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[Detha]

lol, I like how much credit he gives himself towards the controversy over the endings. That's like pooping, naked in a kiddy's pool and yelling really loudly at everyone passing by, happy you'll be remembered by everyone. Everyone discussing why you did that, questioning, making their own theories.

Pooping and yelling took very little effort and yet you'll be remembered.

Like, come on.

[PiEman]

What, did they think they were ENTITLED to not see a grown man drop a load in a kiddie pool?

[CerberusSoldier]

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  

Really?






No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

really?

.....REALLY?

OMG if people think they should take legal action over a video game ending then it's time to either get your priorities straight,or seek help, or something.


Cuz that is just....wow.


I miss the rational people who were unhappy with the ending.

   



I disagree if they did say one thing in thelead up to this game being released and said it was going to be in the game or they would not have a Lost style ending . Then yeah there may be a case of false advertising . EA runs a business and a business has to be honest with  what a product includes. Games are products .

[Detha]

PiEman wrote...

What, did they think they were ENTITLED to not see a grown man drop a load in a kiddie pool?

Haha

Modifié par Detha, 14 mars 2012 - 05:31 .

[Zalbik]

Just when I was starting to calm down, then I read that BS on the link from Bioware. Bioware, snap out of it...the ending sucked and it will NOT be remembered. The only memory that will remain years from now is that the ME3 ending sucked.

The kitten sacrifices begin again, its go time  

[OhManTFE]

I've been a long-time player of Bioware games since KotoR, but this is the first time I've posted on the forums. And I am posting because I was so insanely disappointed with the ending of ME3.

How do the writers who crafted such a masterpiece also manage to mangle it so badly in the last 15 min? I smell corporate bs...

The game is so good, and my emotional investment so deep, that I would actually be willing to pay for DLC just to fix the god damn ending. It's sad and unjust... but it is the truth, that's how desperate I am for a proper resolution to what should have been one of the best sci-fi ARPGs in recent history...

[gp.ulam]

OhManTFE wrote...

I've been a long-time player of Bioware games since KotoR, but this is the first time I've posted on the forums. And I am posting because I was so insanely disappointed with the ending of ME3.

How do the writers who crafted such a masterpiece also manage to mangle it so badly in the last 15 min? I smell corporate bs...

The game is so good, and my emotional investment so deep, that I would actually be willing to pay for DLC just to fix the god damn ending. It's sad and unjust... but it is the truth, that's how desperate I am for a proper resolution to what should have been one of the best sci-fi ARPGs in recent history...

I believe posters like us are pretty common now; that's exactly why I joined, though I hadn't beaten it yet and I was really curious to visit the non-spoilers section of this forum to see what the big deal was. I think it's funny that the Bioware mantra of "Your choices matter!" only applied to ME2.

[Viyu]

Casey Hudson, need I remind you that you said:

Casey Hudson: It's not so much that there is a fixed set of alternative endings, but all of your choices really determine how things end up in the universe. So, how you approach the end-game, for every player, you're going to have a different set of results in terms of who is alive and who is dead, and which civilisations survived and which ones were wiped out.There is a huge set of consequences that start stacking up as you approach the end-game. And even in terms of the ending itself, it continues to break down to some very large decisions. So it's not like a classic game ending where everything is linear and you make a choice between a few things - it really does layer in many, many different choices, up to the final moments, where it's going to be different for everyone who plays it.

[BuffPhantoms]

They arne't going to change it. Stop wasting your time.

[loungeshep]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  

Really?






No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

really?

.....REALLY?

OMG if people think they should take legal action over a video game ending then it's time to either get your priorities straight,or seek help, or something.


Cuz that is just....wow.


I miss the rational people who were unhappy with the ending.

   



I disagree if they did say one thing in thelead up to this game being released and said it was going to be in the game or they would not have a Lost style ending . Then yeah there may be a case of false advertising . EA runs a business and a business has to be honest with  what a product includes. Games are products .

I'm sorry but no, a fan saying their going to take legal action because that one fan didn't get the ending his obese hide wanted is entitlement.

There's a difference between taking polls and making petitions and even politely and civilly emailing Bioware, and taking legal action.

And taking legal action lacks all kinds of common sense.

[PiEman]

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  

Really?






No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

really?

.....REALLY?

OMG if people think they should take legal action over a video game ending then it's time to either get your priorities straight,or seek help, or something.


Cuz that is just....wow.


I miss the rational people who were unhappy with the ending.

   



I disagree if they did say one thing in thelead up to this game being released and said it was going to be in the game or they would not have a Lost style ending . Then yeah there may be a case of false advertising . EA runs a business and a business has to be honest with  what a product includes. Games are products .

I'm sorry but no, a fan saying their going to take legal action because that one fan didn't get the ending his obese hide wanted is entitlement.

There's a difference between taking polls and making petitions and even politely and civilly emailing Bioware, and taking legal action.

And taking legal action lacks all kinds of common sense.

No, it's literally thousands of fans (just on this site) claiming that Bioware lied about delivering someting they had previously advertised.

[durasteel]

 Everyone remembers Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. They remember the end, specifically, and they remember it because it was thrown together at the last minute, and detracted from the otherwise compelling story told by that game.

The end of KotOR2 was better than the end of Mass Effect 3.

Traya, at the end of KotOR2, provides a run-down on events in the galaxy, including Force prophecies, to tie up many of the loose threads and provide closure. As disjointed as the Malachor V content was, you got to beat the antagonist and "win." 

Sure, it's great to be remembered, but do you want to be remembered among the games which had the most potential wasted by a cobbled-together-at-the-last-minute nonsensical ending? I would rather be remembered as being responsive to the community, and willing to admit and correct errors.

[loungeshep]

PiEman wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  

Really?






No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

really?

.....REALLY?

OMG if people think they should take legal action over a video game ending then it's time to either get your priorities straight,or seek help, or something.


Cuz that is just....wow.


I miss the rational people who were unhappy with the ending.

   



I disagree if they did say one thing in thelead up to this game being released and said it was going to be in the game or they would not have a Lost style ending . Then yeah there may be a case of false advertising . EA runs a business and a business has to be honest with  what a product includes. Games are products .

I'm sorry but no, a fan saying their going to take legal action because that one fan didn't get the ending his obese hide wanted is entitlement.

There's a difference between taking polls and making petitions and even politely and civilly emailing Bioware, and taking legal action.

And taking legal action lacks all kinds of common sense.

No, it's literally thousands of fans (just on this site) claiming that Bioware lied about delivering someting they had previously advertised.

I said 'A' as a way of making a point, I'm aware of there being more than one fan.

I see the problem, you 'people' are too literal.

[PiEman]

loungeshep wrote...

PiEman wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  

Really?






No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

really?

.....REALLY?

OMG if people think they should take legal action over a video game ending then it's time to either get your priorities straight,or seek help, or something.


Cuz that is just....wow.


I miss the rational people who were unhappy with the ending.

   



I disagree if they did say one thing in thelead up to this game being released and said it was going to be in the game or they would not have a Lost style ending . Then yeah there may be a case of false advertising . EA runs a business and a business has to be honest with  what a product includes. Games are products .

I'm sorry but no, a fan saying their going to take legal action because that one fan didn't get the ending his obese hide wanted is entitlement.

There's a difference between taking polls and making petitions and even politely and civilly emailing Bioware, and taking legal action.

And taking legal action lacks all kinds of common sense.

No, it's literally thousands of fans (just on this site) claiming that Bioware lied about delivering someting they had previously advertised.

I said 'A' as a way of making a point, I'm aware of there being more than one fan.

I see the problem, you 'people' are too literal.

Did you even read the rest of my post?

[Toshir]

durasteel wrote...

 Everyone remembers Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. They remember the end, specifically, and they remember it because it was thrown together at the last minute, and detracted from the otherwise compelling story told by that game.

The end of KotOR2 was better than the end of Mass Effect 3.

Traya, at the end of KotOR2, provides a run-down on events in the galaxy, including Force prophecies, to tie up many of the loose threads and provide closure. As disjointed as the Malachor V content was, you got to beat the antagonist and "win." 

Sure, it's great to be remembered, but do you want to be remembered among the games which had the most potential wasted by a cobbled-together-at-the-last-minute nonsensical ending? I would rather be remembered as being responsive to the community, and willing to admit and correct errors.

KOTOR2 was such an underrated game. The ending was meh but it was a fckton better than this.

[loungeshep]

PiEman wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

PiEman wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  

Really?






No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

really?

.....REALLY?

OMG if people think they should take legal action over a video game ending then it's time to either get your priorities straight,or seek help, or something.


Cuz that is just....wow.


I miss the rational people who were unhappy with the ending.

   



I disagree if they did say one thing in thelead up to this game being released and said it was going to be in the game or they would not have a Lost style ending . Then yeah there may be a case of false advertising . EA runs a business and a business has to be honest with  what a product includes. Games are products .

I'm sorry but no, a fan saying their going to take legal action because that one fan didn't get the ending his obese hide wanted is entitlement.

There's a difference between taking polls and making petitions and even politely and civilly emailing Bioware, and taking legal action.

And taking legal action lacks all kinds of common sense.

No, it's literally thousands of fans (just on this site) claiming that Bioware lied about delivering someting they had previously advertised.

I said 'A' as a way of making a point, I'm aware of there being more than one fan.

I see the problem, you 'people' are too literal.

Did you even read the rest of my post?

Obviously. But I will let you choose three responses. And those three responses all have three variations. 

And they all have the same outcome.

[PiEman]

loungeshep wrote...

PiEman wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

PiEman wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

  

Really?






No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

really?

.....REALLY?

OMG if people think they should take legal action over a video game ending then it's time to either get your priorities straight,or seek help, or something.


Cuz that is just....wow.


I miss the rational people who were unhappy with the ending.

   



I disagree if they did say one thing in thelead up to this game being released and said it was going to be in the game or they would not have a Lost style ending . Then yeah there may be a case of false advertising . EA runs a business and a business has to be honest with  what a product includes. Games are products .

I'm sorry but no, a fan saying their going to take legal action because that one fan didn't get the ending his obese hide wanted is entitlement.

There's a difference between taking polls and making petitions and even politely and civilly emailing Bioware, and taking legal action.

And taking legal action lacks all kinds of common sense.

No, it's literally thousands of fans (just on this site) claiming that Bioware lied about delivering someting they had previously advertised.

I said 'A' as a way of making a point, I'm aware of there being more than one fan.

I see the problem, you 'people' are too literal.

Did you even read the rest of my post?

Obviously. But I will let you choose three responses. And those three responses all have three variations. 

And they all have the same outcome.

But what about my decisions in the previous installments of this quote pyramid?

[gp.ulam]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

You don't have to agree with him or approve of his stance to respect him. I definitely disagree with aspects of it, but I still respect him as an individual. Not saying you don't or anything. I doubt we'll get a solid answer until the ruckus has died down.

I somehow doubt we'll get a solid answer either way, I would just like to see his unfiltered thoughts on the matter. If his true response was shown in the above interview, I don't think I can justify following him and his future endeavors with EA knowing how this one turned out. It's not about the endings for me, honestly, it's about the lies of omission and subsequent lack of acknowledging what many well-paying customers feel to be an issue in regards to the multiplayer being such a large asset to the single player campaign when it was previously downplayed in favor of hyping the fact that, allegedly, it wouldn't be necessary to get what you wanted out of single player. A lot of people aren't getting what they wanted out of a single player series because of the several well-documented events surrounding the third game; therein lies my problem with Casey.

[Hoki]

 vote with your wallet, money is the bottom line

if you buy the dlc, if you buy origin points, if you buy ea games, you're supporting this kind of behavior you're reading about

you can sort of reverse the current situation by thinking of ea studios as lab rats pressing a button that gives them cheese or shocks them. if you don't want to press a certain button, don't give them cheese, just shock them.

[PiEman]

Toshir wrote...

durasteel wrote...

 Everyone remembers Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. They remember the end, specifically, and they remember it because it was thrown together at the last minute, and detracted from the otherwise compelling story told by that game.

The end of KotOR2 was better than the end of Mass Effect 3.

Traya, at the end of KotOR2, provides a run-down on events in the galaxy, including Force prophecies, to tie up many of the loose threads and provide closure. As disjointed as the Malachor V content was, you got to beat the antagonist and "win." 

Sure, it's great to be remembered, but do you want to be remembered among the games which had the most potential wasted by a cobbled-together-at-the-last-minute nonsensical ending? I would rather be remembered as being responsive to the community, and willing to admit and correct errors.

KOTOR2 was such an underrated game. The ending was meh but it was a fckton better than this.

Like I've said before, if LucasArts had given them enough time instead of rushing it onto shelves for Christmas, the ending (and the entire planet they had to leave out...) would've been amazing too.

[EG NeoMorph]

Casey Hudson obviously loves Stephen King... Anyone remember that quote in Alan Wake that says something about the most memorable endings are the ones that don't explain everything.

In my mind all they do is pee us off. This is Matrix Revolutions all over again as I have said several times now.

[loungeshep]

[quote]PiEman wrote...

[quote]loungeshep wrote...

[quote]PiEman wrote...

[quote]loungeshep wrote...

[quote]PiEman wrote...

[quote]loungeshep wrote...

[quote]CerberusSoldier wrote...

[quote]loungeshep wrote...

[quote]CerberusSoldier wrote...

[quote]loungeshep wrote...

[quote]Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok I just finished the games the endings werent great but no where near as bad as i expected reading reaction here? Maybe were overreacting a little bit because its something were so passionate about?[/quote]

Yes.

Legal action is as crazy as its gotten so far.

So. Far.

[/quote]  

Really?






No its not crazy . If a company advertises a game and claims that players choices will matter . When the game comes out and it does take player choice serious or it does not matter . Then yeah there might be a legal issue there . and they have made statements saying oh we won't being doing any lost style endings for the end of this game . yeah I can see a case being made

[/quote]

really?

.....REALLY?

OMG if people think they should take legal action over a video game ending then it's time to either get your priorities straight,or seek help, or something.


Cuz that is just....wow.


I miss the rational people who were unhappy with the ending.
[/quote]   



I disagree if they did say one thing in thelead up to this game being released and said it was going to be in the game or they would not have a Lost style ending . Then yeah there may be a case of false advertising . EA runs a business and a business has to be honest with  what a product includes. Games are products .

[/quote]

I'm sorry but no, a fan saying their going to take legal action because that one fan didn't get the ending his obese hide wanted is entitlement.

There's a difference between taking polls and making petitions and even politely and civilly emailing Bioware, and taking legal action.

And taking legal action lacks all kinds of common sense.
[/quote]

No, it's literally thousands of fans (just on this site) claiming that Bioware lied about delivering someting they had previously advertised.

[/quote]

I said 'A' as a way of making a point, I'm aware of there being more than one fan.

I see the problem, you 'people' are too literal.

[/quote]

Did you even read the rest of my post?

[/quote]

Obviously. But I will let you choose three responses. And those three responses all have three variations. 

And they all have the same outcome.

[/quote]

But what about my decisions in the previous installments of this quote pyramid?

[/quote]

Oh they matter.

The outcome is the same though.

[Kanner]

Oh gosh, it IS incredibly reminiscent of KOTOR2.

Bioware has turned into Obsidian. >.<

[mybudgee]

You guys, be realistic. THEY ARE NOT 'FIXING' THE ENDINGS!
Look how smarmy hudson is in this interview! It is not going to happen...deal with it
<_<

Modifié par mybudgee, 14 mars 2012 - 06:04 .