesda to make, so at least give them the benefit of 2 weeks before demanding blood be spilt.

I never demanded blood, a different ending or any significant action in a week other than an acknowledgement of the situation. I work in the food industry, and if a mistake is made to a customer - whether intentional or not - addressing the issue as quickly as possible is what I was trained to do, and it's what I train others to do. I don't see the sense of biding time to give the paying fans a direct statement regarding their issue; you are right, demanding a new ending would be wholly unrealistic in a week, or two, even.

[DTKT]

That's a lot of words to not say anything.

PR talk.

[loungeshep]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  

Really?






No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

really?

.....REALLY?

OMG if people think they should take legal action over a video game ending then it's time to either get your priorities straight,or seek help, or something.


Cuz that is just....wow.


I miss the rational people who were unhappy with the ending.

[The Executioner]

I hope they don't make the calculation it's better to not admit a mistake then to just admit it do what they can to fix it and move on. I'm talking mostly about the MP being tied to EMS that should not have happened as far as rewriteing an ending i'm not sure they have to do that but they do have to fix the EMS fiasco.

[cipher86]

I don't get how he can still claim that "From Ashes" couldn't have been finished in time for cert. The leaked script has a TON of lines from Javik, most of which show up in the DLC.  The script is from November.

Modifié par cipher86, 14 mars 2012 - 04:33 .

[devSin]

Niddy' wrote...

Just 15 dollars to get the "true" endings!

EA's plan all along.

And you know what?

I'd pay. Ten times over, I'd pay.

But it's not going to happen.

At the very best, I reserve my hope that they can explain the bit with the ship and the thing at the end. I am not happy at all.

Modifié par devSin, 14 mars 2012 - 04:41 .

[Chaoswind]

**** I finally fell in one of those spoilers holes, while lurking in the forums, I managed to avoid catastrophic damage, but some parts of the ending are now spoiled

Anyways for all the people that feel cheated by Bioware, may I suggest you play older games that are just awesome? i recommend Chrono Trigger just imagine is a flash game and the graphs won't bother you at all.

[TheSnappyDude]

 www.youtube.com/watch after reading that I had to tweet Casey this video seriously I have been leaving the indvidual devs alone and just hitting EA and Biowares twitters  until then but that response turks me off

[Jayman2020]

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  

Really?






No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

really?

.....REALLY?

OMG if people think they should take legal action over a video game ending then it's time to either get your priorities straight,or seek help, or something.


Cuz that is just....wow.


I miss the rational people who were unhappy with the ending.

lmao of course legal action is excessive but at least acknowledge they do have a case. I dont agree with suing them but there are grounds for it.

Onto the softball interview though....are they fkn serious?? They ask soft questions with the exception of whats ur reaction to the players reaction which he totally glazed over!

I dont expect a new ending NOW but I do expect the god damned common courtesy to respond to an overwhelming amount of fans AND PAYING customers that have legitamite gripes with ur product.

I dont think thats asking alot.

[devSin]

The Executioner wrote...

I hope they don't make the calculation it's better to not admit a mistake then to just admit it do what they can to fix it and move on. I'm talking mostly about the MP being tied to EMS that should not have happened as far as rewriteing an ending i'm not sure they have to do that but they do have to fix the EMS fiasco.

This is the sort of thing I've come to no longer feel surprised about when I see it from BioWare.

But I also remember the BioWare of old, and I trust that when all is said and done, there will be a legitimate path to deep breath without requiring multiplayer or iPhone (or iPad 3!). They're still under there somewhere, even if it doesn't show through all that much anymore.

[Davnort]

**Casey Hudson even said 2 weeks ago that fans helped write the game. That’s part of the reason this push for a new ending even exists.*
part of this article
http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

Modifié par Davnort, 14 mars 2012 - 04:41 .

[streamlock]

"I didn’t want the game to be forgettable"

Awe man, I fell out almost fell out of my chair I laughed so hard.

-Thanks Mr. Hudson. I will never forget the 3 hours of my life trying to get my Shep passable because he would not import correctly.
-I will never forget the time I wasted actually installing Master of Orion 3
-I will never forget the $2.50 I spent renting Dues Ex II
-I will never forget the confusion of watching Highlander II
-I will never forget sitting at my best friends house on his Atari trying to figure out E.T. - the game

And no-I will never forget the RBG ending of ME3.

Good show-lmfao.

Modifié par streamlock, 14 mars 2012 - 04:42 .

[MalevoIence]

So... did they fire their writers when they made Mass Effect 3? Did the writers of the first two ask for more money and they got the writer from Babylon 5 to take over or something? Feels kinda that way

[gp.ulam]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

I have to say he's got nads to be able to stand by their decisions, and I have to respect that.

I will respect him, regardless of what he says, when he explains why.

[Euno17]

I can Hackett wrote...

 An interview with Casey Hudson asking about the endings http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/exclusive-mass-effect-3s-director-addresses-the-games-controversies/


I hope these arent the kind of responses we can expect from Bioware he basically avoids the question

Wow - that article reminds me a-lot of what the top people at DA said after DA 2 came out.

Basically he's making up a-lot of B.S. The difference betwenn ME and DA is this -  ME 3 is going to sell a hell of a lot more then DA 2 (probably already has) so the sad thing is - he's going to be say anything (and not mind fan's reaction) he wants as long as the EA shareholders are happy.

That's Bioware's main goal these days - making their EA shareholders happy. As long as their EA bosses are making bank on this franchise - that is all Bioware really cares for in the end.

[Edhriano]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  




No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

This,

It is not 'just' about the ending anymore.

[TheShadowWolf911]

whats really ironic is that guy suing them actually has a case, it technically was false advertisment.

also is the ending covered by that law in the UK, the one Total Biscuit talked about with faulty products (not just relating to games, but products in general, but uses video games as a example)?

[Nozybidaj]

xsdob wrote...

It's been only 7 DAYS! For god's sake's give them time to fix the damn endings before you start shouting crucify him. Even broken steal took a few months for bethesda to make, so at least give them the benefit of 2 weeks before demanding blood be spilt.

Difference is Bethesda wasn't already planning on selling you the new ending(s) prior to the game being released.

[davidshooter]

It amazes me how much these interviews are like political interviews.

Casey's answers to the ending question remind me of the politician who is 40 points behind in the polls the day before the election smiling into the camera confidently predicting victory - when all the while he knows, the interviewer knows and the public knows he's going to get hammered. So much needless theater.